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Pre-Skip Sanji had sauce.



















Sanji still has good moments and i specifically think post Wano he is going back to what he was pre-ts, the pervy gags were toned down, quite like pre-ts and he even seems cute doing it recently im not ngl, and everything else seems to be getting on point, i think Sanji is set in for absolute greatness that is gonna make even his pre-ts self look pale in comparison... i hope

But the post timeskip flanderization is sad tho
 
Pre-Skip Sanji had sauce.
More sauce.














God pre timeskip art is so clean. Even though current attacks are much stronger that anti manner kick course looks insane.
Thriller Bark in particular is amazing in colour.


Post ts Sanji could be just as cool if Oda really tried, like I said before the only issue with post ts Sanji is Oda exaggerates the pervert/chivalry gags too much
Sanji still has good moments and i specifically think post Wano he is going back to what he was pre-ts, the pervy gags were toned down, quite like pre-ts and he even seems cute doing it recently im not ngl, and everything else seems to be getting on point, i think Sanji is set in for absolute greatness that is gonna make even his pre-ts self look pale in comparison... i hope

But the post timeskip flanderization is sad tho
I think it's taken Oda a long time to strike the right balance post-skip, and it actually looks like he's been actively trying to make up for lost time.
 
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Asked this question in the ‘Is Loki Stronger than Zoro & Sanji’ thread but will ask here. How do y’all generally feel about the potential of Loki joining the crew & how would it change your expectations for how strong you expect Sanji to get this arc given how strong Loki is?
Not certain if Loki will join but it's not impossible since he gives me heavy Zoro and Franky vibes in a way. But if he joins I think Sanji and Zoro would obviously still be below him since they're not ready for that level yet. By the end of Elbaf they'll only be above the old legends, Loki is far above their paygrade.
 
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RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Asked this question in the ‘Is Loki Stronger than Zoro & Sanji’ thread but will ask here. How do y’all generally feel about the potential of Loki joining the crew & how would it change your expectations for how strong you expect Sanji to get this arc given how strong Loki is?
I don’t think Loki will join at all
 
Mot certain if Loki will join buy it's not impossible since he gives me heavy Zoro and Franky vibes in a way. But if he joins I think Sanji and Zoro would obviously still be below him since they're not ready for that level yet. By the end of Elbaf they'll only be above the old legends, Loki is far above their paygrade.
Yup not sure why exactly (maybe it’s just his vibe) but feels very Franky like. Personally leaning strongly in favor of him joining. Like the character for 1 but he’s giving very strong SH vibes in a way neither Yamato or even Jinbe gave off. In agreement with you that he’s most likely stronger than those 2 but I don’t think he’s as strong as most people think as he feels likes a growing character to me and is only just 21 in human years so Zoro & Sanji’s peer. Reckon he’s weaker than Luffy & comparable to the old legends which won’t be too steep for Zoro & Sanji to surpass or at least match this arc with significant power ups
 
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Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Asked this question in the ‘Is Loki Stronger than Zoro & Sanji’ thread but will ask here. How do y’all generally feel about the potential of Loki joining the crew & how would it change your expectations for how strong you expect Sanji to get this arc given how strong Loki is?
Would be fun to have him - we need some more interesting characters in the crew to reshape the dynamics.

odds of joining him? Negligible


But there is one thing about him - him being cast out and Luffy asking him to join out of blue do mirrors Brook's incident to some extent.

So, it's not entirely impossible for Oda to find ways to make him join if he does something about his size
 
Would be fun to have him - we need some more interesting characters in the crew to reshape the dynamics.

odds of joining him? Negligible
I agree ^^. Seeing a lot of folks saying it’s unlikely he joins. Why do you think it’s negligible, Is it because of his perceived strength?

But there is one thing about him - him being cast out and Luffy asking him to join out of blue do mirrors Brook's incident to some extent.

So, it's not entirely impossible for Oda to find ways to make him join if he does something about his size
Yup those are pretty strong reasons in favor of him joining. Not to mention he’s pretty rare & unique even amongst the giants. His age also really sticks out to me. I mean what are the odds that him being Zoro & Sanji’s age is a coincidence?
With regards to his size, I wrote about it in the thread for the latest chapter but will re-iterate here ^^.

One of the characteristic things about Loki in Norse mythology is his transformation ability which enabled him to shape-shift so Oda could very well draw a connection here and he could easily do so via a mythical Zoan.

Mythical Zoans all have some sort of special ability which are quite diverse as well. Yamato can control ice, Kaido can use fire, Marco had healing flames, Kiringham can control dreams so Loki’s abilities could be more transformative.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
I agree ^^. Seeing a lot of folks saying it’s unlikely he joins. Why do you think it’s negligible, Is it because of his perceived strength?


Yup those are pretty strong reasons in favor of him joining. Not to mention he’s pretty rare & unique even amongst the giants. His age also really sticks out to me. I mean what are the odds that him being Zoro & Sanji’s age is a coincidence?
With regards to his size, I wrote about it in the thread for the latest chapter but will re-iterate here ^^.

One of the characteristic things about Loki in Norse mythology is his transformation ability which enabled him to shape-shift so Oda could very well draw a connection here and he could easily do so via a mythical Zoan.

Mythical Zoans all have some sort of special ability which are quite diverse as well. Yamato can control ice, Kaido can use fire, Marco had healing flames, Kiringham can control dreams so Loki’s abilities could be more transformative.
Yeah! A mythical zoan could solve size concerns and I do feel we will get an idea of oda intentions when we will see Loki's df.


His df should involve some sort of shape shifting ability to make him fit onboard.


Another concern is Loki is actually a prince of the Kingdom. He will get redeemed and recognised by Elbaph in the end.

He's most likely tied to Elbaph journey and rise of Elbaph.

So, unless he abandons this and leave reign in hands of his brother and seek adventure on seas, I don't see him sailing with SHs.


This is important because for Loki to travel with SHs, his dream or goal should somewhat aligns with Luffy's
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SH is full now

only Vivi will really join EOS maybe

Carrot Yamato and Loki won’t join

BB crew is 10 ale SH is 10 right now too (Ao won’t fight a Straw Hat)

Will be an ally later but won’t fully join
But thing which works in Loki favor is Rayan says he won't join.


And, history tells us -


"On Land, Sea and air, to win...always bet opposite to Rayan"
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Yeah! A mythical zoan could solve size concerns and I do feel we will get an idea of oda intentions when we will see Loki's df.


His df should involve some sort of shape shifting ability to make him fit onboard.


Another concern is Loki is actually a prince of the Kingdom. He will get redeemed and recognised by Elbaph in the end.

He's most likely tied to Elbaph journey and rise of Elbaph.

So, unless he abandons this and leave reign in hands of his brother and seek adventure on seas, I don't see him sailing with SHs.


This is important because for Loki to travel with SHs, his dream or goal should somewhat aligns with Luffy's
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But thing which works in Loki favor is Rayan says he won't join.


And, history tells us -


"On Land, Sea and air, to win...always bet opposite to Rayan"
I’m always right and it’s my burden

 
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