by agree I mean are basically on the left
Idk how you can say a guy like Van doesn't understand politics, even if I find his takes too conspiracy pilled for my taste at times he clearly understands politics
Van understands most things in politics, but has a blindspot that makes him oblivious to a bigger understanding and most of all, doesn't want to question fully the double position of reactionary power he has against leftist both in real life and this forum, making him my main political enemy by structure.
You took the stance that Carrot would be SH, straight up telling anyone who said otherwise that they were wrong and needed to read the story.
Yes I did that. But when I did, I made it very clear that it was a troll.
But what I seriously expressed is this:
Carrot was prepared like a strawhat. This, is still my stance. I still believe that Carrot was modeled around the strawhat pattern. I already explained why in detail, no need.
You claimed Carrot joining wasn't your opinion, but an analysis based on what the story is clearly presenting to us.
Yup and I was wrong. I expressed that many times. There are absolutely no point in bringing it up again and again, you won't get a new result lol.
This was indeed not an opinion, this was a conclusion of an analysis as I didn't really understand why Oda would create a character like this for no other reason than a strawhat. > What I didn't know then, was his plan to make her Queen.
My conclusion, hypothesis and thus theory was false, my analysis, still stands.
To you, it was so obvious that Carrot was being built for a grand payoff that those who disagree must have an unreasonable level of bias.
It is still obvious lol. Nothing changed lmao.
And if I'm wrong on the only option is that Oda created her story with a form of unconscious motive
(not really inconscious, but without really paying attention to the impact, probably because of his daughter). Which is also probable, all writers have pattern that they don't necessarily recognize.
For anyone who disagreed or shit talked Carrot, you claimed it stems from toxicity rooted in their inner sexism and misogyny
Only when there was shittalk* Yup. The shit talking that you could see with Carrot was completely different from the regular type of shittalking that you can usually see with other characters.
The remarks thrown at the character AND Yamato were full of sexism and male gaze. I was right to call that out.
You even told @Jew D. Boy (sorry if the tags annoy you Jew. Just making a point), a feminist and ideologically similar to you, to stop being so awfully sexist. You even told him "if you are progressive, I'm Queen Elizabeth", all because of Carrot.
Can someone give me a crown then ?
lmao I found it
@Jew D. Boy
Explain yourself
Hell, you even said Tama was gonna join the SHs and told those who disagreed that they need to read the story(funnily enough, you said it to @Roo )
Wait wuaaaaat ?
When did I say this? That was probably during my med period. I wasn't very bright then. I never believed that Tama would join. It was just a probability on which I theorized. lmao
and initially blamed Oda for messing up.
Nah... I said "
wait, there might be something I'm not seeing". And even if he doesn't do anything, I won't blame Oda for it or the story. At best it would be a clear yet simple narrative mistakes but every writer does that and this would really not be a big deal.
It's crazy how you twist everything lmao.
Replace Carrot with leftism or other topics, and the situation remains the same.
Yup. I see things that you can't lol.
Your issue is that you always try and mask your opinions as sole natural conclusions based on the facts.
When I'm telling you something I'm not sure, I tell you "I don't know" or "I don't know enough about the subject", for the rest, I base everything on data or analysis.
Yea, sometimes I'm wrong and I go a little bit overboard when I say "you don't understand". It can happen, I'm not perfect. But most of the time, I would say 90 to 95% of the time, there are no reasons for me to be wavy. I'm sure and proud of what I know so I'm sharing it.
You don't have to listen to me, you all can ignore me if you want. I never forced anyone to answer to me. Dismissing the knowledge of someone on a subject when I always see bad takes is fair game.
But you prefer looking at me trying to defend the Manga and values this place were built around rather than actually acknowledge the real problem
For example, it is a fact that the police are tools for oppression. It is a fact that the police are tools to uphold the status quo. Those facts dont make your subjective opinion of the police being unnecessary today the only viable or factual option.
You missed a spot: "the police will always defend the material interest of the ruling class*".
Meaning:
The police will never really be on the side of the population and thus, will always eventually end up oppressing it.
