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Here is another Hadith
Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
إِنَّ مِنْ أَكْمَلِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ إِيمَانًا أَحْسَنُهُمْ خُلُقًا وَأَلْطَفُهُمْ بِأَهْلِهِ
Verily, the most complete of believers in faith are those with the best character and who are most kind to their families.
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2612, Grade: Sahih
Verily, the most complete of believers in faith are those with the best character and who are most kind to their families.
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2612, Grade: Sahih
If religions are a scam, no reward or punishment for anyone.
There are no proofs for anything, that's why every religion thrives. If one had proof, it would debunk all the others.
Just because we have no answers for things we dont have to make stuff up and attribute it to imaginary divine beings...
If you believe that a creator made it all, which creator was it? Odin, Ra, Zeus, Jewish god, Jesus, Allah? They couldnt all have done it. Which one of them is wrong, who is lying about it? Could it be, they are all lying?
Doesnt apply to us... lol First step is to realize that you heard the story when you were too young to think straight and to question anything. Others dont believe in other gods too so your group aint no different than the other. You were taught not to believe in others, it is your job to to decide what you will believe into because the choice of religion is determined by pure chance where in the world one will be born into. To other religions Allah is also made up... Whether people condemn it or not is not the point, people of all religions have killed in the name of god, not a single one is an exception to it.
Yes, religion is taught to young children, good soldiers are recruited when they are very young because at those ages they cannot think straight, they cannot decide for themselves what is right or wrong. It is not a coincidence. 2 billion believers somehow changes the fact that each religion started as a sect formed by a couple of people? What did Islamic people believe in 2000 years ago? Religion is 1600 years old afaik, so what did they believe in before that? Nothing? Because there was no story for little children?
Who says that some gods are fictional while the others are real? Who can possibly know, lol? Every god is the true god, to his believers...
Why do you think religions are even true? Have you even entertained the idea that all of them might be wrong? Could it be that we have been lied to for thousands of years just to have a piece of mind?
Humans have murdered for thousands of years and it was ok. We have come a far way from those times and realized that it is better to live with structure and rules than to constantly play battle royale... That's why came to agreement that murder is not ok, to scare people into not doing it because life is simply better that way.
Where is the objective morality coming into play? In the supposed afterlife? It certainly not coming into play in our lifes since we all decide it based on our own experiences and circumstances which differ from individual to individual. Murder and rape are wrong because we decided it is a better life where those two are wrong, not so long ago we were doing both of them on daily basis...
There are no proofs for anything, that's why every religion thrives. If one had proof, it would debunk all the others.
Just because we have no answers for things we dont have to make stuff up and attribute it to imaginary divine beings...
If you believe that a creator made it all, which creator was it? Odin, Ra, Zeus, Jewish god, Jesus, Allah? They couldnt all have done it. Which one of them is wrong, who is lying about it? Could it be, they are all lying?
Doesnt apply to us... lol First step is to realize that you heard the story when you were too young to think straight and to question anything. Others dont believe in other gods too so your group aint no different than the other. You were taught not to believe in others, it is your job to to decide what you will believe into because the choice of religion is determined by pure chance where in the world one will be born into. To other religions Allah is also made up... Whether people condemn it or not is not the point, people of all religions have killed in the name of god, not a single one is an exception to it.
Yes, religion is taught to young children, good soldiers are recruited when they are very young because at those ages they cannot think straight, they cannot decide for themselves what is right or wrong. It is not a coincidence. 2 billion believers somehow changes the fact that each religion started as a sect formed by a couple of people? What did Islamic people believe in 2000 years ago? Religion is 1600 years old afaik, so what did they believe in before that? Nothing? Because there was no story for little children?
Who says that some gods are fictional while the others are real? Who can possibly know, lol? Every god is the true god, to his believers...
Why do you think religions are even true? Have you even entertained the idea that all of them might be wrong? Could it be that we have been lied to for thousands of years just to have a piece of mind?
Humans have murdered for thousands of years and it was ok. We have come a far way from those times and realized that it is better to live with structure and rules than to constantly play battle royale... That's why came to agreement that murder is not ok, to scare people into not doing it because life is simply better that way.
Where is the objective morality coming into play? In the supposed afterlife? It certainly not coming into play in our lifes since we all decide it based on our own experiences and circumstances which differ from individual to individual. Murder and rape are wrong because we decided it is a better life where those two are wrong, not so long ago we were doing both of them on daily basis...
So your morality is based on the whims of fallible humans and your moral code changes depending on circumstance? If this true then you can there fore have no moral claims over religion therefore any moral claim you bring up to discredit religion is null.
Now that all and any moral claims against religion you might have are dismissed I can move on to your main argument that religion is just a coping mechanism and God doesn’t exist. If God doesn’t exist how did the Universe come to be because something can’t emerge from nothing.
Now that all and any moral claims against religion you might have are dismissed I can move on to your main argument that religion is just a coping mechanism and God doesn’t exist. If God doesn’t exist how did the Universe come to be because something can’t emerge from nothing.
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And how would that be fair ? Logically speaking all human beings would be better off destroying each for success. The reward and punishments from Allah make sure such things dont happen. Allah didnt magically appear when Islam came. Allah has been here since the dawn of time....for many prophets which came to many different areas.
Again you have no answers.... Not us
Which God has survived in belief the most ? Allah literally means the One God. Jewish, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same God at the end of the day. And which 3 are the biggest religions ? Does anyone still believe in Zeus ? No....
Then why havent I left ? I believed in Santa when I was a kid ? Why dont I see the same about God ? Why do people convert/revert to Islam....if its a fairy tale for children ? Clearly there are some with the capacity to believe and some that dont have such thing...
Where are their proofs...we have ours.
We have the Quran....
We have Hadiths
And Sunnahs
We have predictions of the Prophets...which are all coming true....
Other religions get followers due to how they make people feel. Islam is a religion of proof.
Its a thread for Muslims. I did ask for no hate, so I can report. But debating Nik is interesting.
Again you have no answers.... Not us
Which God has survived in belief the most ? Allah literally means the One God. Jewish, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same God at the end of the day. And which 3 are the biggest religions ? Does anyone still believe in Zeus ? No....
Then why havent I left ? I believed in Santa when I was a kid ? Why dont I see the same about God ? Why do people convert/revert to Islam....if its a fairy tale for children ? Clearly there are some with the capacity to believe and some that dont have such thing...
Where are their proofs...we have ours.
We have the Quran....
We have Hadiths
And Sunnahs
We have predictions of the Prophets...which are all coming true....
Other religions get followers due to how they make people feel. Islam is a religion of proof.
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Its a thread for Muslims. I did ask for no hate, so I can report. But debating Nik is interesting.
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Now that I think I have convinced Nik of God he might cling on to the Idea of Deism, The belief that the universe created be a supreme being but he doesn’t interfere in our activities. Not trying to offend any deists but why would god create us if without reason and if he did then that must mean that he can not communicate with us which a contradiction and an affront to God
Now when discussing Polytheistic religion like most Religions outside of Abrahamic ones, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. We have to consider the fact that most if not all of these religions speak of Gods with Human emotions so if so then a war Among the Gods (Nauzubillah) should happen and as such would destroy the Universe and if it doesn’t then what are these Gods.
Not trying to be Offensive just my personal opinion on why I don’t believe these
Now for Christian and Judaism my disbelief in these is do to theological issues (ie; The Trinity in Christianity)
Now when discussing Polytheistic religion like most Religions outside of Abrahamic ones, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. We have to consider the fact that most if not all of these religions speak of Gods with Human emotions so if so then a war Among the Gods (Nauzubillah) should happen and as such would destroy the Universe and if it doesn’t then what are these Gods.
Not trying to be Offensive just my personal opinion on why I don’t believe these
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Now for Christian and Judaism my disbelief in these is do to theological issues (ie; The Trinity in Christianity)
I think what would make debates/discussions easier is for non-Muslims to ask Muslims the hardest questions, the most important questions. The goal from this is not to convince the other side. The goal is to let others know that we believe that things went that way.
Now this saying about teaching kids religion and they won't think straight. I at certain point of my life questioned and wondered about a lot of things, but I reached a point of understanding. The holy book, Quran is full of miracles. I'm not saying this out of faith/belief. I'm saying this out of understanding the messages. I read.
Now this saying about teaching kids religion and they won't think straight. I at certain point of my life questioned and wondered about a lot of things, but I reached a point of understanding. The holy book, Quran is full of miracles. I'm not saying this out of faith/belief. I'm saying this out of understanding the messages. I read.
I found this and shows why Prophet Muhammad wouldnt be a liar.
I mean at the end of day.....everything in Islam is beneficial for the human and society. We worship Allah, not because Allah needs it. But so we can constantly remember him....so we dont do bad to others or ourselfs. We constantly send blessing and love our Prophet....so we can learn to love him....and thus follow the Sunnah ( His way of living).
How can Islam be human made when humans are so self absorbed and selfish. Why would people believe in in Muhammad.....if he made it all up. Its not possible to decieve all these many people. Many people asked for many proofs and he provided for them. Asked him many questions and he answered them.
Theres literal answer to any of this....other than its the truth.
Me too man....
I mean at the end of day.....everything in Islam is beneficial for the human and society. We worship Allah, not because Allah needs it. But so we can constantly remember him....so we dont do bad to others or ourselfs. We constantly send blessing and love our Prophet....so we can learn to love him....and thus follow the Sunnah ( His way of living).
How can Islam be human made when humans are so self absorbed and selfish. Why would people believe in in Muhammad.....if he made it all up. Its not possible to decieve all these many people. Many people asked for many proofs and he provided for them. Asked him many questions and he answered them.
Theres literal answer to any of this....other than its the truth.
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Me too man....
I recommend learning from an Imam or Mufti if you want to learn more. Don’t just read Sanji Bukhari and other books alone with no help from a scholar because The most important Knowledge is religious knowledge
وَقُل جاءَ الحَقُّ وَزَهَقَ الباطِلُ ۚ إِنَّ الباطِلَ كانَ زَهوقًا
And say, ‘The truth has come, and falsehood has vanished. Indeed falsehood is bound to vanish.’
Quran 17:81
وَقُل جاءَ الحَقُّ وَزَهَقَ الباطِلُ ۚ إِنَّ الباطِلَ كانَ زَهوقًا
And say, ‘The truth has come, and falsehood has vanished. Indeed falsehood is bound to vanish.’
Quran 17:81
The Prophet Muhammad is undoubtly the most sucessful man in the world. How can an illiterate man who didnt seek such lvls of success for himself be able to achieve this. There obviously was a higher power helping him and educating him.
How can he be a liar and be evil....when he was known in society as the Truthful. A man who would give any materialistic belong to anyone who asked. A person so selfless..... definetly values the hereafter more than this world.
Hes honestly amazing. And its sad whats going on in France.
How can he be a liar and be evil....when he was known in society as the Truthful. A man who would give any materialistic belong to anyone who asked. A person so selfless..... definetly values the hereafter more than this world.
Hes honestly amazing. And its sad whats going on in France.