General & Others Does Anyone Else Find It Extremely Bizzare That We Never Saw An Interaction Between BM/Kaido And The Other Great Powers?

[EmperorKinyagi]

Follow up to a reply I made in this thread:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/characters-interactions-you-wish-happened.63336/

Kaido and Big Mom are the only leaders of great powers that have NEVER interacted on panel with major members of the other world powers.

0 on panel interactions with the Blackbeard Pirates

0 on panel interactions with the Red Hair Pirates

0 on panel interactions with Navy

0 on panel interactions with the Revolutionaries

0 on panel interactions with sitting Warlords.

Technically, we have an interaction between Jinbe and BM but this was after he gave up being a warlord.

We have an interaction between BM and Marco, but this was after the WBP was disbanded. Likewise any God’s Valley interactions with Kaido/BM and WB won’t have been during their respective reigns as world super powers.

What makes this even weirder is that ALL of the other factions have had significant story moments where they have interacted with each other. We’ve even had interactions between factions that seem completely disconnected like between the Blackbeard pirates and revolutionaries.

Does anyone else find this super weird? We’re supposed to believe the BMP and the BP are part of the great balance of powers but we get like 0 sense of this in the story.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

It's because they both sit on their thrones and never leave their islands

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But we saw Big Mom interacting with the underwold emperors
Its also said that Kaido meet Shanks
And we also know that Kaido and Doffy were business partner

 

[SkySanji]

Not really, neither were involved in Marineford (where almost all the examples of top tiers interacting with each other happened) and both have a home base that they just chill at

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

It's because they both sit on their thrones and never leave their islands

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But we saw Big Mom interacting with the underwold emperors
Its also said that Kaido meet Shanks
And we also know that Kaido and Doffy were business partner

Well yeah we KNOW about interactions but we’ve never seen them.

Not really, neither were involved in Marineford (where almost all the examples of top tiers interacting with each other happened) and both have a home base that they just chill at

We’ve still seen interactions with every faction outside of MF

 

[SakazOuki]

They are called filler for a reason

 

[Djordje]

They were never grand in bigger picture. Whitebeard was most legendary closest to one piece yonko, world strongest pirate at that time and he died at biggest war ever against Navy , war that marked end of part 1 of one piece . His last words reignited the flames of pirates all over the world and confirmed existence of one piece which mane believed to be myth.

Big mom and Kaido were just warm up for other stronger and more relevant yonkos, precisely Shanks as Oda golden boy and Luffy idol and Blackbeard as final villain who seeks domination over world.

That's why they feel so disconnected to others.

 

[LogicoftheVI]

The 3 powers balancing one another is exactly why we do not see interactions between them. The Navy doesn't want a fight with the Yonko as we see BB rise to power as the new 4th Yonko shortly after Whitebeard was defeated restoring the balance. We see they did not want to dissolve the Warlord system, as Fujitora was pushing for at the Reverie because they feared it would disturb the balance and, in a way, we see that it has even with the Seraphim taking the Walrod's place. Each time Luffy or Ace defeated a Warlord the WG quickly met to appoint another one. So, no, it isn't weird that they never had any on-panel (screen) interactions. For the sake of the balance, the WG wants to implement the 3 powers needed to be autonomous and have little to no interactions with one another.

 

[Buusatan94]

It's disappointing but not surprising. There are so many characters other than the Straw Hats that should have interacted or interacted more with each other but who didn't or had minimal interactions onscreen.

 

[Blax Blah]

It's because they both sit on their thrones and never leave their islands

Post automatically merged: Friday at 2:15 AM

But we saw Big Mom interacting with the underwold emperors
Its also said that Kaido meet Shanks
And we also know that Kaido and Doffy were business partner

Not really, neither were involved in Marineford (where almost all the examples of top tiers interacting with each other happened) and both have a home base that they just chill at

They were never grand in bigger picture. Whitebeard was most legendary closest to one piece yonko, world strongest pirate at that time and he died at biggest war ever against Navy , war that marked end of part 1 of one piece . His last words reignited the flames of pirates all over the world and confirmed existence of one piece which mane believed to be myth.

Big mom and Kaido were just warm up for other stronger and more relevant yonkos, precisely Shanks as Oda golden boy and Luffy idol and Blackbeard as final villain who seeks domination over world.

That's why they feel so disconnected to others.

Yeah Shanks travels and Blackbeard tried to ask the navy for a ship but Big Mom and Kaido had their country and stayed in it mostly, we know Kaido left once when Ace met Yamato

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Its because they are FILLER YONKOS!
We spent 10 years of story with them,but honestly,with the expection of a few things here and there (Nika reveal,Sabo reveal,Doflamingo) the story could go from Fishman Island directly to Egghead without big problems

 

[Moegara]

We’ve still seen interactions with every faction outside of MF

Said interactions are supposed to be extremely rare, and usually characters appear mysterious (even as just silhouettes) for decades until it's time for their arc.

It was simply not their time in Oda's style of writing.

It's similar to what happens to Shichibukais like Doflamingo, who was introduced to the story during its earliest arcs, but didn't even showcase his actual fighting style in a war he was in, and suddenly he had a super interesting backstory and a lot wider set of abilities and moves when it was time for Dressrosa. And then he's out of the story again for another decade.

Same thing about Kuma, Kizaru, Kuzan, or Shanks' family and story, who we are only now starting to hear about.

The only difference is that these characters weren't "hidden" for hype as mysterious figures, so we could see them in minor scenes here and there doing small talk.

This all doesn't make them any more filler than Doflamingo, Crocodile, Enel, Lucci, or other actually great villains. They can all be skipped if we go there.

20+ years waiting for Mihawk's fucking arc so we can start actually learning about the character in some depth.

 

[Buusatan94]

We barely have seen the Admirals and Warlords interact with each other and with the other Yonkos either, nor with the RA.

 

[Juanpiz]

Said interactions are supposed to be extremely rare, and usually characters appear mysterious (even as just silhouettes) for decades until it's time for their arc.

It was simply not their time in Oda's style of writing.

It's similar to what happens to Shichibukais like Doflamingo, who was introduced to the story during its earliest arcs, but didn't even showcase his actual fighting style in a war he was in, and suddenly he had a super interesting backstory and a lot wider set of abilities and moves when it was time for Dressrosa. And then he's out of the story again for another decade.

Same thing about Kuma, Kizaru, Kuzan, or Shanks' family and story, who we are only now starting to hear about.

The only difference is that these characters weren't "hidden" for hype as mysterious figures, so we could see them in minor scenes here and there doing small talk.

This all doesn't make them any more filler than Doflamingo, Crocodile, Enel, Lucci, or other actually great villains. They can all be skipped if we go there.

20+ years waiting for Mihawk's fucking arc so we can start actually learning about the character in some depth.

His arc?

 

[Buusatan94]

And even the admirals, pre-timeskip at least, and Warlords, save for the ones who joined Cross Guild and only after forming Cross Guild, barely had any interaction with each other or moments that really showed their relations with each other.

Aokiji and Kizaru haven't any real interaction together, and there is yet to be an interaction between Kuzan and Fujitora or Ryokugyu, we haven't seen Sakazuki meet or talk to Ryokugyu either.

Aside from with Jinbei we have never seen Hancock interact with any other Warlord, we have seen minimal interactions between Doflamingo and Kuma and with Mihawk, Moria and Mihawk didn't really interact either, we didn't even see Jinbei and Kuma together, nor Kuma and Mihawk talk, etc....

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Said interactions are supposed to be extremely rare, and usually characters appear mysterious (even as just silhouettes) for decades until it's time for their arc.

It was simply not their time in Oda's style of writing.

It's similar to what happens to Shichibukais like Doflamingo, who was introduced to the story during its earliest arcs, but didn't even showcase his actual fighting style in a war he was in, and suddenly he had a super interesting backstory and a lot wider set of abilities and moves when it was time for Dressrosa. And then he's out of the story again for another decade.

Same thing about Kuma, Kizaru, Kuzan, or Shanks' family and story, who we are only now starting to hear about.

The only difference is that these characters weren't "hidden" for hype as mysterious figures, so we could see them in minor scenes here and there doing small talk.

This all doesn't make them any more filler than Doflamingo, Crocodile, Enel, Lucci, or other actually great villains. They can all be skipped if we go there.

20+ years waiting for Mihawk's fucking arc so we can start actually learning about the character in some depth.

No because Enies Lobby is a pivotal arc and Alabasta too,Skype too. They cant be skipped.

 

[Gyro]

honestly im more mad we didn't see an interaction between queen and franky

 

[Buusatan94]

honestly im more mad we didn't see an interaction between queen and franky

We can't have biological father-son relations in One Piece.

 

[MonsterKaido]

MF was a rare scenario where the opportunity itself presented for it.

We don't even get that much interactions between Warlords or admirals.

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Kaido and BM were the filler Yonko created to make the story longer and/or for Oda to write/draw all the arcs and characters he wanted. They were never meant to be in the big picture.

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Its because they are FILLER YONKOS!
We spent 10 years of story with them,but honestly,with the expection of a few things here and there (Nika reveal,Sabo reveal,Doflamingo) the story could go from Fishman Island directly to Egghead without big problems

This, although we would still need at least a Wano arc, as it was alluded a long time ago, + a few more arcs for the New World to make sense. They would be probably much shorter arcs though.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Kaido and BM were the filler Yonko created to make the story longer and/or for Oda to write/draw all the arcs and characters he wanted. They were never meant to be in the big picture.

Originally the yonkos were meant to be the final villains though. Saying they are filler is same as saying 10 years of one piece is filler.