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come to think of it, pre-timeskip was weak as hell yet mihawk with all the hype couldn't do anything significant, I mean he already had the WSS title and was just mere average in the bunch back at marine Ford

WW is clearly not Jinbe's final arc opponent. Jimbe seriously underrated... absolute beast

Safe to say the SHP will all finally get a good fight and improve massively this arc, that's really cool and interesting to see them pushed to the limit.....

Write your reply... you gotto be kidding.... when did an attack being dodged become a DF limit ????

what limit are you preview to about his DF???

interesting question mmmm...

it's better to ignore him lmao

what in my post makes you suggest that I'm implying kidd and Law are mere scrub to calamaties... unless you think they also need 10mins in the middle of a fight lol regardless, this is getting pointless arguing with you if you can't understand that Luffy without doubt is stronger than any YC atm...

I'm implying Luffy is highly nerfed irritatingly by Oda and it doesn't make any sense when he can progressively go through fights rather than being reckless in fights and getting saved every freaking time

you are evading the question and the condition attached to it. it's about a fair 1v1 fight with no outside interferance

Is it me or you completely dont wanna understand. Again, nobody doubts luffy winning these fights, the question still remains, is Luffy winning in a 1v1 without help???

he is the MC, he won against Kata even when he got no business wining that fight... he wins both fight imo but that's after someone protects him for 10miins in the middle of the fight yet again after getting exhausted from g4 unless ofcos you think he no diff them in g4

we both know current Luffy is nerfed as hell as well... from how he was using g4 casually earlier on in the arc, it was assumed he could actually last in it finally but no, instead of using lower gears and progressing through a fight, he recklessly goes into g4 mode and becomes helpless right in...

you really missing the point, nobody is doubting Luffy's strength whatsoever, he barely got out of all those fights cos he gets nerfed after using his g4 mode which requires him to be assisted in a 1v1 fight. the question is, can he really beat them in a fair 1v1 fight, no intruder protecting...

I totally agree it doesn't make sense to use g4 and get nerfed few minutes after but it is what it is... he casually used g4 this arc against vets and fodders... he goes into the g4 mode pretty quick oflate

current Luffy can't last 30 minutes in g4, so you mean he is one shotting all these guys practically

Luffy had help in all these fights... that's basically the point really....can he do it without help? 1612697288 so you basically saying he is going to land all these attacks every single time he throws it in a fight. Mind you, Kaido hardly dodges... pretty sure top tiers can dodge most of...

that's fair enough

he used g4 casually against vets and fodders this arc alone so I doubt

don't forget that Kaido hardly dodges any attack, other high tiers would most def dodge most of it.... take Cracker for instance, Luffy wasnt landing any attack on him for most of the fight....Kaido is different, he invited these attacks... he can easily Dodge most of them