Character Discussion "Kaido, the strongest pirate" - how valid are characters statements?
Oda has made it clear that Kaido is #1 on the list since his 796. That's why Luffy is fighting him now.
However, that doesn't guarantee he will win every 1 v. 1. If you think of their stats like
Kaido - 80 attack 90 defence
Mihawk - 95 attack 50 defence
Kaido's average is 85 while Mihawk's 72.5, but Mihawk can still beat him.
Oden was like this. Kaido's defence >>> Oden's defence, and we saw what happened
A pirate's strength is best measured in a war setting, fighting multiple people, like Whitebeard in Marineford. In a pirate war, Kaido > Mihawk, because of his skin and the ability to tolerate attacks like this
Mihawk can't handle those ^ attacks. But like Oden, that doesn't mean he can't beat Kaido 1 v. 1.
tldr: Kaido's defence will always keep his combat level the highest, but other characters have stronger attacks, and can still beat him.
However, that doesn't guarantee he will win every 1 v. 1. If you think of their stats like
Kaido - 80 attack 90 defence
Mihawk - 95 attack 50 defence
Kaido's average is 85 while Mihawk's 72.5, but Mihawk can still beat him.
Oden was like this. Kaido's defence >>> Oden's defence, and we saw what happened
A pirate's strength is best measured in a war setting, fighting multiple people, like Whitebeard in Marineford. In a pirate war, Kaido > Mihawk, because of his skin and the ability to tolerate attacks like this
Mihawk can't handle those ^ attacks. But like Oden, that doesn't mean he can't beat Kaido 1 v. 1.
tldr: Kaido's defence will always keep his combat level the highest, but other characters have stronger attacks, and can still beat him.
Oda has made it clear that Kaido is #1 on the list since his 796. That's why Luffy is fighting him now.
However, that doesn't guarantee he will win every 1 v. 1. If you think of their stats like
Kaido - 80 attack 90 defence
Mihawk - 95 attack 50 defence
Kaido's average is 85 while Mihawk's 72.5, but Mihawk can still beat him.
Oden was like this. Kaido's defence >>> Oden's defence, and we saw what happened
A pirate's strength is best measured in a war setting, fighting multiple people, like Whitebeard in Marineford. In a pirate war, Kaido > Mihawk, because of his skin and the ability to tolerate attacks like this
Mihawk can't handle those ^ attacks. But like Oden, that doesn't mean he can't beat Kaido 1 v. 1.
However, that doesn't guarantee he will win every 1 v. 1. If you think of their stats like
Kaido - 80 attack 90 defence
Mihawk - 95 attack 50 defence
Kaido's average is 85 while Mihawk's 72.5, but Mihawk can still beat him.
Oden was like this. Kaido's defence >>> Oden's defence, and we saw what happened
A pirate's strength is best measured in a war setting, fighting multiple people, like Whitebeard in Marineford. In a pirate war, Kaido > Mihawk, because of his skin and the ability to tolerate attacks like this
Mihawk can't handle those ^ attacks. But like Oden, that doesn't mean he can't beat Kaido 1 v. 1.
Not sure why you're telling me about pretending, since you're the one pretending to know about Blackbeard's powerlevel based off of a statement that has nothing to do with Blackbeard comparing Kaido to himself.
As far as Blackbeard is concerned, he already declared himself superior to Kaido:
So if you want me to take Blackbeard on his actual words and where he thinks he stands, he stands at the top of the world superior to Dragon/Gorosei/Kong/Admirals/Yonko/etc... back at Marineford. Are you willing to claim MF Blackbeard > Kaido??
Now if you want me to use actual context of the manga that's outside of character's personal comments about his or her strength..Kaido's hype still does not apply to Blackbeard, because he's a not a static character in terms of growth. He just like the rest of the Worst Generation grew over the two years.
The discussion here is not about whether Blackbeard is stronger than Kaido or not. The discussion is about the validity of Killer's statement regarding Kaido being the strongest. It's validity does not apply to Blackbeard, as he's somebody who has yet to show the world his full might.. But it does apply to Shanks/Big Mom as they have been on the seas showcasing their might for decades now. Now if it becomes known that Shanks has been holding back all along... the statement by Killer would become invalid for Shanks as well. Same for Big Mom.
As far as Blackbeard is concerned, he already declared himself superior to Kaido:
So if you want me to take Blackbeard on his actual words and where he thinks he stands, he stands at the top of the world superior to Dragon/Gorosei/Kong/Admirals/Yonko/etc... back at Marineford. Are you willing to claim MF Blackbeard > Kaido??
Now if you want me to use actual context of the manga that's outside of character's personal comments about his or her strength..Kaido's hype still does not apply to Blackbeard, because he's a not a static character in terms of growth. He just like the rest of the Worst Generation grew over the two years.
The discussion here is not about whether Blackbeard is stronger than Kaido or not. The discussion is about the validity of Killer's statement regarding Kaido being the strongest. It's validity does not apply to Blackbeard, as he's somebody who has yet to show the world his full might.. But it does apply to Shanks/Big Mom as they have been on the seas showcasing their might for decades now. Now if it becomes known that Shanks has been holding back all along... the statement by Killer would become invalid for Shanks as well. Same for Big Mom.
Oh gee, its been proven now that Base Kaido>> Dragon Kaido. Oden himself was wary of Kaido and tried to kill him while he was drunk/sleeping, that wariness came probably from when they first clashed in Odens castle. In which Human form Kaido was handling a bloodlusted Oden perfectly fine.
Dragon form Kaido was getting ragdolled by G3 luffy and getting ''Worked'' by the scabbards, Oden managing to greatly hurt that form is a great feat. But if they started the fight with Kaido in human form, the fight wouldve gone differently.
And nevermind all of that, his current statuts and title remains what was shown and stated and nothing really disagrees with that.
You being in denial is not the author's problem.
Oh right i forgot you were that dude that likes spouting the G4 being top tier AP nonsense, we've seen what top tier AP is and what it does to FMs and YC, luffy's ''Top tier AP'' sure took a while to take down Kata or even Doffy.
Dragon form Kaido was getting ragdolled by G3 luffy and getting ''Worked'' by the scabbards, Oden managing to greatly hurt that form is a great feat. But if they started the fight with Kaido in human form, the fight wouldve gone differently.
And nevermind all of that, his current statuts and title remains what was shown and stated and nothing really disagrees with that.
You being in denial is not the author's problem.
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Oh right i forgot you were that dude that likes spouting the G4 being top tier AP nonsense, we've seen what top tier AP is and what it does to FMs and YC, luffy's ''Top tier AP'' sure took a while to take down Kata or even Doffy.
Whitebeard called scrub pirates as dangerous people. Does that mean Whitebeard is admitting inferiority to scrubs?
Big Mom called Kaido "that THING", but was still confident in whooping his ass.
Garp called Whitebeard "the ruler of the seas", still had the confidence to whoop Whitebeard's ass.
Furthermore, you and the other people here are misrepresenting the context of Blackbeard's statement. What Blackbeard mentioned Kaido as is what he's known as , he's known as "the Dreaded Monster", Big Mom is known as "the mad empress". These are not Blackbeard's opinions, he simply mentioned the epithets they're renowned as.
Otherwise I can just say some dumbshit like Blackbeard considers Big Mom as an emperor, but he only considers Kaido as a monster.. An emperor > a mere monster...lol.
Big Mom called Kaido "that THING", but was still confident in whooping his ass.
Garp called Whitebeard "the ruler of the seas", still had the confidence to whoop Whitebeard's ass.
Furthermore, you and the other people here are misrepresenting the context of Blackbeard's statement. What Blackbeard mentioned Kaido as is what he's known as , he's known as "the Dreaded Monster", Big Mom is known as "the mad empress". These are not Blackbeard's opinions, he simply mentioned the epithets they're renowned as.
Otherwise I can just say some dumbshit like Blackbeard considers Big Mom as an emperor, but he only considers Kaido as a monster.. An emperor > a mere monster...lol.
I'm split on Mihawk.
In the world of One Piece, a pirate is considered anybody who has a jolly roger, Mihawk hasn't shown a Jolly Roger. He also hasn't been shown doing any piracy, him fucking up Don Krieg for example was him doing his job as a World Government employee.
It could, but it could also not. I wouldn't be surprised if it did though.
In the world of One Piece, a pirate is considered anybody who has a jolly roger, Mihawk hasn't shown a Jolly Roger. He also hasn't been shown doing any piracy, him fucking up Don Krieg for example was him doing his job as a World Government employee.
It could, but it could also not. I wouldn't be surprised if it did though.