General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Ravagerblade]

Time and time again this manga showed for the general populous, couldn't give a damn about a Pirate nor their Child. It is a theme...

 

[Visa]

Time and time again this manga showed for the general populous, couldn't give a damn about a Pirate nor their Child. It is a theme...

Except when its a main theme of the arc. That's kinda how all this shit happened.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Except when its a main theme of the arc. That's kinda how all this shit happened.

Your point....

 

[Staticshadic]

Most of which can be solved by ridding the country of Kaido since all of that was man-made and intentionality created to weaken the citizens and avoid rebellion. Rarely giving them food till they starve, then feeding them SMILE fruits. Poisoning their water intentionally by dumping waste. The surplus of food that was withheld can now be dispersed.

With Orochi's reign coming to a conclusion and Kaido defeated, many of the country's problems can be resolved, even the after effects of the SMILE. Pretty sure Chopper can do something about it. It's not like the Straw Hats are going to leave immediately once the arc concludes. There's a lot of time left. And in that timespan Momo can use his influence as a Kozuki to address a concern among the country that his father couldn't, that being the persecution of innocents based on lineage. Once again, Yamato is the best example for that.

There is still more to be addressed in Wano regardless. Remember, there's a Road Poneglyph somewhere on Onigashima that Robin will need and there's that conversation Momonosuke had with Zunesha and what that's all about. Maybe a hint where the Straw Hats go next or nowhere in particular. The banquet celebrating Jinbe's inclusion in the crew or if that's gonna be on hold till Big Mom is defeated (she's not going down this arc).

I was the innocent is the word is basically unfamiliar fearing unknown Yamato status

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I think that the people will trust the daughter of Kaido if Shinobu, Momo and Luffy stand up for her, that she is a good person and that she can be trusted. After all, she helps the alliance to save wano, to open the borders of wano to fulfill oden's will, protected oden's diary for 20 years and now protects shinobu and oden's son.

Even that she is the daughter of kaido, she still didn't do anything against wano ... rather the opposite.

Even if the other characters try a voucher for her. As once said before, when boarder wano open she will get bounty on her head since she daughter of yonko. Which citizen won’t be able protect in her situation which will cause her leave originally wanted. Just because she aiding ally force doesn’t mean the world will see her as own individual. They will see her as Kaido’s kid. So going take longer citizen fully trust her they will have sat goodbye thank her saving there country and protecting momo. As result she free from father shackles she is free travel whatever she so desires and will be free to go wherever she wants. Plus she wil Not be discriminated base on her own lineage they will treat her as own individual.

 

[Visa]

Your point....

Being that this is going to be addressed as an issue, not handwaved.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Being that this is going to be addressed as an issue, not handwaved.

It may, regardless, Yamato is not going to be well recieved by the Populace... resentment will take hold. This isn't Dressrosa.

 

[Prochief]

Even if the other characters try a voucher for her. As once said before, when boarder wano open she will get bounty on her head since she daughter of yonko. Which citizen won’t be able protect in her situation which will cause her leave originally wanted. Just because she aiding ally force doesn’t mean the world will see her as own individual. They will see her as Kaido’s kid. So going take longer citizen fully trust her they will have sat goodbye thank her saving there country and protecting momo. As result she free from father shackles she is free travel whatever she so desires and will be free to go wherever she wants. Plus she wil Not be discriminated base on her own lineage they will treat her as own individual.

That is questionable. Cp0 was also in WCI and the other sons and daughters of bigmom got no bounty. Not even chiffon or Germa 66.

 

[Visa]

It may, regardless, Yamato is not going to be well recieved by the Populace... resentment will take hold. This isn't Dressrosa.

That's why it needs to be addressed and resolved. Chapter 965 explains all too well of why and how this conflict started.

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That is questionable. Cp0 was also in WCI and the other sons and daughters of bigmom got no bounty. Not even chiffon or Germa 66.

Or Carrot really. They only increased Luffy's bounty due to Katakuri's defeat and Sanji's bounty due to being a Vinsmoke and adjusted his wanted poster to have his full name.

Nami, Chopper, and Brook didn't get an increase either. Hopefully this arc changes that.

 

[Staticshadic]

That is questionable. Cp0 was also in WCI and the other sons and daughters of bigmom got no bounty. Not even chiffon or Germa 66.

What the hell we saw cracker, smoothie, and Katkurai. 3 children under a yonko who commanders big mom. Is very likely government would put bounty Yamato head since 100 beast Kaido’s only daughter.

That's why it needs to be addressed and resolved. Chapter 965 explains all too well of why and how this conflict started.

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Or Carrot really. They only increased Luffy's bounty due to Katakuri's defeat and Sanji's bounty due to being a Vinsmoke and adjusted his wanted poster to have his full name.

Nami, Chopper, and Brook didn't get an increase either. Hopefully this arc changes that.

Luffy, sanji, and Jinbei are the only characters who got notoriety
Luffy was consider fifth emperor.
Sanji former a Member of Germa
Jinbei was additional members Luffy’s crew
While carrot I guess was scene just be like another pet. They don’t take serious threat. They gave perosparrow the eldest son kf big mom a bounty on his head.

 

[Prochief]

What the hell we saw cracker, smoothie, and Katkurai. 3 children under a yonko who commanders big mom. Is very likely government would put bounty Yamato head since 100 beast Kaido’s only daughter.

What's your point? According to your logic, Yamato has to get a bounty because she is the daughter of Kaido, which means that the other children of bigmom also have to get a bounty because they are also the sons and daughters of bigmom.

My point is, just because Yamato is the daughter of Kaido, it doesn't mean that she has to get a bounty, otherwise all the other sons and daughters of bigmom have to get a bounty as well.

 

[Staticshadic]

What's your point? According to your logic, Yamato has to get a bounty because she is the daughter of Kaido, which means that the other children of bigmom also have to get a bounty because they are also the sons and daughters of bigmom.

My point is, just because Yamato is the daughter of Kaido, it doesn't mean that she has to get a bounty, otherwise all the other sons and daughters of bigmom have to get a bounty as well.

Big mom children have Bounty head you don’t think. A descendent of a criminal only child would get a bounty on there head? You don’t believe akainu sense of justice would try go after? This guy no hesitation of killing survivors of Ohara. Nor did problem killing sons Notorious criminals. The government made him fleet admiral. He want bring donflamingo justice regardless of him former Celestial dragon. Are you fucking kidding me do you know anybody in the history of one piece who are descendants of children who are criminals and people oppose government they would bounty on their head. Robin at age 8 years old got bounty on her head just was only survivor Oherra the only person who can read the poneglaphs . Ace and luffy when being up outlaw gave them wanted poster. The Issue at the time they didn’t know they were the sons of infamous criminals. This did increases luffy bount. When luffy challenged the government to a fight all sraw hats got a wanted poster on there heads including there ally Franky.

 

[Ravagerblade]

What's your point? According to your logic, Yamato has to get a bounty because she is the daughter of Kaido, which means that the other children of bigmom also have to get a bounty because they are also the sons and daughters of bigmom.

My point is, just because Yamato is the daughter of Kaido, it doesn't mean that she has to get a bounty, otherwise all the other sons and daughters of bigmom have to get a bounty as well.

Have you not been paying attention to the manga?
WG Marines don't care if your a child, they'll kill you regardless.

 

[Prochief]

Big mom children have Bounty head you don’t think. A descendent of a criminal only child would get a bounty on there head? You don’t believe akainu sense of justice would try go after? This guy no hesitation of killing survivors of Ohara. Nor did problem killing sons Notorious criminals. The government made him fleet admiral. He want bring donflamingo justice regardless of him former Celestial dragon. Are you fucking kidding me do you know anybody in the history of one piece who are descendants of children who are criminals and people oppose government they would bounty on their head. Robin at age 8 years old got bounty on her head just was only survivor Oherra the only person who can read the poneglaphs . Ace and luffy when being up outlaw gave them wanted poster. The Issue at the time they didn’t know they were the sons of infamous criminals. This did increases luffy bount. When luffy challenged the government to a fight all sraw hats got a wanted poster on there heads including there ally Franky.

Okay, I notice that you don't understand my point. So I'm stopping here with you.

Have you not been paying attention to the manga?
WG Marines don't care if your a child, they'll kill you regardless.

I know. So what?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Okay, I notice that you don't understand my point. So I'm stopping here with you.

I know. So what?

So you have no point.

 

[Visa]

Luffy, sanji, and Iinbei are the only characters who got notoriety
Luffy was consider fifth emperor.
Sanji former a Member of Germa
Jinbei was additional members Luffy’s crew
While carrot I guess was scene just be like another pet. They don’t take serious threat. They gave perosparrow the eldest son kf big mom a bounty on his head.

And basically you just confirmed that Brook, Chopper, and Nami weren't seen as a threat either. Also, Jinbe's bounty didn't go up, its always been 438 million since the timeskip started after his status as a Warlord was nullified.

 

[Staticshadic]

Okay, I notice that you don't understand my point. So I'm stopping here with you.

I know. So what?

I understand your point but you’re not giving me a great counter argument. I am trying to ask you this one question what makes you believe she won’t get bounty. What make think akainu sense justice would try pursue her? Now that kaido is dead or defeat. Recently events story the world government literally call Vivi’s family bunch traitors. Imu was looking at Vivi picture. The one elder stars ask would us erased from this world. There was an assassination as well as an assassination attempt someone life in the reverie arc. You don’t think that wasn’t vivi.

 

[Prochief]

So you have no point.

I have a point that you and Static don't seem to understand. The world government now also knows the identities of the other sons and daughters of bigmom, which means they have to get a bounty because they are the children of a famous criminal.

 

[Staticshadic]

And basically you just confirmed that Brook, Chopper, and Nami weren't seen as a threat either. Also, Jinbe's bounty didn't go up, its always been 438 million since the timeskip started after his status as a Warlord was nullified.

Yeah but Jinbei was an additional member of the crew was he not. So This is big news that straw hats have warlord on there crew.

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I have a point that you and Static don't seem to understand. The world government now also knows the identities of the other sons and daughters of bigmom, which means they have to get a bounty because they are the children of a famous criminal.

So you saying that kaido his own kid won’t have that same result? Since Kaido’s criminal himself.

 

[Prochief]

So you saying that kaido his own kid won’t have that same result? Since Kaido’s criminal himself.

Now you seem to understand my point. Right, otherwise the other kids from bigmom have to get a bounty too.

 

[Ravagerblade]

I have a point that you and Static don't seem to understand. The world government now also knows the identities of the other sons and daughters of bigmom, which means they have to get a bounty because they are the children of a famous criminal.

How do you figure? This was addressed with Cracker, he's active outside of Whole Cake Island and Tottoland, but even the Marines don't know his face... Its very doubtful they know every single child and gives them bounties... on top of which what amount they'd give...