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It's hard arguing with someone who has zero ability to think spatially. This is why I plucked out this picture that you're now using for your reply. You just can't stop fucking with yourself
His stationary leg is tilting to his right. Even more so if he has to raise his leg to kick someone roughly 3/4 of his height in the face or at least above the shoulder. So this dude is not even kicking high enough because that is roughly a waist level kick. His foot has to be able to reach somewhat below his own ribcage then for him to mirror the kicking you're imagining Vergo is doing, and as the angle is maybe 100 degrees when he crosses legs, this dude in the picture needs to shift his leg more and raise it more. This means what you're seeing here is just a simple illustration of why you're wrong, because what you're imagining, it means his whole upper body will need to rotate even more and his foot will be fully pivoted. It will look like nothing what Vergo is doing becausde you're jsut that fucking dead wrong lol. You are basket case, my man (I don't think you have ever won, let alone "neg diffed" @nik87 I will check up on those debates because it can't be as bad as this, surely).
Mr turd flinging bonobo, this amounts to a left tilt because that is his left coatside.
which makes no sense with what you’re suggesting
Yeah and when they do that they do not do any positions that is like what Vergo is doing here, but your bonobo brain seemingly is unable to comprehend that
Vergo's starting position is not like the dude in the picture, so this is just something stupid you wrote, and we all do that sometimes, so no biggie.
By changing position on arrival you traded off nearly all momentum, so Vergo wouldn't have nearly any momentum from his launch to begin with. Just a pure kick really with his RIGHT ANKLE and that was all it took to break Sanjino
Yeah and you know what, some random dude in 1968 discovered that fosbury flops was the correct way to jump over high bars, and this is how people used to jump over high bars until fucking very recently, fucking late 60s lol
He was like "just jump with a huge arched back" which means you can lower your center of gravity and thus cover a higher surface by lowering the center of gravity. Why is it that people who were capable of understanding concepts like center of mass and physics to the point sending people to the moon, that there was no one who would try out this method of jumping this way that we take for granted now? The reason I think issimple: no one wanted to jump backward head first over a fucking bar. That's why. If people can miss something like that for idk fucking centuries, why should I hold a fucking manga community and video game producers to a higher standard? You tell me that
His stationary leg is tilting to his right. Even more so if he has to raise his leg to kick someone roughly 3/4 of his height in the face or at least above the shoulder. So this dude is not even kicking high enough because that is roughly a waist level kick. His foot has to be able to reach somewhat below his own ribcage then for him to mirror the kicking you're imagining Vergo is doing, and as the angle is maybe 100 degrees when he crosses legs, this dude in the picture needs to shift his leg more and raise it more. This means what you're seeing here is just a simple illustration of why you're wrong, because what you're imagining, it means his whole upper body will need to rotate even more and his foot will be fully pivoted. It will look like nothing what Vergo is doing becausde you're jsut that fucking dead wrong lol. You are basket case, my man (I don't think you have ever won, let alone "neg diffed" @nik87 I will check up on those debates because it can't be as bad as this, surely).
Mr turd flinging bonobo, this amounts to a left tilt because that is his left coatside.
which makes no sense with what you’re suggesting
Yeah and when they do that they do not do any positions that is like what Vergo is doing here, but your bonobo brain seemingly is unable to comprehend that
Vergo's starting position is not like the dude in the picture, so this is just something stupid you wrote, and we all do that sometimes, so no biggie.
By changing position on arrival you traded off nearly all momentum, so Vergo wouldn't have nearly any momentum from his launch to begin with. Just a pure kick really with his RIGHT ANKLE and that was all it took to break Sanjino
For Oda to clearly expect the readers to understand that Vergo changed to the right leg off-screen only to hit Sanji and then went back to the left (off-screen again) in spite of using the left leg both while preparing the attack and to break off the clash, it is amazing that only you got it the way he expected and thousands of readers and two companies adapting the manga failed miserably.
I mean, you are either a troll or someone who truly needs Vergo as a coping mechanism for whatever problem you have way more than we need to cope with a character who disappeared eight years ago and was completely subordinated to a subplot long closed, so I'll just let it be.
For the rest, this is all I have to say about your position in this thread:
I mean, you are either a troll or someone who truly needs Vergo as a coping mechanism for whatever problem you have way more than we need to cope with a character who disappeared eight years ago and was completely subordinated to a subplot long closed, so I'll just let it be.
For the rest, this is all I have to say about your position in this thread:
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Ask anyone from an asian country(India, Bangkok, etc.). We usually sit cross-legged on the ground like so:
So cross-legged sitters can do that bent leg position without any problems while standing.
So cross-legged sitters can do that bent leg position without any problems while standing.
It's because it is the right leg and that's the inside of the foot facing up lol. This is a crazy world we live in, brother
Irony?
Tell me if you are ready leaving your cave.
I know why you plucked out this picture: to destroy your dumbass even more because this stance clearly disproves what kind of garbage you spew.
Considering that everyone fucks with you on this thread, it's even more funny that you say that nonsense lol.
The thread itself is a huge metaphor to dump a load of shit straight onto your face, that's why you're freaking out here lmao.
At this position, it is possible to fully stretch your knee to aim at higher points, especially if the target is 70 cm smaller than you.
Sanji stopped Vergo's full momentum at that moment when he tried to strike Sanji in the middle of his movement but his leg was fractured in result.
Once again, can you show me exactly a stance how it would look like if someone attacked at the same manner like Vergo? If you are so sure about this stance, you sure can provide it with an illustration at least.
That dude is kicking high enough to hit a target 70 cm smaller than him and that's a bit above his waist, just like Vergo.
The difference is the angle of the perspective; that picture of that dude is a straight-on angle whilst Vergo's panel is a low angle shot which makes Vergo's left knee higher than it is but approximately around Sanji's shoulder.
You really have low levels of understanding perspectives but you proved your inability on other threads which isn't surprising. Except shittalking, what can you really offer in terms of evidence?
You are literally confused about the difference in perspectives.
Vergo's stance is no less higher than that dude's. Considering the fact that said dude bent left thigh quite high to twist his left knee at this stance to hit someone above his waist, he'd still perfectly aim at someone's shoulder 70 cm smaller than himself. In addition to the fact that the angle itself is left-focused, how exactly do you know that Vergo doesn't have the same stance?
Also, how exactly can you guess that the angle is maybe 100 degrees when the perspective is a low angle shot? I don't think your scaling is legit tbh.
Meanwhile, you thought that Vergo, instead of finishing his move, he suddenly stopped his movement and 'somehow' moved his right leg at this stance - how exactly was Vergo even able to KICK someone with this weird stance. He cannot build momentum and striking strength to KICK someone. That's anatomatically impossible.
Instead of spewing more confused doo doo and throwing a tantrum around you, you can start to illustrate Vergo's apparent stance about his "right leg".
It would be nice to see an illustration of the stance you suggested about Vergo's kick but I still see nothing.
Because you have nothing.
Wrong, I'm basing my argument on what I'm seeing and what the author intented.
You see an apparent trolling from Vergo when nothing was suggested otherwise, neither from Oda either. You imagine an idiotic stance and you cannot even illustrate said stance. Instead, you're spewing more diarrhea.
Which is irrelevant considering the fact that Vergo's kick was performed at a similar stance of this dude when Vergo couldn't fully stretch his leg to strike properly.
Vergo's whole upper body would have rotated more anyway if he finished his kick which makes your argument even more worth for the trash can.
Your words hold nothing more than luke warm air without backing up with evidence.
I'm fucking dead right.
Ofc I need more efforts, and actually far more research in terms of looking for evidence, whenever I debate with @nik87.
You are just a dude who fucks himself over and over again. Technically, I do not even need to crumble your little fanfiction since you have done that yourself when you posted the similar rl stance to Vergo.
As I said, the thread itself is supposed to meme you because you are that: a meme.
Yeah, that's what I tried to illustrate with the red marks, mr turd flinging bonobo.
Of course this doesn't make sense to you since your brain cannot comprehend that amount of information.
But don't worry, I still can request you a difficult task, specifically for you, to solve:
:cheers:
They do not weirdly twist their right leg at a stance which your orang utan brain seemingly gives you the illustrations to imagine about lol.
You cannot even find A SINGLE SIMILAR STANCE what's clearly supporting your little doo doo stuff. That sums it up perfectly lul.
Okay broken record kun, I don't want to read excuses, I want to see evidence.
Once again: Yet I am still waiting for this dude to gain his momentum with his leg, stops it mid-combat and then weirdly twists his right leg above the waist and then fracturing his right shin to continue the attack...
Can you offer such an illustration?
@Enma tried said stance but fractured his leg instead.
We all know that Vergo is a retard and that it isn't a coincidence that you see yourself into him but is there more relevant information?
"Just a pure kick with his RIGHT ANKLE", yeah how exactly does that look like I'm asking, you buffoon lmao.
Considering it's @critical mindset vs everyone, this might even be possible.
Tell me if you are ready leaving your cave.
I know why you plucked out this picture: to destroy your dumbass even more because this stance clearly disproves what kind of garbage you spew.
Considering that everyone fucks with you on this thread, it's even more funny that you say that nonsense lol.
The thread itself is a huge metaphor to dump a load of shit straight onto your face, that's why you're freaking out here lmao.
At this position, it is possible to fully stretch your knee to aim at higher points, especially if the target is 70 cm smaller than you.
Sanji stopped Vergo's full momentum at that moment when he tried to strike Sanji in the middle of his movement but his leg was fractured in result.
Once again, can you show me exactly a stance how it would look like if someone attacked at the same manner like Vergo? If you are so sure about this stance, you sure can provide it with an illustration at least.
That dude is kicking high enough to hit a target 70 cm smaller than him and that's a bit above his waist, just like Vergo.
The difference is the angle of the perspective; that picture of that dude is a straight-on angle whilst Vergo's panel is a low angle shot which makes Vergo's left knee higher than it is but approximately around Sanji's shoulder.
You really have low levels of understanding perspectives but you proved your inability on other threads which isn't surprising. Except shittalking, what can you really offer in terms of evidence?
You are literally confused about the difference in perspectives.
Vergo's stance is no less higher than that dude's. Considering the fact that said dude bent left thigh quite high to twist his left knee at this stance to hit someone above his waist, he'd still perfectly aim at someone's shoulder 70 cm smaller than himself. In addition to the fact that the angle itself is left-focused, how exactly do you know that Vergo doesn't have the same stance?
Also, how exactly can you guess that the angle is maybe 100 degrees when the perspective is a low angle shot? I don't think your scaling is legit tbh.
Meanwhile, you thought that Vergo, instead of finishing his move, he suddenly stopped his movement and 'somehow' moved his right leg at this stance - how exactly was Vergo even able to KICK someone with this weird stance. He cannot build momentum and striking strength to KICK someone. That's anatomatically impossible.
Instead of spewing more confused doo doo and throwing a tantrum around you, you can start to illustrate Vergo's apparent stance about his "right leg".
It would be nice to see an illustration of the stance you suggested about Vergo's kick but I still see nothing.
Because you have nothing.
Wrong, I'm basing my argument on what I'm seeing and what the author intented.
You see an apparent trolling from Vergo when nothing was suggested otherwise, neither from Oda either. You imagine an idiotic stance and you cannot even illustrate said stance. Instead, you're spewing more diarrhea.
Which is irrelevant considering the fact that Vergo's kick was performed at a similar stance of this dude when Vergo couldn't fully stretch his leg to strike properly.
Vergo's whole upper body would have rotated more anyway if he finished his kick which makes your argument even more worth for the trash can.
Your words hold nothing more than luke warm air without backing up with evidence.
I'm fucking dead right.
Ofc I need more efforts, and actually far more research in terms of looking for evidence, whenever I debate with @nik87.
You are just a dude who fucks himself over and over again. Technically, I do not even need to crumble your little fanfiction since you have done that yourself when you posted the similar rl stance to Vergo.
As I said, the thread itself is supposed to meme you because you are that: a meme.
Yeah, that's what I tried to illustrate with the red marks, mr turd flinging bonobo.
Of course this doesn't make sense to you since your brain cannot comprehend that amount of information.
But don't worry, I still can request you a difficult task, specifically for you, to solve:
:cheers:
They do not weirdly twist their right leg at a stance which your orang utan brain seemingly gives you the illustrations to imagine about lol.
You cannot even find A SINGLE SIMILAR STANCE what's clearly supporting your little doo doo stuff. That sums it up perfectly lul.
Okay broken record kun, I don't want to read excuses, I want to see evidence.
Once again: Yet I am still waiting for this dude to gain his momentum with his leg, stops it mid-combat and then weirdly twists his right leg above the waist and then fracturing his right shin to continue the attack...
Can you offer such an illustration?
@Enma tried said stance but fractured his leg instead.
We all know that Vergo is a retard and that it isn't a coincidence that you see yourself into him but is there more relevant information?
"Just a pure kick with his RIGHT ANKLE", yeah how exactly does that look like I'm asking, you buffoon lmao.
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Considering it's @critical mindset vs everyone, this might even be possible.
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It is impossible to be the left leg of VERGO.
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We have a similar example with very similar angles, which can be compared ... Acceleration + Pay-tan strength can be = acceleration + Strength of VERGO-SAN's left leg. It would be a simple movement with the right leg, the location with the arrow would be the movement, and the circled square would be the FOOT position.
Where sanji does not try to retaliate but to annul with AP his kick which is even worse.
You can see something, looking at PAY-TAN's knee, if he wanted to replicate what VERGO did with his leg, he would have to use his right leg and bend his knee casually to the Sanji's FOOT, something easy. Leaning on your left leg and doing this with your right leg, with a little tilt.
Something that would be impossible for his left leg if we notice the knee slope and, of course, the shape of the foot is different, in a nutshell it would break his knee.
If it were with your left leg, the result of the acceleration + Ap would be similar to this.
Another example is doflamingo blocking sanji.
If we look at his left knee it would be impossible for him to bend his knee to the point that it looks like he is using his right leg and with his shoe staying at the same angle.
But here he can easily tilt with the right. Something very similar to VERGO.
In the example of the image looking at sanji's shoe, for him to replicate what VERGO did, just make a movement with his leg to the left side so that his shoe is the same as VERGO's, this is something allowed by the right leg.
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We have a similar example with very similar angles, which can be compared ... Acceleration + Pay-tan strength can be = acceleration + Strength of VERGO-SAN's left leg. It would be a simple movement with the right leg, the location with the arrow would be the movement, and the circled square would be the FOOT position.
Where sanji does not try to retaliate but to annul with AP his kick which is even worse.
You can see something, looking at PAY-TAN's knee, if he wanted to replicate what VERGO did with his leg, he would have to use his right leg and bend his knee casually to the Sanji's FOOT, something easy. Leaning on your left leg and doing this with your right leg, with a little tilt.
Something that would be impossible for his left leg if we notice the knee slope and, of course, the shape of the foot is different, in a nutshell it would break his knee.
If it were with your left leg, the result of the acceleration + Ap would be similar to this.
But here he can easily tilt with the right. Something very similar to VERGO.
In the example of the image looking at sanji's shoe, for him to replicate what VERGO did, just make a movement with his leg to the left side so that his shoe is the same as VERGO's, this is something allowed by the right leg.
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It is impossible to be the left leg of VERGO.
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We have a similar example with very similar angles, which can be compared ... Acceleration + Pay-tan strength can be = acceleration + Strength of VERGO-SAN's left leg. It would be a simple movement with the right leg, the location with the arrow would be the movement, and the circled square would be the FOOT position.
Where sanji does not try to retaliate but to annul with AP his kick which is even worse.
You can see something, looking at PAY-TAN's knee, if he wanted to replicate what VERGO did with his leg, he would have to use his right leg and bend his knee casually to the Sanji's FOOT, something easy. Leaning on your left leg and doing this with your right leg, with a little tilt.
Something that would be impossible for his left leg if we notice the knee slope and, of course, the shape of the foot is different, in a nutshell it would break his knee.
If it were with your left leg, the result of the acceleration + Ap would be similar to this.
Another example is doflamingo blocking sanji.
If we look at his left knee it would be impossible for him to bend his knee to the point that it looks like he is using his right leg and with his shoe staying at the same angle.
But here he can easily tilt with the left. Something very similar to VERGO.
In the example of the image looking at sanji's shoe, for him to replicate what VERGO did, just make a movement with his leg to the left side so that his shoe is the same as VERGO's, this is something allowed by the right leg, but no from the right looking in a rear angle.
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We have a similar example with very similar angles, which can be compared ... Acceleration + Pay-tan strength can be = acceleration + Strength of VERGO-SAN's left leg. It would be a simple movement with the right leg, the location with the arrow would be the movement, and the circled square would be the FOOT position.
Where sanji does not try to retaliate but to annul with AP his kick which is even worse.
You can see something, looking at PAY-TAN's knee, if he wanted to replicate what VERGO did with his leg, he would have to use his right leg and bend his knee casually to the Sanji's FOOT, something easy. Leaning on your left leg and doing this with your right leg, with a little tilt.
Something that would be impossible for his left leg if we notice the knee slope and, of course, the shape of the foot is different, in a nutshell it would break his knee.
If it were with your left leg, the result of the acceleration + Ap would be similar to this.
But here he can easily tilt with the left. Something very similar to VERGO.
In the example of the image looking at sanji's shoe, for him to replicate what VERGO did, just make a movement with his leg to the left side so that his shoe is the same as VERGO's, this is something allowed by the right leg, but no from the right looking in a rear angle.
It is impossible to be the left leg of VERGO.
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We have a similar example with very similar angles, which can be compared ... Acceleration + Pay-tan strength can be = acceleration + Strength of VERGO-SAN's left leg. It would be a simple movement with the right leg, the location with the arrow would be the movement, and the circled square would be the FOOT position.
Where sanji does not try to retaliate but to annul with AP his kick which is even worse.
You can see something, looking at PAY-TAN's knee, if he wanted to replicate what VERGO did with his leg, he would have to use his right leg and bend his knee casually to the Sanji's FOOT, something easy. Leaning on your left leg and doing this with your right leg, with a little tilt.
Something that would be impossible for his left leg if we notice the knee slope and, of course, the shape of the foot is different, in a nutshell it would break his knee.
If it were with your left leg, the result of the acceleration + Ap would be similar to this.
Another example is doflamingo blocking sanji.
If we look at his left knee it would be impossible for him to bend his knee to the point that it looks like he is using his right leg and with his shoe staying at the same angle.
But here he can easily tilt with the right. Something very similar to VERGO.
In the example of the image looking at sanji's shoe, for him to replicate what VERGO did, just make a movement with his leg to the left side so that his shoe is the same as VERGO's, this is something allowed by the right leg.
1º
We have a similar example with very similar angles, which can be compared ... Acceleration + Pay-tan strength can be = acceleration + Strength of VERGO-SAN's left leg. It would be a simple movement with the right leg, the location with the arrow would be the movement, and the circled square would be the FOOT position.
Where sanji does not try to retaliate but to annul with AP his kick which is even worse.
You can see something, looking at PAY-TAN's knee, if he wanted to replicate what VERGO did with his leg, he would have to use his right leg and bend his knee casually to the Sanji's FOOT, something easy. Leaning on your left leg and doing this with your right leg, with a little tilt.
Something that would be impossible for his left leg if we notice the knee slope and, of course, the shape of the foot is different, in a nutshell it would break his knee.
If it were with your left leg, the result of the acceleration + Ap would be similar to this.
But here he can easily tilt with the right. Something very similar to VERGO.
In the example of the image looking at sanji's shoe, for him to replicate what VERGO did, just make a movement with his leg to the left side so that his shoe is the same as VERGO's, this is something allowed by the right leg.
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