Questions & Mysteries What will change once it's revealed that Kizaru fed Luffy?

#41
Yeah, that's why it was Kizaru that saved Luffy's ass.
Yeah Let's give Kizaru the delivery award

What does that have to do with the fact Luffy was superior in their fight by being the one who sent kozaru down while kizaru didn't do anything to luff?

This is Luffy without (fs, adcoa and adcoc) who used only 1 named move and his goal wasn't even to beat Kizaru
 
#42
It is impressive Kizaru was able to take WSG to his head and probably tanked it. Makes him more impressive in that regard. Kizaru may indeed out last G5 luffy even if he uses adv coc.
Not to mention kizaru wasn't basically using anything.

Yeah Let's give Kizaru the delivery award

What does that have to do with the fact Luffy was superior in their fight by being the one who sent kozaru down while kizaru didn't do anything to luff?

This is Luffy without (fs, adcoa and adcoc) who used only 1 named move and his goal wasn't even to beat Kizaru
Because it's not.

Cope about advCoA and FS aside, Luffy had all the reasons to defeat Kizaru since he almost killed Usopp and Vegapunk. On the other hand, Kizaru, as this chapter proves even fruther since he even saved him, was going super easy basically not even using named moves.
And still managed to outlive G5 and had to save him just after.

"kizaru didn't do anuthing", lol, Kizaru even saved Luffy. Saved him. This should tell enough of what he wanted to do.
 

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#44
I can imagine Kizaru being an enemy to the SHs anymore especially when he finds out Vegapunk is still alive(kinda).
He likely already knows, Vegapunk and Kizaru where best of friends it wouldn't surprise me if knew all about everything vegapunk had going on behind the scenes and knew about the secret message, and the multiple bodies his clones have. But he'll likely be in a similar situation to Smoker, Tashigi, Fujitora

Not necessarily enemies but definitely not friends, he'll still do his job and go after Luffy and the strawhats because that's his job
 
#45
Not to mention kizaru wasn't basically using anything.



Because it's not.

Cope about advCoA and FS aside, Luffy had all the reasons to defeat Kizaru since he almost killed Usopp and Vegapunk. On the other hand, Kizaru, as this chapter proves even fruther since he even saved him, was going super easy basically not even using named moves.
And still managed to outlive G5 and had to save him just after.

"kizaru didn't do anuthing", lol, Kizaru even saved Luffy. Saved him. This should tell enough of what he wanted to do.
Luffy " my goal is just to stall you"
You "luffy had all reasons to best Kizaru

Let Kizaru damage g4 and actually dominate g5 or defeat it then we can talk

Or else let's give him Doffy award for "outlasting " g5 as if he did something to G5

Prove to us Luffy used adcoa and fs Vs Kizaru ?
Bar wsg, prove to use he was using those abilties ?
 
#46
Luffy " my goal is just to stall you"
You "luffy had all reasons to best Kizaru
Sure, Luffy's goal was to use a time-limit ability, stall Kizaru (without beating him), losing all his powers and the an unbeaten Kizaru could kill Vegapunk with ease.That's the plan?

What do you want me to say, that it's delusional?

Let Kizaru damage g4 and actually dominate g5 or defeat it then we can talk
Kizaru demolished G4 and stalled G5 without even going all out or even be serious, so.

Prove to us Luffy used adcoa and fs Vs Kizaru ?
Bar wsg, prove to use he was using those abilties ?
Bacause Kizaru commented about G4 and Kaido, blitzed him and there is no visuals whatsoever for advCoA and FS?
But yeah, Luffy was using basic CoA and not only that: he had just been blitzed but even if he had FS, he decided not ot use it. Here too, what can I say?

BTW, Luffy was going serious with haki from the start:

 
#56
Don’t really like the implications this has for Kizaru’s character tbh. Suspected as much that it could have been him at the time coz I thought he was gonna go the Aokiji route and actually defy orders & save Vegapunk but seeing how the arc ended with him killing Vegapunk, he just comes across as wishy washy and someone that wasn’t brave enough to stick to his convictions which isn’t really a good look tbh.

Not sure what Oda’s smoking when he writes this shit at times. Feel like I’m throwing him a bone here, but if the intent here was to make Kizaru come across as exactly that (.i.e. wishy/washy and a coward that isn’t able to stick to his convictions to somewhat contrast Aokiji and Akainu then fair enuff but feel like it could’ve been written much better. Especially when you consider how he nonchalantly killed Vegapunk 💀.

I personally don’t dislike Kizaru (neutral on his character) & was actually looking forward to getting to know more about him and how he was gonna deal with the conflict on Egghead but it ended up being pretty disappointing tbh.
 

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#59
Don’t really like the implications this has for Kizaru’s character tbh. Suspected as much that it could have been him at the time coz I thought he was gonna go the Aokiji route and actually defy orders & save Vegapunk but seeing how the arc ended with him killing Vegapunk, he just comes across as wishy washy and someone that wasn’t brave enough to stick to his convictions which isn’t really a good look tbh.

Not sure what Oda’s smoking when he writes this shit at times. Feel like I’m throwing him a bone here, but if the intent here was to make Kizaru come across as exactly that (.i.e. wishy/washy and a coward that isn’t able to stick to his convictions to somewhat contrast Aokiji and Akainu then fair enuff but feel like it could’ve been written much better. Especially when you consider how he nonchalantly killed Vegapunk 💀.

I personally don’t dislike Kizaru (neutral on his character) & was actually looking forward to getting to know more about him and how he was gonna deal with the conflict on Egghead but it ended up being pretty disappointing tbh.
He did it in the most unclear way, it's fitting for Kizaru. He both followed orders, and actively went against them at the same time. He couldn't clearly revolt, so he decided to sandbag as much as possible instead.
 
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