Character Discussion Do Zoro and Sanji have the same level?

[Formerly Seth]

Luffy captain

Zoro and Sanji Right and Left hand men

Mid level combatants

Low level combatants

It's funny how Zoro fans actually debunk their

"Zoro must be way stronger because of his goal and constant training"

when they try to shit on Sanji for getting a Raid suit that makes Sanji stronger without training, and can be upgraded independent of Sanji's own growth.

But they want to have it both ways obviously

The Raid Suit is Oda's way of saying :

"Look guys, i want Sanji to still be up there. Didn't really make sense for him to be up there without a push, so here you go"

Now you can continue to argue that Zoro get's to be on another level than Sanji. Without the Raid Suit that is.

Sanji's ap is too weak. Zoro will bloom tremendously. After Wano Zoro will be level above Sanji.

Sanji fans think that Sanji will rival Zoro just because of Oda's jokes and making them make fun out of each other.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Fight with Kaido will show.

Imagine if Zoro is the reason of why Luffy wins against Kaido

Imagine the salt

 

[HA001]

It's not like we haven't seen dumbass claims that Zoro is even stronger than his captain and has been for the whole time skip

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Why was Zoro not even in WCI at all ?

Who did sanjo fight in wci ?

 

[Erkan12]

Zoro is not going to solo Kaido, even Zoro fans admits that He will probably try to cheap-shot Kaido in a team battle.

And then they still come here, and they try to use that to hype Zoro over Sanji, lmao.

 

[Finalbeta]

No he's not. He maybe close to base Sanji....but not RS Sanji.

Are you referring to Zoro?

Mind posting your arguments if yes?

 

[Kromage911]

I think a better question would be do Luffy and Zoro have the same level ?

According to some Zoro stans, he's higher. The level of delusion isn't any less than Sanji stans. It even exceeds them in some cases tbh.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

1.) Katakuri used hos strongest attack and couldnt KO Luffy first time. Apoo is alsohad higher AP than Katakuri and Zoro lol

2.) Yet Oven is more durable than Katakuri. Can you read ?

3.) Yet Luffy hyped it up and was shocked.

1)luffy was ko several minutes and this luffy is very stronge than that
2)and page one is more durable than Oven what are you say Page one>kata?

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Sanji's ap is too weak. Zoro will bloom tremendously. After Wano Zoro will be level above Sanji.

Sanji fans think that Sanji will rival Zoro just because of Oda's jokes and making them make fun out of each other.

Sanji's AP will be good enough to put down likely the biggest tank among the Beast Pirates when Queen goes Hybrid.

And Zoro excels in AP. It's like how Katakuri excels in CoO. Katakuri has better CoO than Big Mom, but you're not going to get people claim that he is way ahead of her because he is better at one thing.

Zoro fans always go off on their AP wank.

 

[HA001]

Zoro is not going to solo Kaido, even Zoro fans admits that He will probably try to cheap-shot Kaido in a team battle.

And then they still come here, and they try to use that to hype Zoro over Sanji, lmao.

G4 cheap shotted kaido. Did nothing
Sanji isnt even g4 level.

 

[nik87]

It always put sanji in the same level than zoro but the reallity it's both doesn't have same level and representative, it's only humuristic representative as another crew( like shanks and buggy).
Example why sanji doesn't have the same representative? would be several like:
1) Zoro is a worstgen and he has been able to defeat with realitive ease (Hawkins, Killer and appo)
2) Zoro was reconazied as Vic for many character (Uroge, Queen, Bartolo...)
3) zoro humiliated Pika and was stopped by a admiral while sanji was destroyed by vergo and doffi

Threads like these are counterproductive. There is no need to wake the dead.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

According to some Zoro stans, he's higher. The level of delusion isn't any less than Sanji stans. It even exceeds them in some cases tbh.

Im pretty sure most of them are trolling

 

[Finalbeta]

According to some Zoro stans, he's higher. The level of delusion isn't any less than Sanji stans. It even exceeds them in some cases tbh.

Zoro and Luffy were always portrayed as equals.

Show me why it's any different than that.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Who did sanjo fight in wci ?

Not Big Mom. Just like Luffy.

That arc was not about fighting the Yonko, since we were not strong enough.

 

[HA001]

Not Big Mom. Just like Luffy.

That arc was not about fighting the Yonko, since we were not strong enough.

This one is.
Zoro didnt go wci so he didnt grow in that arc yet hes still gonna fight a yonko.

 

[Finalbeta]

Not Big Mom. Just like Luffy.

That arc was not about fighting the Yonko, since we were not strong enough.

It's not that anything changed for Sanji however.

Nothing hints at him fighting either Kaido or Big Mom this arc, unlike with Zoro and Luffy.

 

[Fallen Prince]

This should be merged in battledom thread.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

This one is.
Zoro didnt go wci so he didnt grow in that arc yet hes still gonna fight a yonko.

Zoro grew in this arc, you have the man himself talking about how much stronger he get's with Enma and the Enma training.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Sanji's AP will be good enough to put down likely the biggest tank among the Beast Pirates when Queen goes Hybrid.

And Zoro excels in AP. It's like how Katakuri excels in CoO. Katakuri has better CoO than Big Mom, but you're not going to get people claim that he is way ahead of her because he is better at one thing.

Zoro fans always go off on their AP wank.

Sanji is incapable of beating Zoro in 1 vs 1 fight. Oda will never show this fight to not ruin Sanji fandom completely but dunno.

Who the fuck even come up with Sanji amd Zoro being equal?

They are not and never will be. Time to wake up from the bubble. Fandoms this fandoms that. It doesn't matter.

In a pure 1 vs 1 bloodlusted fight Zoro wins 10/10 times.

 

[Finalbeta]

I told you this thread was unnecessary.

 

[Erkan12]

Kaido's weakness was Ryuo.

Even the weakest members of 9 scabbards manage to wound Kaido.

Zoro can accomplish something that the weakest members of 9 scabbards did. That would hardly put Zoro over Denjiro level.