Future Events Blackbeard Pirates vs Strawhat Pirate Matchups

Which matchups do you think will happen

  • Nami vs Catarina Devon

  • Nami vs Lafitte

  • Nami vs Vasco Shot

  • Sanji vs Avalo Pizarro

  • Sanji vs Sanjuan Wolf

  • Robin vs Catarina Devon

  • Robin vs Sanjuan Wolf

  • Franky vs Vasco Shot

  • Franky vs Sanjuan Wolf


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Not happening.

  • Lafitte is the Chief of Staff of the Blackbeard Pirates.
  • Lafitte was reintroduced alongside Shiryuu.
  • Laffitte appears to look down on Burgess.

Lafitte is far too strong for Nami.
By that logic all BBP are too strong for Nami AND Usopp so they should hope they can defeat Doc Q's horse.

Doesn't work like that.

You are forgetting Nami also got a power up in form of Zeus lighting that can chase an opponent, and who knows what she gets later on to complement that
 
My list until further notice.

First 4 VS Titans 2 to 5
  • Zoro VS Shiryu (2)
  • Nami VS Lafitte (5)
  • Usopp VS Auger (3)
  • Sanji VS Pizarro (4)
Second 4 VS Titans 6 to 9
  • Chopper VS Doc Q (9)
  • Robin VS Devon (6)
  • Franky VS Wolf (7)
  • Brook VS Vasco (8)
Postskip Two VS First & Last Titan
  • Jimbei VS Burgess (1)
  • Final Straw Hat VS Final Titan (10)
Swap Lafitte and pizarro.

Jinbe vs Moriah
Sabo or Yamato vs Burgess
 
At first i thought that but there is this dynamic to don't get along with each other between zoro-Sanji's rivals and i have the feeling that burguess and Shiryu have that
Hyouzou and Wadatsumi didn't have that dynamic. Neither did Zombie Ryuma and Absalom.

Swap Lafitte and pizarro.
You're saying Nami fights Pizzaro and Sanji fights Lafitte? Pizzaro, a former North Blue royalty with hints of having relations to food and subtle hype as the strongest Level 6 prisoner alongside Shiryu, is going to Nami, a navigator, over Sanji so that he gets the navigator?

Jinbe vs Moriah
Sabo or Yamato vs Burgess
Since when was Moria a member of the Blackbeard Pirates?
 
Hyouzou and Wadatsumi didn't have that dynamic. Neither did Zombie Ryuma and Absalom.



You're saying Nami fights Pizzaro and Sanji fights Lafitte? Pizzaro, a former North Blue royalty with hints of having relations to food and subtle hype as the strongest Level 6 prisoner alongside Shiryu, is going to Nami, a navigator, over Sanji so that he gets the navigator?



Since when was Moria a member of the Blackbeard Pirates?
Pizarro is a cat themed criminal who was kicked out of there home due to his greed and regularly wears fine clothing and jewels. Yeah he’s much more akin to Nami than Sanji. Pizarro and Germa have no connection as Pizarro wasn’t conquered by judge. He
was ousted due to his greed.

Sanji fighting the chief of staff who opened the gates of justice for Blackbeard and is the best infiltrator and flyer of the group doesn’t work for you? Heck Lafitte was outright reintroduced to the story next to Shiryu similar to king and queens.

Moriah was given the invitation to join after act 2. Blackbeard said it outright
 
Hyouzou and Wadatsumi didn't have that dynamic. Neither did Zombie Ryuma and Absalom.
Absalom was fodder and wasn't finished by Sanji, also Jinbe helped Sanji en FI
Also BB crew is a top one
And i think oda may follow the Alabasta,Ennies Lobby and Wano patron where the 2nd stronger didn't get along with the 3rd stronger
It's simple if Shiryu have brawls with x character,that x characteris going to be Sanji's rival
Daz bones-Bentham
Kaku-Jabra
King-Queen
 
So the Blackbeard Pirates are:
  1. Marshall D. Teach
  2. Jesus Burgess
  3. Shiryuu
  4. Van Augur
  5. Avalo Pizarro
  6. Lafitte
  7. Catarina Devon
  8. San Juan Wolf
  9. Vasco Shot
  10. Doc Q and Stronger
  11. 10th Titanic Captain
  12. Kuzan (Ally)

I presume that the Strawhat Pirates Post Wano would be:
  1. Luffy
  2. Zoro
  3. Nami
  4. Sanji
  5. Usopp
  6. Chopper
  7. Robin
  8. Franky
  9. Brook
  10. Jimbe
  11. Yamato
  12. Law (Ally)

The numbers work out. I'll try matching up the Strawhat and Blackbeard Pirates. I'll look match up roles when they intersect and look at personality or other know information to matchup the others.

  1. Luffy: Blackbeard
    1. Pretty self-explanatory actually
    2. Both Captains
  2. Zoro: Shiryuu
    1. Swordsmen
  3. Nami: Lafitte or Catarina Devon or Vasco Shot
    1. Lafitte
      1. He's the navigator
      2. I doubt this, Lafitte is also the Chief of Staff of the Blackbeard Pirates
    2. Devon
      1. She loves collecting the heads of beautiful women and so screams "designated female opponent".
      2. Her character fits best paired up against a woman weaker than her, so Yamato probably wouldn't work.
    3. Vasco Shot
      1. Like Nami he's a heavy drinker
      2. I doubt this TBH, Oda mostly gives Nami other women to fight
  4. Sanji: Avalo Pizarro or San Juan Wolf
    1. Avalo Pizarro
      1. The "Corrupt King" of the North Blue vs the Prince of Germa
    2. San Juan Wolf
      1. Wadatsumi parallels
  5. Usopp: Van Augur
    1. Both snipers
    2. Feels like Usopp's designated opponent
  6. Chopper: Doc Q
    1. Both Doctors
    2. Doc Q is known as "Death God".
    3. Doc Q (like Queen) uses science to bring suffering and is thus exactly the kind of person Chopper hates.
  7. Robin: Catarina Devon or Sanjuan Wolf
    1. Catarina Devon
      1. Devon loves collecting the heads of beautiful women and so screams "designated female opponent".
      2. She's the most dangerous female pirate to be imprisoned in Impel Down.
      3. Her character fits best paired up against a woman weaker than her, so Yamato probably wouldn't work.
    2. Sanjuan Wolf
      1. Both have abilities that let them gigantify
      2. Robin fought a "giant" Tobi Roppo in Black Maria
  8. Franky: Vasco Shot or Sanjuan Wolf?
    1. Mostly process of elimination
  9. Brook: Lafitte
    1. Like Brook, he's really skinny
    2. Lafitte fights with a cane sword (like Brook)
    3. He's capable of using hypnosis (like Brook)
    4. He's a speedster (again like Brook)
    5. He feels like he was created to be Brook's opponent
  10. Jimbe: Jesus Burgess
    1. Both are the helmsmen
    2. Both use shockwaves as their main offence
  11. Yamato: 10th Titanic Captain
    1. Luffy's 10th Recruit vs Blackbeard's
  12. Law (Ally): Kuzan
    1. If Kuzan participates in the Blackbeard vs Strawhat Pirates fight, then facing Luffy's own powerful ally as Blackbeard's ally seems fitting.
    2. If Kuzan doesn't participate, I expect Law to sit this out as well.

If I had to place bets:
  • Nami: Catarina Devon
  • Sanji: Avalo Pizarro
  • Franky: Vasco Shot
  • Robin: Sanjuan Wolf

What are your thoughts?


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Luffy vs BB: obvious
Zoro vs Shiryu: obvious
Nami vs Lafitte: navigators and noble burglar vs corrupt cop
Usopp vs Augur: obvious
Sanji vs 10th Captain: The mystery guy is almost certainly one the strongest members, otherwise why make him a secret? None of the other BBPs have had enough spotlight to stand out from the rest. Nothing suggests Pizarro is any stronger than the others.
Chopper vs Doc Q: obvious
Robin vs Wolf: Robin can create giant versions of herself. Sanjuan Wolf has a very similar name to Tequila Wolf, meaning there may be some connection. Wolf is a dunce while Robin is intelligent. Robin’s attacks are named in Spanish.
Franky vs Pizarro: Pizarro has mechanical guantlets, so that’s a connection between the two.
Brook vs Shot: Shot seems to be a jester, making him the entertainer of the group
Jinbe vs Burgess: helmsman and also martial artist vs performative wrestler
Yamato vs Devon: Mythical Inu Zoans, females, woman with identity crisis vs woman who can be whoever she wants. Fire vs ice.
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Pizarro is a cat themed criminal who was kicked out of there home due to his greed
Where did you get Pizarro was overthrown over greed when it was clearly stated it was over cruelty?

and regularly wears fine clothing and jewels.
Going to need more than "likes shiny things."

Yeah he’s much more akin to Nami than Sanji. Pizarro and Germa have no connection as Pizarro wasn’t conquered by judge. He
was ousted due to his greed.
So you're going to ignore the fact both he and Sanji were rejected North Blue royalty over superficial details such as liking shiny things?

Sanji fighting the chief of staff
And is Lafitte's "chief of staff" rank due to him being very strong or being very intelligent? Just because the "chief of staff" role is strength based in the Revolutionary Army, that doesn't mean the same rules apply in the Blackbeard Pirates, especially when the RHM has been confirmed to not be the "chief of staff."

who opened the gates of justice for Blackbeard and is the best infiltrator and flyer of the group doesn’t work for you?
So basically, he has the qualities of a master thief, just like Nami?

Heck Lafitte was outright reintroduced to the story next to Shiryu similar to king and queens.
Or maybe Oda wants them to foil the Romance Dawn trio.

Moriah was given the invitation to join after act 2. Blackbeard said it outright
Blackbeard was revealed to have TEN Titanic Captains long before Moriah resurfaced, and giving the fact they killed Absalom, I doubt Moriah's joining. I doubt Oda will even give them an eleventh Titan.
 
Where did you get Pizarro was overthrown over greed when it was clearly stated it was over cruelty?



Going to need more than "likes shiny things."



So you're going to ignore the fact both he and Sanji were rejected North Blue royalty over superficial details such as liking shiny things?



And is Lafitte's "chief of staff" rank due to him being very strong or being very intelligent? Just because the "chief of staff" role is strength based in the Revolutionary Army, that doesn't mean the same rules apply in the Blackbeard Pirates, especially when the RHM has been confirmed to not be the "chief of staff."



So basically, he has the qualities of a master thief, just like Nami?



Or maybe Oda wants them to foil the Romance Dawn trio.



Blackbeard was revealed to have TEN Titanic Captains long before Moriah resurfaced, and giving the fact they killed Absalom, I doubt Moriah's joining. I doubt Oda will even give them an eleventh Titan.
I think Oda will go for North Blue royalty vs South Blue peasant with Franky and Pizarro.
 
Where did you get Pizarro was overthrown over greed when it was clearly stated it was over cruelty?



Going to need more than "likes shiny things."



So you're going to ignore the fact both he and Sanji were rejected North Blue royalty over superficial details such as liking shiny things?



And is Lafitte's "chief of staff" rank due to him being very strong or being very intelligent? Just because the "chief of staff" role is strength based in the Revolutionary Army, that doesn't mean the same rules apply in the Blackbeard Pirates, especially when the RHM has been confirmed to not be the "chief of staff."



So basically, he has the qualities of a master thief, just like Nami?



Or maybe Oda wants them to foil the Romance Dawn trio.



Blackbeard was revealed to have TEN Titanic Captains long before Moriah resurfaced, and giving the fact they killed Absalom, I doubt Moriah's joining. I doubt Oda will even give them an eleventh Titan.
1. It was stated in his vivre card he was thrown out for corruption. Corruption is regularly connected to greed.

2. Cat themed, both kicked out of their home town, both are shone as incredibly greedy

3. Sanji isn’t a rejected north blue royal. Germa and Pizarro had no connection and never had any allusion to it. You’re ignoring the overall theming of the characters.

4. We were shown in buggy’s crew that the chief of staff rivaled that of the right hand. There’s never been a chief of staff that isn’t one of the strongest of the group.

5. Yeah because Sanjis not the sneaky one who regularly does side quests to ensure the crews success. Nami is?

6. When has Oda ever foiled the romance Dawn trio to the enemy rather than the Monster trio? Cause look at how King and Queen were shown and compare it to how Shiryu and Lafitte were reintroduce. Namis enemy ulti came much later.

7. Why wouldn’t Blackbeard have more? Luffy hasn’t stopped recruiting.
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I think Oda will go for North Blue royalty vs South Blue peasant with Franky and Pizarro.
Nah cat burglar vs Lion king
 
1. It was stated in his vivre card he was thrown out for corruption. Corruption is regularly connected to greed.

2. Cat themed, both kicked out of their home town, both are shone as incredibly greedy

3. Sanji isn’t a rejected north blue royal. Germa and Pizarro had no connection and never had any allusion to it. You’re ignoring the overall theming of the characters.

4. We were shown in buggy’s crew that the chief of staff rivaled that of the right hand. There’s never been a chief of staff that isn’t one of the strongest of the group.

5. Yeah because Sanjis not the sneaky one who regularly does side quests to ensure the crews success. Nami is?

6. When has Oda ever foiled the romance Dawn trio to the enemy rather than the Monster trio? Cause look at how King and Queen were shown and compare it to how Shiryu and Lafitte were reintroduce. Namis enemy ulti came much later.

7. Why wouldn’t Blackbeard have more? Luffy hasn’t stopped recruiting.
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Nah cat burglar vs Lion king
Noble burglar vs corrupt cop
 
If Pizzaro is Jacks predecessor then he should fight Yamato

This isnt including that this would be Oda's chance to set up a Dog Vs Cat zoan match
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My list is

Luffy Vs Teach
Zoro Vs Shiryu
Sanji Vs Final Member
Yamato Vs Pizzaro
Jinbe Vs Burgess
Robin Vs San Juan
Franky Vs Vasco
Brooke Vs Lafitte
Chopper Vs Doc Q and Stronger
Nami Vs Catarina
Usopp Vs Van Augur

Some takeaways
>Final member being paired with Sanji hypes them up, mimics Shiryu joing and disrupting the power balance and mirrors EL where is opponent was revealed after Zoro and Luffys
>Robin and Frankys opponents r interchangeable, but of the 2 Robin has closer connections to giants
 
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1. It was stated in his vivre card he was thrown out for corruption. Corruption is regularly connected to greed.
He was kicked out of his country for his corruption being severe. I'm pretty sure it goes beyond the scope of just "greed."

2. Cat themed, both kicked out of their home town, both are shone as incredibly greedy
This comes off forced. Nami's story deals with a civilian child held at bondage by her adoptive mother's killer. Pizzaro was a sadistic dictator.

3. Sanji isn’t a rejected north blue royal.
Sanji was rejected by his family. Yes, he's rejected North Blue royalty. Both he and Pizzaro were a former prince and king of North Blue respectively.

Germa and Pizarro had no connection and never had any allusion to it. You’re ignoring the overall theming of the characters.
No connections we know of YET. It's astounding we can conclude Pizarro is "greedy" because of a vague inquiry that implies much more than "greed" and pretend there are no implications Pizzaro ever had some relations to the Vinsmoke despite being big names in his neck of the woods.

4. We were shown in buggy’s crew that the chief of staff rivaled that of the right hand. There’s never been a chief of staff that isn’t one of the strongest of the group.
Tsuru was the chief of staff of the entire Marines, and we know for a fact she isn't even in the top five.

5. Yeah because Sanjis not the sneaky one who regularly does side quests to ensure the crews success. Nami is?
Difference is Lafitte and Sanji don't have the same professions on the crew, Lafitte and Nami do.

6. When has Oda ever foiled the romance Dawn trio to the enemy rather than the Monster trio? Cause look at how King and Queen were shown and compare it to how Shiryu and Lafitte were reintroduce. Namis enemy ulti came much later.
Mr. 1 and his partner, Ms. Double Finger. Lucci, Kaku, and Kalifa were the ones acting as Iceberg's employees. In fact, Kaku and Kalifa ate their respective Devil Fruits at the same time.

7. Why wouldn’t Blackbeard have more? Luffy hasn’t stopped recruiting.
It's not about what Blackbeard wants, but what Oda wants. Unless Luffy gets an 11th member, Oda's not updating Blackbeard's roster unless they're fodder.

No, it reinforces him going to Sanji. He was shown bickering with Zoro's opponent (just as King and Queen).
When have Lafitte and Shiryu bickered?
 
He was kicked out of his country for his corruption being severe. I'm pretty sure it goes beyond the scope of just "greed."



This comes off forced. Nami's story deals with a civilian child held at bondage by her adoptive mother's killer. Pizzaro was a sadistic dictator.



Sanji was rejected by his family. Yes, he's rejected North Blue royalty. Both he and Pizzaro were a former prince and king of North Blue respectively.



No connections we know of YET. It's astounding we can conclude Pizarro is "greedy" because of a vague inquiry that implies much more than "greed" and pretend there are no implications Pizzaro ever had some relations to the Vinsmoke despite being big names in his neck of the woods.



Tsuru was the chief of staff of the entire Marines, and we know for a fact she isn't even in the top five.



Difference is Lafitte and Sanji don't have the same professions on the crew, Lafitte and Nami do.



Mr. 1 and his partner, Ms. Double Finger. Lucci, Kaku, and Kalifa were the ones acting as Iceberg's employees. In fact, Kaku and Kalifa ate their respective Devil Fruits at the same time.



It's not about what Blackbeard wants, but what Oda wants. Unless Luffy gets an 11th member, Oda's not updating Blackbeard's roster unless they're fodder.



When have Lafitte and Shiryu bickered?
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1. What do you think it goes to if not his greed? We even see him now adorned in fine clothing and jewels and a crown. Namis a thief who stole to protect her town from a different corrupt and greedy despot. Pizarro works with her background.

2. Namis story works with a kid fighting off a despot. But even then she is the Cat Burglar. And you think it’s a coincidence this greedy corrupt king meows?

3. Pizarro and germa have no connection. That’s always been forced and has zero basis.

4. Based on his design and history greed is a fair conclusion. Show me anything that could hint to Pizarro being connected to Germa. That’s like saying Lafitte and Brook know each other because they were both law men of the west blue.

5. How can you say Tsuru isn’t one of the strongest? From her generation she’s spoken in a similar manner to sengoku and Garp. She trained an admiral candidate as well. She’s one of the strongest of the marines.

6. Going by this logic franky should be fighting Queen since they’re both mechanics.

7. Yes but who was Kaku paired up with from that point on? Kaku and Jabra. There’s a reason that only 3 members of CP9 had zoan fruits and they corresponded to the monster trio. Oda draws monster trio connections. Not “Romance Dawn Trio” connections because the monster trio are the top 3 in power and authority of the crew.

8. So you think Blackbeard telling Moriah to join his crew right before a different former warlord joined Luffys crew isn’t some kind of parallel? It clearly was designed to parallel the two of them.

9. They didn’t bicker, they we’re introduced together making fun of Burgess. Just like king and Queen were introduced making fun of jack.
 
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