The thing that what we mentioned though was that what created the rise of Orochi was the discrimination of the Kurozumi clan, as Oden acknowledged this. It's what led to Kanjuro's betrayal. If the citizens of Wano don't acknowledge their short mindedness, the cycle will continue again. Yamato's the best character to address that subject matter and show that, being she's the daughter of the person who killed Oden. What she does afterwards is whatever you guys want, but I firmly believe Yamato's existance is to finally address that. I'm sure Oda realized he couldn't do that for either Orochi or Kanjuro because they were too irredeemable by that point.
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This also could lead into a flashback because we did see a little mini Yamato at 8 years old. Oda has lately showcase villain flashbacks. From a different Perspective as well other characters. I definitely believe we’re going to get both Yamato and Kaido flashback within this arc.
The rise of orochi begin when Oden abandon his duties of taking charge of his country that needed him. Despite followers pleading oden for help he refuse to such thing. Even the Roger pirates wanted offered their Assistance To help liberate his country. Oden samurai pride didn’t allowed it In the flashback he was not interested shogun of wano he is more interested going out see the world outside of his own borders. When he found out truth about his country use to open to the world. He wishes he could progress his people to the promise land of outside of world. However, he knew couldn’t force away to shogun of wano. That is why he trusted his descendants and his followers to carry on his will for him. His legend as character would speak throughout land of wano thanks to followers and his wife. But surprising enough the child of his enemy (Kaido) would look up to him as idol and a role model for years to come.
Momo as child wants shogun he learning a lot leadership from counts people he is met during journey with straw hats. He is shown he has no interest go out sea any further beyond wano. If anything he wants see sister again after war is over take Responsibility for his father failure to do anything. This pressure high for a little boy to take charge of an entire country. Even the citizen want kozuki clan to return. He starting to understand as kid he can’t do anything on his own without others help him and aid in his time of need. He is also learning ask others help him in his Situation.
But is momo going to shogun wano? In my opinion I don’t think so it could possible be his sister or one of 9 scabbards somehow survived this. If you want break cycle of discrimination and hatred you might need someone else take charge instead solely relying on a family bloodline as your saviors. I have heard from fan theory that believe kinemon could be placement holder to be next Shogun of wano instead momo. While momo grow as character, learns swordsman ship, and having best education available towards homeland. He will carry the lesson he got from these strange people he met on journey with them to become a better adult. The next time straw hats meet him again he will shogun of wano.
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The rise of orochi begin when Oden abandon his duties of taking charge of his country that needed him. Despite followers pleading oden for help he refuse to such thing. Even the Roger pirates wanted offered their Assistance To help liberate his country. Oden samurai pride didn’t allowed it In the flashback he was not interested shogun of wano he is more interested going out see the world outside of his own borders. When he found out truth about his country use to open to the world. He wishes he could progress his people to the promise land of outside of world. However, he knew couldn’t force away to shogun of wano. That is why he trusted his descendants and his followers to carry on his will for him. His legend as character would speak throughout land of wano thanks to followers and his wife. But surprising enough the child of his enemy (Kaido) would look up to him as idol and a role model for years to come.
Momo as child wants shogun he learning a lot leadership from counts people he is met during journey with straw hats. He is shown he has no interest go out sea any further beyond wano. If anything he wants see sister again after war is over take Responsibility for his father failure to do anything. This pressure high for a little boy to take charge of an entire country. Even the citizen want kozuki clan to return. He starting to understand as kid he can’t do anything on his own without others help him and aid in his time of need. He is also learning ask others help him in his Situation.
But is momo going to shogun wano? In my opinion I don’t think so it could possible be his sister or one of 9 scabbards somehow survived this. If you want break cycle of discrimination and hatred you might need someone else take charge instead solely relying on a family bloodline as your saviors. I have heard from fan theory that believe kinemon could be placement holder to be next Shogun of wano instead momo. While momo grow as character, learns swordsman ship, and having best education available towards homeland. He will carry the lesson he got from these strange people he met on journey with them to become a better adult. The next time straw hats meet him again he will shogun of wano.
The theory come from shonenboy
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I actually think the opposite, Yamato has a lot of things attached to their character already that makes them feel beyond Wano:
-Oden's Logbook, Yamato's bible that houses Oden's adventures, also something the WG and a lot of other Big Names will want, even if it's destroyed, that information(regardless of what's logged) is in Yamato's head
-The child of Kaidou, yonkou, former member of the Rock's Pirates, a man who declares war on the world, etc. We know what WG will do to children of big name threats to them
-a Desire to leave and self-invited themselves to Luffy's ship
-Getting distinct focus despite being just introduced, several chapters and titles dedicated to her
-And this chapter, which gives a distinct insight to their character.
Just my thoughts on why I'm on the Yamato train
-Oden's Logbook, Yamato's bible that houses Oden's adventures, also something the WG and a lot of other Big Names will want, even if it's destroyed, that information(regardless of what's logged) is in Yamato's head
-The child of Kaidou, yonkou, former member of the Rock's Pirates, a man who declares war on the world, etc. We know what WG will do to children of big name threats to them
-a Desire to leave and self-invited themselves to Luffy's ship
-Getting distinct focus despite being just introduced, several chapters and titles dedicated to her
-And this chapter, which gives a distinct insight to their character.
Just my thoughts on why I'm on the Yamato train
Orochi's resentment for being persecuted over his family name is what led him to deceive those around him, kill the Shogun, and hire an external force for power. And just to add insult to injury, had one of his fellow clan members be a spy for him to constantly report on the Samurai's whereabouts and actions. He did all of this due to the persecution of his family and being deceived and manipulated to further another's goals. Orochi is a byproduct of Wano's close-minded view and until that gets address, it'll keep happening again. What if there is another completely innocent Kurozumi out there that is a target for harassment? Should they suffer from the citizens of Wano even if they did nothing wrong? Imagine if Tama or Toko were Kurozumis, should they now be under scrutiny because Orochi and Kanjuro are technically related to them?
That's why Yamato's the best answer to this. She's protecting the next Shogun of Wano, fighting with the allied forces and is resolute to fight for Oden's will. If its later revealed that she's Kaido's daughter, you expect this won't get addressed and never be resolved?
That's why Yamato's the best answer to this. She's protecting the next Shogun of Wano, fighting with the allied forces and is resolute to fight for Oden's will. If its later revealed that she's Kaido's daughter, you expect this won't get addressed and never be resolved?
Did oden fuck up yes or no? Yamato has shown no interest staying wano or being shogun of wano. Right now She doing something she couldn’t do 20 years ago. Now trying to do something worthwhile that Relative to the main plot of the arc. If the some nine scabbards are alive she doesn’t have stay in wano with Momo by his side. Her father Organization has already crumbled and some of her dad’s crew member are likely going go go to back to being former captains of there pirates crews once again. Once the crew is dismantled and completely destroyed she doesn’t need take over her fathers business anymore. The One piece world everybody’s has ideology and There Beliefs they go by. Kaido’s crew had former/previous ambitions of being king of the pirates one day but he broke their will to do anything move forward in life. Katkurai who is well respect family man who was older brother figure to most of siblings. He doesn’t mind taking responsibilities for his family shortcomings or failure to do much anything. Yamato in a lot ways different character from her Father and katkurai. She seems pain and annoying for Other member of the crew. She actually wants to leave her dad’s organization all together. This girl was a prisoner under her own father Organization for 20 years. She wasn’t able go on an adventure and branch out do things for herself. Why not join luffy’s crew? We could use extra power. Level plain field moving story forward. Once again what happens when the borders of wano do open? It’s possible she might likely get a bounty on her head. Since she is Kaido’s kid and aid ailed forces she would be force to leave. Look I get that her Orochi and Kanjoura family did a lot of fucked up things that they can’t be resolve since obviously there Dead. Kaido rule for 20 years from oppression will take sometime for other commoners to accept and adapt towards to the situation. Especially if you descendants of person that ruined country 20+ years. I don’t think good idea keep a close eye on her every waken moment. It still makes feel like she is prisoner. You can give example kyros that similar to Yamato in that position. Kyros did have Kill some folks. It took sometime for people respect him as person eventually. Riku did voucher for him. Kyros work his way seek redemption. Scarlett didn’t trust him until he save her from pirates. What I am saying Yamato shouldn’t limited by looking after someone else kid. On constant Surveillant watch 24/7. She should do what truly desires. Yamato might have Ambitions and desires that are outside wano.
do I believe Oden fucked up? Yes I do he Could of asked some his own allies liberate his country’s problems. He could listen The remaining scabbards to help them in there situation. His samurai Pride just didn’t allow him to do that though. Oh yeah I forgot something and since the border wano are going be open. I forgot say this could luffy’s Territory now. You might have Alley marines that respect straw hats to look after momo.
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do I believe Oden fucked up? Yes I do he Could of asked some his own allies liberate his country’s problems. He could listen The remaining scabbards to help them in there situation. His samurai Pride just didn’t allow him to do that though. Oh yeah I forgot something and since the border wano are going be open. I forgot say this could luffy’s Territory now. You might have Alley marines that respect straw hats to look after momo.
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Please read what I wrote carefully next time. I never said anything about Yamato not leaving Wano.
While I don't believe she will leave because she never knew the Scabbards were alive, nor that Momo and Shinobu still existed, I didn't express that in my post. I stated that she's currently the best character to address the close-minded view that the Wano's citizens have on the heritage that threaten the Kozuki Clan, constantly persecuting them and that won't change if Momonosuke addresses this as a Kozuki. I realized that Yamato is the best person to show this since she is the daughter of Kaido, the man who killed the highly beloved and respected Kozuki Oden. Now that its shown that Yamato will defend Momo to the death, Momonosuke can finally address this problem that Oden had noted himself. She is the best opportunity for that.
You can interpret her prospective chances all you want, I just said that she will be the example that shows that you can't persecute an individual based on their lineage.
While I don't believe she will leave because she never knew the Scabbards were alive, nor that Momo and Shinobu still existed, I didn't express that in my post. I stated that she's currently the best character to address the close-minded view that the Wano's citizens have on the heritage that threaten the Kozuki Clan, constantly persecuting them and that won't change if Momonosuke addresses this as a Kozuki. I realized that Yamato is the best person to show this since she is the daughter of Kaido, the man who killed the highly beloved and respected Kozuki Oden. Now that its shown that Yamato will defend Momo to the death, Momonosuke can finally address this problem that Oden had noted himself. She is the best opportunity for that.
You can interpret her prospective chances all you want, I just said that she will be the example that shows that you can't persecute an individual based on their lineage.
As I said, before it’s gonna take sometime for wano citizen to fully trust Yamato as her own person. If wano opens its borders to the world at end this arc. Is likely She will get bounty on her head. With akainu sense justice he wouldn’t Hesitate trying pursuing her. I don’t think wano citizen could try protect her. Since cp0 was on island I can see them leak out information about her existence to the world. Most people being afraid her outside of wano.
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That's why it needs to be addressed and Yamato is the best person to do so, a person who defended the Kozuki lineage with her life on the line.
Forget about if she stays or she goes, I'm saying that this issue will surface when its revealed she's Kaido's daughter and needs to be resolved by the citizens of Wano before history repeats itself again.
Forget about if she stays or she goes, I'm saying that this issue will surface when its revealed she's Kaido's daughter and needs to be resolved by the citizens of Wano before history repeats itself again.
Is not just oden’s death all sort thing that happened wano. Poisonous drinking water, towns and homes that being destroyed, family killing each other just survive, poisons food, eating devil fruit weird side effects, citizen that can’t utilize weapons to defend themselves, and prisoner barley get anything to eat to survive. Characters who are being tortured. Even mention kozuki as hope wano can you will be killed.
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Most of which can be solved by ridding the country of Kaido since all of that was man-made and intentionality created to weaken the citizens and avoid rebellion. Rarely giving them food till they starve, then feeding them SMILE fruits. Poisoning their water intentionally by dumping waste. The surplus of food that was withheld can now be dispersed.
With Orochi's reign coming to a conclusion and Kaido defeated, many of the country's problems can be resolved, even the after effects of the SMILE. Pretty sure Chopper can do something about it. It's not like the Straw Hats are going to leave immediately once the arc concludes. There's a lot of time left. And in that timespan Momo can use his influence as a Kozuki to address a concern among the country that his father couldn't, that being the persecution of innocents based on lineage. Once again, Yamato is the best example for that.
There is still more to be addressed in Wano regardless. Remember, there's a Road Poneglyph somewhere on Onigashima that Robin will need and there's that conversation Momonosuke had with Zunesha and what that's all about. Maybe a hint where the Straw Hats go next or nowhere in particular. The banquet celebrating Jinbe's inclusion in the crew or if that's gonna be on hold till Big Mom is defeated (she's not going down this arc).
With Orochi's reign coming to a conclusion and Kaido defeated, many of the country's problems can be resolved, even the after effects of the SMILE. Pretty sure Chopper can do something about it. It's not like the Straw Hats are going to leave immediately once the arc concludes. There's a lot of time left. And in that timespan Momo can use his influence as a Kozuki to address a concern among the country that his father couldn't, that being the persecution of innocents based on lineage. Once again, Yamato is the best example for that.
There is still more to be addressed in Wano regardless. Remember, there's a Road Poneglyph somewhere on Onigashima that Robin will need and there's that conversation Momonosuke had with Zunesha and what that's all about. Maybe a hint where the Straw Hats go next or nowhere in particular. The banquet celebrating Jinbe's inclusion in the crew or if that's gonna be on hold till Big Mom is defeated (she's not going down this arc).
I think that the people will trust the daughter of Kaido if Shinobu, Momo and Luffy stand up for her, that she is a good person and that she can be trusted. After all, she helps the alliance to save wano, to open the borders of wano to fulfill oden's will, protected oden's diary for 20 years and now protects shinobu and oden's son.
Even that she is the daughter of kaido, she still didn't do anything against wano ... rather the opposite.
Even that she is the daughter of kaido, she still didn't do anything against wano ... rather the opposite.
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