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Wtf kinda point that is?
Luffy got shit on by gazelle man
One shot by Apooo
Has done jack shit in Wano so far

Compared to that a Headliner backed up by an army of gifters not dying against Zoro doesn't mean shit especially considering Zoro himself said he is restraining himself so he can save his energy for Kaido
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No Page One beat Sanji and Sanji recovered fast due to his Power Range suit same way he did against King
Luffy used a named attack 《 Red hawk 》 ( gear 2 + hardening + fire element ) to punch Holdem 《 special Gifter 》 in chapter 917 but he appeared again in chapter 922 so 5 chapters that Gifter appeared fine despite using a named attack and that's an enraged Luffy whereas Zoro without CoA and no named attack and while restraining himself to conserve his power to fight Kaido he cut a gifter and he appeared after 10 chapters .

▪An enraged luffy + named attack + gear 2 + hardening >>> the Gifter appeared 5 chapters later
▪a restrained Zoro + without CoA + no named attack >>> the Gifter appeared 10 chapters later :kayneshrug:
 
You need get this levels shit out your head. Oden was gonna kill kaido in 2 attacks what diff is that
Kaido koed Oden with a Thunder Bagua from behind, what diff is that? Ofc I have Oden >= Young Kaido but it was definitely an extreme diff fight between top tiers. It's just the case that every single mistake can lead to fatal causalties between top tiers because of their incredible strength.

There's a significant gap between Mihawk and Fuji but Mihawk high diffs him at best. There is a reason why Fujitora is the current Admiral. We just need to know his backstory.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Kaido koed Oden with a Thunder Bagua from behind, what diff is that? Ofc I have Oden >= Young Kaido but it was definitely an extreme diff fight between top tiers. It's just the case that every single mistake can lead to fatal causalties between top tiers because of their incredible strength.

There's a significant gap between Mihawk and Fuji but Mihawk high diffs him at best. There is a reason why Fujitora is the current Admiral. We just need to know his backstory.
Oden fought an army tanked boro breath and was still trying to get up after being SNUCK.
Dont try act retarded and compare that to a war torn oden about to kill him in 2 attacks.
 
It seems the viz version implies Luffy could handle all the gifters around them in 3 seconds and not him together with Sanji like the fan translation stated.
Queen is about to close the doors to the castle leaving all those down the stage there to deal withe the Ice Oni.
Finally,Yamato is about to get clapped by Sasaki and his crew .
 
It seems the viz version implies Luffy could handle all the gifters around them in 3 seconds and not him together with Sanji like the fan translation stated.
Queen is about to close the doors to the castle leaving all those down the stage there to deal withe the Ice Oni.
Finally,Yamato is about to get clapped by Sasaki and his crew .
haha, Your jokes are lame.
Yamato going to show why messing with her is not a good idea. She already took down one of them. EZ.
 
Oden fought an army tanked boro breath and was still trying to get up after being SNUCK.
Dont try act retarded and compare that to a war torn oden about to kill him in 2 attacks.
Oden TRIED to get up and failed afterwards. Thus, Kaido defeated him with a sneak attack.
That has nothing to do by acting retarded only because you are unable to grasp that small mistakes lead to fatal causalties. WB got a heart attack -> Akainu blowed a good deal of magma into his torso. WB hit Akainu from behind -> significantly hurt him in result.

Oden would have eventually killed Kaido, nobody denies that, but their fight was closer than you make it out to be.
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Why? He literally couldnt best him in the castle.
Well, at this chapter, Kaido made clear that Oden could have killed him. Dude was literally wanking him hard lol.
 

nik87

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Well, at this chapter, Kaido made clear that Oden could have killed him. Dude was literally wanking him hard lol.
Yes, there is no doubt that Oden could have killed Kaido, many can kill him.
However, lucky circumstances led to him getting a chance to kill him.
There is no doubt that any top tier will fuck Kaido up in dragon form.
Doing that to base/hybrid form is an entirely different matter.
 
Yes, there is no doubt that Oden could have killed Kaido, many can kill him.
However, lucky circumstances led to him getting a chance to kill him.
There is no doubt that any top tier will fuck Kaido up in dragon form.
Doing that to base/hybrid form is an entirely different matter.
Well, Oden vs Kaido, who would have won in a fair and square 1vs1 fight?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Oden TRIED to get up and failed afterwards. Thus, Kaido defeated him with a sneak attack.
That has nothing to do by acting retarded only because you are unable to grasp that small mistakes lead to fatal causalties. WB got a heart attack -> Akainu blowed a good deal of magma into his torso. WB hit Akainu from behind -> significantly hurt him in result.

Oden would have eventually killed Kaido, nobody denies that, but their fight was closer than you make it out to be.
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Well, at this chapter, Kaido made clear that Oden could have killed him. Dude was literally wanking him hard lol.
You literally being retarded. Their fight was gonna end in 2 hits. The sneak attack isnt the same as a normal fight. Kaido HIMSELF didnt even know the hag was there.
 
You literally being retarded.
Why so mad, dude?

Their fight was gonna end in 2 hits.
Oden tried to deal the finishing blow, yes? Once again, I've literally said that Oden was stronger than Kaido, can you read?
As a matter of fact, before Oden dealt a fatal blow on Kaido, his full zoan mode btw, they were evenly matched. Back at the castle, they were evenly matched as well. What do you call that? A low diff? Lol.

The sneak attack isnt the same as a normal fight.
A sneak attack is a sneak attack, no matter what the circumstances are.

Distraction or a short opening in the defense can obviously cause your loss. What's what I'm trying to explain to you lol.
 
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