General & Others Balance of Powers of the Marines, Yonko and Shichibukai

Uncle Van

Taxes Are a Sickness
#61
Them being low on man power suggests that they aren't as militarily supreme as your making them out to be.
They are spread throughout the world dealing with multiple incidents at once.....
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If this is the case, then why do the Marines freak out so much about Yonko teaming up? It would make no difference according to your interpretation
Read the thread cause clearly you didn't.
 
#64
The alliance of the Marines with the Shichibukai was formed over 11 years ago.
Then there was no Shanks and half of the emperors' crew were very young lol
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What's the context? Sengoku says bluntly that he did not expect the alliance between Kaido and BM. Koby says bluntly that the Marines expected that pirates destroy each other.

What are you writing about?
 
#70
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What does that have the to do with Garp's statement?
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The Marines and the Shichibukai form an alliance against the Yonko. When they formed the alliance, there were 3 yonko. It turns out that the navy and shichibukai cannot be equal to 4 yonko. It turns out that the yonko union is not taken into account.

Or will you start to prove to me now that Shanks was also taken into account then when he was not yonko?
 
#71
They are spread throughout the world dealing with multiple incidents at once.....
Sure, they function normally, but they don't typically deal with much big stuff, like a direct confrontation with an emperor. Its mostly minor stuff, and they are more than willing to redirect forces to do what they need.

They don't typically deal with multiple major incidents at the same time.
 

Uncle Van

Taxes Are a Sickness
#72
Sure, they function normally, but they don't typically deal with much big stuff, like a direct confrontation with an emperor. Its mostly minor stuff, and they are more than willing to redirect forces to do what they need.

They don't typically deal with multiple major incidents at the same time.
Absolutely. Every major incident is a possible loss of resources. Dealing with WB caused 2 other Emperors to make a move. Dealing with even a single emperor requires a shit ton of preparation and anything can go wrong(like Luffy's little group causing massive damage to BM's empire).

We even learned in Ace Novel that the reason the Marines freak out about even the smallest crews cause of their potential to join an emperor. Marined can throw down if they need to, but they definitely dont want to.
 
#73
Kaido's Crew is actually pretty young, The Gifters Jack and The Siblings are all new additions to the crew, and we don't know when Who's Who and Sasaki joined.

20 years ago he only had 1000 foot soldiers, Queen King and the Numbers. It's a big reason to why he allied with Orochi in the first place.

Wouldn't be surprised if he only became a Yonko 10 years ago
 
#74
Kaido's Crew is actually pretty young, The Gifters Jack and The Siblings are all new additions to the crew, and we don't know when Who's Who and Sasaki joined.

20 years ago he only had 1000 foot soldiers, Queen King and the Numbers. It's a big reason to why he allied with Orochi in the first place.

Wouldn't be surprised if he only became a Yonko 10 years ago
I mean we don't know how old is King.
Queen looks old honestly.

Kaido himself is a mystery, he looks like someone who has lived for many decades.

The strongest members ain't young but of course most crew members might be on the other hand.
 
#76
The balance works as long as the yonko are not allied.
This.

Which is the reason they don't want Yonko to be allies and they send their forces to stop Shanks from meeting WB because they afraid they would join forces.

I still don't know how people can actually believe Marine forces + Shichibukai can counter/match 4 Yonko if they fight at the same time.

People who believe this must be consist of incredibly biased mihawk supporters and akainu supporters. Otherwise its impossible to believe that.

Non-Yonko BB fought FA Sengoku + Garp with no problem.

Yonko underlings like Marco, Jozu and Beckman equally fought or stopped Admirals alone.

Mid level commanders like Izo + Fossa + Jiru + Haruta + Namur + Kingdew + Blenheim passed through Admiral Kizaru and they said 1 Admiral can't stop them when they work as a team.

Mid level Yonko commander Rakuyo attacked Kizaru and didn't lose.

If Admirals have problem with Yonko underlings, how can an objective person believe the Marines can match 4 Yonko and their underlings at the same time. Even if a miracle happens and 3 Admirals + 1 FA individually matches with healthy 4 Yonkos who won't have heart attacks, who will match with Yonko underlings like Marco, Jozu, Vista, Beckman, Katakuri, Cracker, Smoothie, King, Queen and Jack?

Vice-admirals can't even match with mid tier YCs like Daifuku, Oven, Snack, Whos who, X-Drake etc. They would get fodderized by top commanders. Even Shichibukai can't save them. Mihawk couldn't pass Jozu, Doflamingo loses to any top commander like Marco or Beckman or Katakuri. 4 Yonko steamrolls Marines + Shichibukai if they fight.

If Marines + Shichibukai still had advantage against 2 Yonko, they wouldn't stop fighting when 4 billion bounty Yonko Shanks came to stop the war when they had still trouble with Marco + non-Yonko BB.
Jimbei joined the shichibukai 11 years ago.

Shanks became a yonko 6 years ago.
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Shichibukai were established before 4 Yonko with Shanks joining the 3 Yonko or someone was Yonko before Shanks and Shanks dethroned that previous Yonko which is a low possibility.

Marines already begging help from Shichibukai against 3 Yonko (unless you believe there is another Yonko before Shanks).
 
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