Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

You know the answer to that question Logiko.

If I follow this thread line of thinking, the probability for you to be mad because I say that it is ableist thinking is high while the probability for you to take the time to understand my point without being mad adn without thinking that I'm trying to attack you personnally is low.

But I want to think that people are smarter than this. So... will you be mad or will you listen to what I have to say ?

Not really about argumentation, but more about your condescending behaviour and messianic complex.

Yup, that doesn't change the effect.

Not getting into that crap again. I pass. If you can't debate without made up terms than you don't know what the fuck you are talking about

I take your refusal to debate as a proof you are afraid of the topic.

I don't make the rules of political conflict.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Ask ChatGPT.

Is that right?


🌐 Before the Shift (19th–early 20th century)

• Democrats: Dominated the South, defended segregation, supported Jim Crow laws, and opposed civil rights for Black Americans.
• Republicans: Party of Lincoln and abolition, strong in the North, associated with Reconstruction and protecting Black voting rights (at least in the 19th century).

⚡ The Shift in Motion

1. New Deal Era (1930s–1940s):
   • Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Democratic New Deal coalition attracted working-class voters, immigrants, and some Black Americans (especially in the North) by offering economic relief and jobs.
   • But Southern Democrats (“Dixiecrats”) still clung to segregation.
2. Civil Rights Era (1940s–1960s):
   • Presidents like Harry Truman (desegregated the military in 1948) and John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (Civil Rights Act of 1964, Voting Rights Act of 1965) tied the Democratic Party to civil rights.
   • Many white Southern Democrats opposed this and began drifting away.
3. Southern Strategy (1960s–1980s):
   • Republicans, starting with Richard Nixon, actively courted disaffected white Southern conservatives using states’ rights rhetoric, law-and-order themes, and opposition to busing/desegregation.
   • Over time, the South shifted from a Democratic stronghold to a Republican one.

✅ After the Shift (late 20th century → today)

• Democrats: Became the party of civil rights, racial minorities, urban voters, liberals, and progressives.
• Republicans: Became dominant in the South, aligned with white conservatives, evangelical Christians, and free-market policies.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

If I follow this thread line of thinking, the probability for you to be mad because I say that it is ableist thinking is high while the probability for you to take the time to understand my point without being mad adn without thinking that I'm trying to attack you personnally is low.

But I want to think that people are smarter than this. So... will you be mad or will you listen to what I have to say ?



Yup, that doesn't change the effect.



I take your refusal to debate as a proof you are afraid of the topic.

I don't make the rules of political conflict.

And I want to think that you are smarter than you lead on. We can't always get what we want, so it is what it is at the end of the day.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

I take your refusal to debate as a proof you are afraid of the topic.

I don't make the rules of political conflict.

My refusal is to go around on useless term like that. I don't have time for that shit. No more lectures from Logiko.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Is that right?


🌐 Before the Shift (19th–early 20th century)

• Democrats: Dominated the South, defended segregation, supported Jim Crow laws, and opposed civil rights for Black Americans.
• Republicans: Party of Lincoln and abolition, strong in the North, associated with Reconstruction and protecting Black voting rights (at least in the 19th century).

⚡ The Shift in Motion

1. New Deal Era (1930s–1940s):
   • Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Democratic New Deal coalition attracted working-class voters, immigrants, and some Black Americans (especially in the North) by offering economic relief and jobs.
   • But Southern Democrats (“Dixiecrats”) still clung to segregation.
2. Civil Rights Era (1940s–1960s):
   • Presidents like Harry Truman (desegregated the military in 1948) and John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (Civil Rights Act of 1964, Voting Rights Act of 1965) tied the Democratic Party to civil rights.
   • Many white Southern Democrats opposed this and began drifting away.
3. Southern Strategy (1960s–1980s):
   • Republicans, starting with Richard Nixon, actively courted disaffected white Southern conservatives using states’ rights rhetoric, law-and-order themes, and opposition to busing/desegregation.
   • Over time, the South shifted from a Democratic stronghold to a Republican one.

✅ After the Shift (late 20th century → today)

• Democrats: Became the party of civil rights, racial minorities, urban voters, liberals, and progressives.
• Republicans: Became dominant in the South, aligned with white conservatives, evangelical Christians, and free-market policies.

Oversimplified but pretty much.

 

[NAMELESS]

Is that right?


🌐 Before the Shift (19th–early 20th century)

• Democrats: Dominated the South, defended segregation, supported Jim Crow laws, and opposed civil rights for Black Americans.
• Republicans: Party of Lincoln and abolition, strong in the North, associated with Reconstruction and protecting Black voting rights (at least in the 19th century).

⚡ The Shift in Motion

1. New Deal Era (1930s–1940s):
   • Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Democratic New Deal coalition attracted working-class voters, immigrants, and some Black Americans (especially in the North) by offering economic relief and jobs.
   • But Southern Democrats (“Dixiecrats”) still clung to segregation.
2. Civil Rights Era (1940s–1960s):
   • Presidents like Harry Truman (desegregated the military in 1948) and John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (Civil Rights Act of 1964, Voting Rights Act of 1965) tied the Democratic Party to civil rights.
   • Many white Southern Democrats opposed this and began drifting away.
3. Southern Strategy (1960s–1980s):
   • Republicans, starting with Richard Nixon, actively courted disaffected white Southern conservatives using states’ rights rhetoric, law-and-order themes, and opposition to busing/desegregation.
   • Over time, the South shifted from a Democratic stronghold to a Republican one.

✅ After the Shift (late 20th century → today)

• Democrats: Became the party of civil rights, racial minorities, urban voters, liberals, and progressives.
• Republicans: Became dominant in the South, aligned with white conservatives, evangelical Christians, and free-market policies.

Oh nooo, your argument is instantly invalid. It's AI.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Oh nooo, your argument is instantly invalid. It's AI.

Lmao, if you’re using it to craft your own argument for debate like you do…

 

[Logiko]

My refusal is to go around on useless term like that. I don't have time for that shit. No more lectures from Logiko.

And I want to think that you are smarter than you lead on. We can't always get what we want, so it is what it is at the end of the day.

So you are willing to listen while understanding that like me or anyone else, you can have biases created by the systems of domination that structure our thoughts and education ?

If so then yes. It was ableist. And it's ok. Now you know we must avoid to do it.

 

[Reborn]

This is one of the biggest reasons that Ronald Reagan, Aimee McPherson, and Anita Bryant are my top 3 most hated individuals in American history.

I have absolutely no idea who are Aimee and Anita 😅

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Oversimplified but pretty much.

Ok then we can work with that.

Democratic party went from a party that was against black people to be free to a party where they believe black people are inferior and needs special rights?

And they are also the ones always increasing or preaching to an increase in minimal wage which is a well know anti-black law.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

So you are willing to listen while understanding that like me or anyone else, you can have biases created by the systems of domination that structure our thoughts and education ?

If so then yes. It was ableist. And it's ok. Now you know we must avoid to do it.

Logiko. Shut the fuck up. Seriously

 

[NAMELESS]

Lmao, if you’re using it to craft your own argument for debate like you do…

Going by that logic, paraphrasing a book or what someone else said somewhere doesn't really count either, which is dumb. AI just analyzes data and produces a synthesis. I can't use a summary in an argument now?

 

[Uncle Van]

I have absolutely no idea who are Aimee and Anita 😅

Lmao. Aimee McPherson is the godmother of televangelists. She was the one who combined Christianity with American nationalism. Anita Bryant is the godmother of the "gay people are after your kids and a sin to god" narrative that is prevalent today.

 

[Logiko]

Logiko. Shut the fuck up. Seriously

Then I overestimated you.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

 

[Kami Burn]

Logiko. Shut the fuck up. Seriously

Based.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Based.

what's your signature from

 

[Kami Burn]

what's your signature from

Higurashi Sotsu.

 

[Logiko]

@Blax Blah , this is why I can't consider him a leftist yet:

>>

So you are willing to listen while understanding that like me or anyone else, you can have biases created by the systems of domination that structure our thoughts and education ?

If so then yes. It was ableist. And it's ok. Now you know we must avoid to do it.

>>

Logiko. Shut the fuck up. Seriously

 

[Ravagerblade]

Friendly reminder that Biden called the wife of the Firefighter who died during Trump's shooting.

She didn't want to talk to Biden, because she was MAGA.

It's a big cult, and only fucking crazy people are in it.

JD Vance travelling to Utah over the 9/11 Memorial tells me everything I need to know. What a joke.

Don't be selective. Kamala and Biden never reached out for the Gold Star Soliders. Tit for Tat.