Powers & Abilities Pre-Wano Luffy CoA vs Zoro CoA
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Casual fallacy
We have no clue what grade that sword is or how Kaido actually cut it
Luffy’s immunity to blunt damage is almost irrelevant when comparing his haki to Zoro’s as Zoro doesn’t use his body to block blunt attacks, it’s just that we’d need to equalize these variable to pinpoint haki hardness between the 2
I’d also argue that using air to add to muscle mass isnt a very big buff, the air used with gear 4 provide a different mechanic with rubber all together that strengthens Luffy
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I’m not referring to the flying slash, I can find the panel where they face off if you’d like, but there’s a panel where their swords meet
We have no clue what grade that sword is or how Kaido actually cut it
Luffy’s immunity to blunt damage is almost irrelevant when comparing his haki to Zoro’s as Zoro doesn’t use his body to block blunt attacks, it’s just that we’d need to equalize these variable to pinpoint haki hardness between the 2
I’d also argue that using air to add to muscle mass isnt a very big buff, the air used with gear 4 provide a different mechanic with rubber all together that strengthens Luffy
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I’m not referring to the flying slash, I can find the panel where they face off if you’d like, but there’s a panel where their swords meet
Since people are bringing up science, they should realize that the actual edge of a katana is martensite steel - which is hard, yet brittle. Meaning that Zoro checking the edge of his katana after destroying a mountain is actually reasonable - assuming katana forging in One Piece is similar to IRL. The fact that most katana in One Piece seem to have Hamon lines and 3 distinct parts points to katana forging being similar to IRL.
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this is plot. apparently.
while this is not. apparently.
Luffy got cut by Doffys strings all the time.
what a lucky break that the one attack that could have permanently ended Luffy all of a sudden did not manage break through.
almost as if Luffy was protected by devine intervention here.
hmm, thats not the write word now is it?
while this is not. apparently.
Luffy got cut by Doffys strings all the time.
what a lucky break that the one attack that could have permanently ended Luffy all of a sudden did not manage break through.
almost as if Luffy was protected by devine intervention here.
hmm, thats not the write word now is it?
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then call this plot for whatever I care.
how could Luffy magically protect his tummy from getting skewered, but was completely unable to protect other body parts from minor attacks.
its the same thing at the end of the day. plot.
if you want to use plot as an excuse for 1 thing then at least apply the same reasoning to other instances aswell.
its either all plot or none is.
casual Cracker slash > God Thread confirmed lmao
how could Luffy magically protect his tummy from getting skewered, but was completely unable to protect other body parts from minor attacks.
its the same thing at the end of the day. plot.
if you want to use plot as an excuse for 1 thing then at least apply the same reasoning to other instances aswell.
its either all plot or none is.
casual Cracker slash > God Thread confirmed lmao
You said luffy should take notes from pica and vergo.
There’s a difference between g4 and something like basic full body armament. Law commented on it in dressrosa. And it’s evident by the fact that someone like doffy{who was toying with law} couldn’t even pierce or hurt g4 armament haki. Law one shot vergo. G4 is a different story entirely and zoro has shown No haki on that level
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Pretty sure there was none that pierced gear 4. but show it anyway. Zoros haki is nowhere e close to g4
There’s a difference between g4 and something like basic full body armament. Law commented on it in dressrosa. And it’s evident by the fact that someone like doffy{who was toying with law} couldn’t even pierce or hurt g4 armament haki. Law one shot vergo. G4 is a different story entirely and zoro has shown No haki on that level
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Not true, I can remember three instances where Doffy broke through Luffy's hardening
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There is no difference between Luffy's G4 CoA application and FBH like Pica/Vergo do, except on Luffy not being complete body.
The difference is in the bodies, Luffy's wants to expand while Pica's and Vergo's doesnt, because they didnt blow air into themselves...
Luffy's haki is same in base, g2, g3 and g4. Haki doesnt get better through gears. He spends more of it in G4, that's all.
The difference is in the bodies, Luffy's wants to expand while Pica's and Vergo's doesnt, because they didnt blow air into themselves...
Luffy's haki is same in base, g2, g3 and g4. Haki doesnt get better through gears. He spends more of it in G4, that's all.
Because its a coa feat
Also we don't know if age effects haki and chinjao was definitely a high tier in his prime.
Zoro and pica both said the winner of their final clash was based on coa. Unless both dont know what their talking about.
We dont know if law was using haki or not cause armament can also be invisible. Tho weve seen him defend himself from stronger attacks as well so.
Nothing puts picas haki in the same range as doffys unless knowing full body automatically makes it stronger than people that dont have it. Something we know isnt true
Like i said crackers coa couldn't hurt him until he used his real body...
Because im talkin about base luffy
Kata and luffy's base armament wasnt portrayed stronger either way
Also we don't know if age effects haki and chinjao was definitely a high tier in his prime.
Zoro and pica both said the winner of their final clash was based on coa. Unless both dont know what their talking about.
We dont know if law was using haki or not cause armament can also be invisible. Tho weve seen him defend himself from stronger attacks as well so.
Nothing puts picas haki in the same range as doffys unless knowing full body automatically makes it stronger than people that dont have it. Something we know isnt true
Like i said crackers coa couldn't hurt him until he used his real body...
Because im talkin about base luffy
Kata and luffy's base armament wasnt portrayed stronger either way
G4 increases his defence to both blunt as well as cutting attacks. Besides, Doffy's athlete thread is a blunt kick followed by strings, not a piercing attack. Doffy's kick bounces off.
How will Luffy's hardening magically get better just by blowing air in his muscles, please explain? It makes negative amounts of sense, haki comes from the spirit, not from the muscles.
I will prove to you that Luffy's hardening does not get better in G4.
1. Base Luffy, using hardening, clashes with Katakuri's Block Mochi fist and hurts his hand, showing Kata's superiority:
2. Luffy, later on, goes G4 and clashes fists with Kata's block mochi and hurts his hand again:
So you see, Luffy's hardening does not get better by simply blowing air in his muscles. G4's superior defence is due to the combination of his hardening and his rubber properties, as Doffy explains.
We have seen similar examples such as the above where Kata's block mochi combines hardening and his mochi, boosting his hardness.
And also Jinbei's shark skin armament that he used to block Cognac.
How will Luffy's hardening magically get better just by blowing air in his muscles, please explain? It makes negative amounts of sense, haki comes from the spirit, not from the muscles.
I will prove to you that Luffy's hardening does not get better in G4.
1. Base Luffy, using hardening, clashes with Katakuri's Block Mochi fist and hurts his hand, showing Kata's superiority:
2. Luffy, later on, goes G4 and clashes fists with Kata's block mochi and hurts his hand again:
So you see, Luffy's hardening does not get better by simply blowing air in his muscles. G4's superior defence is due to the combination of his hardening and his rubber properties, as Doffy explains.
We have seen similar examples such as the above where Kata's block mochi combines hardening and his mochi, boosting his hardness.
And also Jinbei's shark skin armament that he used to block Cognac.