Sorry but if you think Pica is stronger than Vergo, even with the perfect set up logistically for his ability that the city was, I don't know what to tell you. Doflamingo > Vergo > Rosinate > Trebol > Pica > Diamante
And everyone who helps the strawhats defeat the beast pirates this arc are allies/friendly rivals, which is no different than the grand fleet tbh, except they are equals and not underlings.
Because Zoro is a shounen anime character, and I don't know if this is the only anime you watch, but in shounen anime, there is a power progression. I'm not saying that Zoro won't eventually surpass King, but not yet.
Holdem > Urashima > Senor Pink
Sanji literally with his raid suit struggled with page one, but only after abusing invisibility. Page One arguably had the edge over Sanji before he spammed invisibility.
Also what even is your argument, that nami is going to beat kaidou cuz we don't expect it? That's not how anything works. When has oda ever come weirdly out of power scale like that? Luffy clearly was built up as having the capabilities of defeating crocodile, zoro was clearly set up for defeating daz bones, sanji was clearly set up for fighting bon clay, etc.
Headliners literally have only lost to the luffy, jinbei, zoro, and sanji so far.
"Oda isn't wasting time on headliners", you say when holdem literally had a whole short story arc about him where he faced luffy.
Like your argument is literally "I think nami should beat jack, and I think it'd be cool, so nami is going to defeat jack". You have no actual argument.
Mihawk literally hasn't fought shanks for 12+ years. Shanks has been a yonkou for 6 years.
Big Mom isn't a swordsman, she is a hax devil fruit using brawler who has a sword as one of her creations and said sword fights for her. Like your literal argument just means mihawk can probably beat napoleon in a fight, which like, isn't confirmed, but sure, I believe that, mihawk could probably defeat napoleon.
Kaidou one hit someone who is Katakuri leveled while in base.
Mihawk got stalemated by Vista and had his attack no sold by Jozu.
It's night and day, Kaidou would one hit Mihawk.
And everyone who helps the strawhats defeat the beast pirates this arc are allies/friendly rivals, which is no different than the grand fleet tbh, except they are equals and not underlings.
Because Zoro is a shounen anime character, and I don't know if this is the only anime you watch, but in shounen anime, there is a power progression. I'm not saying that Zoro won't eventually surpass King, but not yet.
Holdem > Urashima > Senor Pink
Sanji literally with his raid suit struggled with page one, but only after abusing invisibility. Page One arguably had the edge over Sanji before he spammed invisibility.
Also what even is your argument, that nami is going to beat kaidou cuz we don't expect it? That's not how anything works. When has oda ever come weirdly out of power scale like that? Luffy clearly was built up as having the capabilities of defeating crocodile, zoro was clearly set up for defeating daz bones, sanji was clearly set up for fighting bon clay, etc.
Headliners literally have only lost to the luffy, jinbei, zoro, and sanji so far.
"Oda isn't wasting time on headliners", you say when holdem literally had a whole short story arc about him where he faced luffy.
Like your argument is literally "I think nami should beat jack, and I think it'd be cool, so nami is going to defeat jack". You have no actual argument.
Mihawk literally hasn't fought shanks for 12+ years. Shanks has been a yonkou for 6 years.
Big Mom isn't a swordsman, she is a hax devil fruit using brawler who has a sword as one of her creations and said sword fights for her. Like your literal argument just means mihawk can probably beat napoleon in a fight, which like, isn't confirmed, but sure, I believe that, mihawk could probably defeat napoleon.
Kaidou one hit someone who is Katakuri leveled while in base.
Mihawk got stalemated by Vista and had his attack no sold by Jozu.
It's night and day, Kaidou would one hit Mihawk.
Zoro needs a swordsman fight. Everybody was waiting for that for a long time. I don't really care about Zoro fighting Kaido or not but I just need Zoro to go all out against a swordsman imo.
In fact, Zoro still needs to defeat Fujitora, Shiryu and Mihawk. It is pretty safe to infer he will fight at least two of these guys.
So I would not mind personally if he fought a swordsman later on, and not now cause it has been a long time.
It doesn't matter which top executive is stronger, Zoro still got a top executive, contrary to your statement:
"but robin and co weren't fighting the strongest people that arc"
It's different because Luffy's entire crew is there and Kaido's roster of top guys are eight as opposed to Doflamingo's thirteen.
This detail you're condescending me with is nice and all, but where does it prove Zoro beating King this arc won't happen?
You mean like how Sanji beat Jabra after struggling with Blueno and Chopper beating a guy ALMOST as strong as Blueno in one arc?
My argument is Luffy gets Kaido, Zoro and Sanji get the Disasters, and the weaker six get the Tobi Roppo even though they seem out of their league because that's Oda's pattern.
So far, the M4 neg diffed the Headliners and haven't given us the impression they'd be too much for the weaker six. Elevating Sheepshead and Holdem above Giolla and Senor Pink doesn't sell us on them being "difficult battles" for Brook and Franky.
Headliners aren't important enough for match-up chapters because Headliners aren't the top guys. Holdem hasn't been relevant since Act 1. Sheepshead hasn't been relevant since Zou Arc.
No, my argument is Nami gets Ulti because Ulti is one of the weaker top guys. My stance is backed up by patterns the manga has displayed in the past.
However, Mihawk remains the World's Strongest Swordsman and Shanks is a swordsman.
If Big Mom fights with a sword, she is a swordsman regardless if her sword is sentient or not. She clashed evenly with Kaido's club with Napoleon, so is Napoleon stronger than Katakuri or is Big Mom a swordsman?
Kaido struggled with Big Mom for days who lost to Queen and Jimbei, AND Jimbei with Robin. Cracker "no sold" attacks that made Kaido's eyes roll white.
You really want to go this route?
"but robin and co weren't fighting the strongest people that arc"
It's different because Luffy's entire crew is there and Kaido's roster of top guys are eight as opposed to Doflamingo's thirteen.
This detail you're condescending me with is nice and all, but where does it prove Zoro beating King this arc won't happen?
You mean like how Sanji beat Jabra after struggling with Blueno and Chopper beating a guy ALMOST as strong as Blueno in one arc?
My argument is Luffy gets Kaido, Zoro and Sanji get the Disasters, and the weaker six get the Tobi Roppo even though they seem out of their league because that's Oda's pattern.
So far, the M4 neg diffed the Headliners and haven't given us the impression they'd be too much for the weaker six. Elevating Sheepshead and Holdem above Giolla and Senor Pink doesn't sell us on them being "difficult battles" for Brook and Franky.
Headliners aren't important enough for match-up chapters because Headliners aren't the top guys. Holdem hasn't been relevant since Act 1. Sheepshead hasn't been relevant since Zou Arc.
No, my argument is Nami gets Ulti because Ulti is one of the weaker top guys. My stance is backed up by patterns the manga has displayed in the past.
However, Mihawk remains the World's Strongest Swordsman and Shanks is a swordsman.
If Big Mom fights with a sword, she is a swordsman regardless if her sword is sentient or not. She clashed evenly with Kaido's club with Napoleon, so is Napoleon stronger than Katakuri or is Big Mom a swordsman?
Kaido struggled with Big Mom for days who lost to Queen and Jimbei, AND Jimbei with Robin. Cracker "no sold" attacks that made Kaido's eyes roll white.
You really want to go this route?
