Versus Battle Harry Potter: Grindelwald vs Voldemort
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Yeah I like the guy a lot. In Bruges is a wonderful movie haha
I think @Buusatan94 can be interested about the duel here
I think @Buusatan94 can be interested about the duel here
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Ya i think he might win oscar someday . He plays complex roles . Pretty sure he took this up because of rowling and david yates saw his performance.
I agree depp is misfit. They should have cast an east europeon actor they would have decenrlt portryal .
Btw hell be villain in new batman movie as a penguin .
I agree depp is misfit. They should have cast an east europeon actor they would have decenrlt portryal .
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Btw hell be villain in new batman movie as a penguin .
Not totally in ranking but these are the most powerfull wizards/witches:
Merlin
Godric Gryffidor
Salazar Slytherin
Rowena Ravenclaw
Helga Hufflepuff
Dumbledore
Grindelwald
Voldemort
Nicholas Flamel
Aurelius Dumbledore
I don´t know if I forget soemone but these are most like the most powerful wizards ever.
In terms of ranking I can only judge the people from the list under:
1. Dumbledore
2. Grindelwald/Voldemort
3. Voldemort/Grindelwald
4. Aurelius Dumbledore
5. Nicholas Flamel
So I don´t really know how to put the founders into this list, most like Helga and Rowena beeing under the top three, while Salazar Slytherin and Godric Gryffidor play in the same stage as Dumbledore/Voldemort and Grindelwald, probably less stronger or even above.
The number one off all wizard is most like Merlin, he was hyped up manytimes in the books even of Dumbledore himself, also it would fit to the orginal story with Merlin beeing the strongest wizard ever.
I take Merlin above the others...
Merlin
Godric Gryffidor
Salazar Slytherin
Rowena Ravenclaw
Helga Hufflepuff
Dumbledore
Grindelwald
Voldemort
Nicholas Flamel
Aurelius Dumbledore
I don´t know if I forget soemone but these are most like the most powerful wizards ever.
In terms of ranking I can only judge the people from the list under:
1. Dumbledore
2. Grindelwald/Voldemort
3. Voldemort/Grindelwald
4. Aurelius Dumbledore
5. Nicholas Flamel
So I don´t really know how to put the founders into this list, most like Helga and Rowena beeing under the top three, while Salazar Slytherin and Godric Gryffidor play in the same stage as Dumbledore/Voldemort and Grindelwald, probably less stronger or even above.
The number one off all wizard is most like Merlin, he was hyped up manytimes in the books even of Dumbledore himself, also it would fit to the orginal story with Merlin beeing the strongest wizard ever.
I take Merlin above the others...
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I respectfully disagree with this.
The entire 3 way duel between Albus, Aberforth, and Grindlewald was because Grindwald lost his temper. So if you're going to say that being prompt to anger is a short coming for Voldemort, then it's a shortcoming for Grindlewald as well.
Though I don't see how Voldemort's anger is a shortcoming, in all honesty it seems to enhance his strength. Voldemort went from equally dueling with Slughorn, McGonagal, and Kingsley while calm (and while using a wand that wouldn't recognize him as it's master therefore putting him at a disadvantage I might add), to one shotting all three of them at the same time the second his got angry his sidechick Bellatrix died. Anger seems like a powerup to the Dark Lord, not a hindrance.
So if Voldemort has anger issues, then Mr. "lets bring a disabled girl on our boys trip for world conquest omg this should be fun T_T" Grindlewald has just as many anger issues.
The only time I can recall Voldemort talking a lot during a fight was in Goblet of Fire when he got his body back. And that was a special occasion. He got his body back for the first time in 13 years and wanted to put on a show for his Death Eaters so that nobody would ever question his strength again, it was a special and unique occasion, he doesn't really monologue in fights. He barely spoke to Harry or Dumbledore before attempting to murder them both in the Ministry, said literally nothing when he tried killing Harry during the 7 Potter chase at the beginning of the last book, said one sentence to Harry before attempting to murder him in the Forbidden Forest, and again engaged in a short convo with Harry before their last duel because Harry wouldn't stfu and stop making low IQ jabs. Voldemort is not much of a talker in fights.
As for underestimating people, yes he does underestimate people. But he only underestimates people who are way below him. He underestimated baby Harry and house elves on two occasions because he considered himself so superior to them. That does not mean he is going to underestimate Grindlewald. Voldemort is well aware of who Grindlewald is and he is well aware of Grindlewald's prowess, he was a student at Hogwarts while Dumbledore was off-paneling Grindlewald with low difficult and deporting him to Nurmengard after all, there is no reason to assume Voldemort would ever underestimate Grindlewald. When has Voldemort ever underestimated a gifted wizard? The fact that he ignored Wormtail's request to act during the Qudditch World Cup and instead choose to delay his plans to get Harry by several months shows that Voldemort doesn't underestimate wizards. Just babies and inferior subhumans like house elves.
I'll elaborate why Voldemort destroys Grindlewald in another post, that's enough tl;drs for one day. To be continued.
The entire 3 way duel between Albus, Aberforth, and Grindlewald was because Grindwald lost his temper. So if you're going to say that being prompt to anger is a short coming for Voldemort, then it's a shortcoming for Grindlewald as well.
Though I don't see how Voldemort's anger is a shortcoming, in all honesty it seems to enhance his strength. Voldemort went from equally dueling with Slughorn, McGonagal, and Kingsley while calm (and while using a wand that wouldn't recognize him as it's master therefore putting him at a disadvantage I might add), to one shotting all three of them at the same time the second his got angry his sidechick Bellatrix died. Anger seems like a powerup to the Dark Lord, not a hindrance.
So if Voldemort has anger issues, then Mr. "lets bring a disabled girl on our boys trip for world conquest omg this should be fun T_T" Grindlewald has just as many anger issues.
The only time I can recall Voldemort talking a lot during a fight was in Goblet of Fire when he got his body back. And that was a special occasion. He got his body back for the first time in 13 years and wanted to put on a show for his Death Eaters so that nobody would ever question his strength again, it was a special and unique occasion, he doesn't really monologue in fights. He barely spoke to Harry or Dumbledore before attempting to murder them both in the Ministry, said literally nothing when he tried killing Harry during the 7 Potter chase at the beginning of the last book, said one sentence to Harry before attempting to murder him in the Forbidden Forest, and again engaged in a short convo with Harry before their last duel because Harry wouldn't stfu and stop making low IQ jabs. Voldemort is not much of a talker in fights.
As for underestimating people, yes he does underestimate people. But he only underestimates people who are way below him. He underestimated baby Harry and house elves on two occasions because he considered himself so superior to them. That does not mean he is going to underestimate Grindlewald. Voldemort is well aware of who Grindlewald is and he is well aware of Grindlewald's prowess, he was a student at Hogwarts while Dumbledore was off-paneling Grindlewald with low difficult and deporting him to Nurmengard after all, there is no reason to assume Voldemort would ever underestimate Grindlewald. When has Voldemort ever underestimated a gifted wizard? The fact that he ignored Wormtail's request to act during the Qudditch World Cup and instead choose to delay his plans to get Harry by several months shows that Voldemort doesn't underestimate wizards. Just babies and inferior subhumans like house elves.
I'll elaborate why Voldemort destroys Grindlewald in another post, that's enough tl;drs for one day. To be continued.
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As I said in spoiler room.
With the Horkrux, Voldi is pretty op but also he spend his whole life to perform that spell, that is his forte, he not have the knowledge about many other different spells like Grindelwald has. Grindelwald is more skilled, has more useful skills to take down Voldi.
And the portrayal also is clear for me, Voldi got humiliated by old Dumbledore and based on @Hedfi it seems like the elderwand not give really a big boost since the wand was from the begin for Harry and not someone else.
So Grindelwald with a wand who was not supposed to be his, fight equal against prime Dumbledore, push him to extrem high diff, a battle who shock whole europa, everyone was shocked because of this insane battle.
Old Dumbledore weaker then his prime Humiliated Voldi...
Voldi special power is his horkrux, Grindelwald has pretty much more spells and skills.
I would bet my money on Grindelwald.
With the Horkrux, Voldi is pretty op but also he spend his whole life to perform that spell, that is his forte, he not have the knowledge about many other different spells like Grindelwald has. Grindelwald is more skilled, has more useful skills to take down Voldi.
And the portrayal also is clear for me, Voldi got humiliated by old Dumbledore and based on @Hedfi it seems like the elderwand not give really a big boost since the wand was from the begin for Harry and not someone else.
So Grindelwald with a wand who was not supposed to be his, fight equal against prime Dumbledore, push him to extrem high diff, a battle who shock whole europa, everyone was shocked because of this insane battle.
Old Dumbledore weaker then his prime Humiliated Voldi...
Voldi special power is his horkrux, Grindelwald has pretty much more spells and skills.
I would bet my money on Grindelwald.
I don’t buy that
We clearly saw Dumby and Grindy using it and they didn’t say anything about it being de powered or having 0 effects. I don’t think Grindy would have used it that much if it was just a normal wand.
And all of that history and shit for a wand that doesn’t work is lame as hell.
Even Dumby said he was a shade more skillful even if that Grindy had the elder wand so that wand had some effects / boost.
With Fumseck and the Elder Wand.
Dumby is mad strong so give him both and he will neg anyone.
Give Nagini and the elder wand to Voldy and his normal wand to Dumby and let’s see how it goes.
And Dumby is not Grindy. Dumbledore > Grindelwald in power and skills.
Voldemort went deep in dark magic really deep. And he is a born genius.
He knows spells, lots of spells. But yeah his fav is killing curse.
I bet on the one who was called the darkest wizard of all time
We clearly saw Dumby and Grindy using it and they didn’t say anything about it being de powered or having 0 effects. I don’t think Grindy would have used it that much if it was just a normal wand.
And all of that history and shit for a wand that doesn’t work is lame as hell.
Even Dumby said he was a shade more skillful even if that Grindy had the elder wand so that wand had some effects / boost.
With Fumseck and the Elder Wand.
Dumby is mad strong so give him both and he will neg anyone.
Give Nagini and the elder wand to Voldy and his normal wand to Dumby and let’s see how it goes.
And Dumby is not Grindy. Dumbledore > Grindelwald in power and skills.
Voldemort went deep in dark magic really deep. And he is a born genius.
He knows spells, lots of spells. But yeah his fav is killing curse.
I bet on the one who was called the darkest wizard of all time
The Elder Wand is more like picky wand that choses the stronger wizard. It doesnt necessarily empower your magic spells. It's more like a status thing unless you're Harry Potter.
Take for example wizard A is the current wielder of the Elder Wand. When he faces a stronger Wizard B the wand will automatically switches allengences and becomes Wizard B's Wand. At least this is what I have seen on some HP video contents on Youtube. That's why the wielder of the Elder Wand always dies when he cases a to a stronger Wizard.
Take for example wizard A is the current wielder of the Elder Wand. When he faces a stronger Wizard B the wand will automatically switches allengences and becomes Wizard B's Wand. At least this is what I have seen on some HP video contents on Youtube. That's why the wielder of the Elder Wand always dies when he cases a to a stronger Wizard.
That’s not really what is said in the books. The wand indeed makes allegiance to the strongest but because that guy proved to be the strongest : by beating the former owner or disarming him.
Harry only became master because he disarmed Draco. The same Draco who was master by disarming Dumby. I don’t think Harry or Draco were stronger wizard that Dumby.
Some people lost the wand when they were killed in their sleep etc
Harry only became master because he disarmed Draco. The same Draco who was master by disarming Dumby. I don’t think Harry or Draco were stronger wizard that Dumby.
Some people lost the wand when they were killed in their sleep etc
Yeah going by the original HP books it's like how you said. But the writer, forget her name ,always makes additional comments about her books. As far as I remember that's how she explained how the Elder Wand works(I'm talking about the additional info) which doesn't necessarily contradicts her books but adds more specific details about it.
My memory may be wrong though, so look it up yourself if you want to be extra sure.
My memory may be wrong though, so look it up yourself if you want to be extra sure.
