Questions & Mysteries Does Zoro have Internal Destruction Haki?

[Zenos7]

Maybe you should use a better translation, than some shoddy fan one to suit your narrative like you always do.

And this is what it looks like when it is used for offensive purposes.

So I ask you again, how the hell does Haki exploding out of someone's palm translate into making their blade sharper so they can pierce Kaido?

what hyo does there is not penetration haki though?! so it sounds like some more gish galloping from you. . .

 

[trav]

Zoros way of bypassing defenses is to cut right through it.
what Luffy learned works differently for swordsman.

instead of causing internal damage the sword penetrates defenses.

 

[bennbeckman]

They can't do it. Hyogoro expressed surprise over Luffy doing that. So far, only Luffy and Rayleigh have performed this application of haki on panel. And to answer the topic, no Zoro can't do it, as far as we know.

I mentioned that in the Edited part of my statment

 

[Zenos7]

It is weird because Oda has done such a roundabout way of trying to explain it. Like we know Barrier Haki exists and Armament Haki exists, but the Advanced form of Barrier Haki is Internal destruction Haki. So barrier haki in and of itself isn't an advanced form of Haki, only the type that destroys from the inside out is.

luffy himself considered it advanced though

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

what hyo does there is not penetration haki though?! so it sounds like some more gish galloping from you. . .

No, it's not penetration, but it's still being used offensively...

luffy himself considered it advanced though

That's why I said the shit is confusing, because if you take a closer look at it, it appears that there's actually three levels to this type of haki.

You have Haki that can coat the outer part of a person's body, which would be barrier Haki, which would be beginner.

Then there is what Rayleigh, Hyou, Sentomaru did where it exploded out of their palms, which would be intermediate.

Leaving Internal Destruction as Advanced.

 

[HA001]

No, it's not penetration, but it's still being used offensively...



That's why I said the shit is confusing, because if you take a closer look at it there's actually three levels to this type of haki.

You have Haki that can coat the outer part of a person's body, which would be barrier Haki, which would be beginner.

Then there is what Rayleigh, Hyou, Sentomaru did where it exploded out of their palms, which would be intermediate.

Leaving Internal Destruction as Advanced.

No there isnt as you can see in the first panel the haki clad fist isnt touching the brick but the explosion outside it. An open palm would make that radius bigger a sword would make it more concentrated to one point.
This is really simple. Just admit youre wrong an move on.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

No there isnt as you can see in the first panel the haki clad fist isnt touching the brick but the explosion outside it. An open palm would make that radius bigger a sword would make it more concentrated to one point.
This is really simple. Just admit youre wrong an move on.

Hyou calls Internal Destruction a higher level than the basic outside coating of Haki on ones body. So by your assessment if thats advanced then internal destruction is mastery on Luffy's part. Cool.... I'll take it. :cheers:

 

[HA001]

Hyou calls Internal Desutrion a higher level than the basic outside coating of Haki on ones body. So by your assessment internal destruction is mastery on Luffy's part? Cool.... I'll take it. :cheers:

? Hyou cant do it.
Luffy did not want penetration to hurt kaido

Stage one is enough. Which is what the scabbards used.
Roger and wb and imo zoro with enma was stage 2.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

? Hyou cant do it.
Luffy did not want penetration to hurt kaido

Stage one is enough. Which is what the scabbards used.
Roger and wb and imo zoro with enma was stage 2.

Penetration is a level beyond what Hyou can do.

So if that's advanced, then penetration is Mastered.

 

[HA001]

Penetration is a level beyond what Hyou can do.

So if that's advanced, then penetration is Mastered.

Yes luffy can go one step beyond and flow the haki futher
As for swordsman i agree with @Afroking after futher inspection

I think Oda needs to do better to separate the two,because honestly ,what is the difference between what Zoro did with Enma

And what Roger/Whitebeard did?

In both cases the haki flew far way out of the weapon.

You know what ive never really looked into this scene but i think youre right.
Because only haki ripped through the cliff not like zoros normal slashes he can do with his physical strength.

As you can see the sword was leaking ryou at the time too.
This had 0 physical strength behind it and was pure haki unlike some of zoros slashes say from dressrosa.

And thinking back to how this fits into what hyou said about haki

What happened with enma there fits more with the second explanation than the first (as does what wb and roger did)
Even the gag one with sanji

Spoiler

Hes sat down yet still manages to do that big a slice. Once again likely with flowing haki.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Zoro already beta the monkeys before he started training with Mihawk . Mihawk trained him personally . Stop with this money crap .

So what if he beated them up? Can't they get up and fight later? He didn't kill them.
And do you know that because?

 

[HA001]

So what if he beated them up? Can't they get up and fight later? He didn't kill them.
And do you know that because?

If zoro who was half dead injured beat all of them. Why would zoro who was nursed back to health by perona then fight baboon who he beat when he was injured to fuck ?
Try using your brain for once.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

If zoro who was half dead injured beat all of them. Why would zoro who was nursed back to health by perona then fight baboon who he beat when he was injured to fuck ?
Try using your brain for once.

Emm, Luffy using fodders to learn Haki through practice...
Use your head bruh.

 

[HA001]

Emm, Luffy using fodders to learn Haki through practice...
Use your head bruh.

Luffy fought loads of beasts who were stronger than him to grow.
In zoros flashback in dressrosa there wasnt a baboon to be seen.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Luffy fought loads of beasts who were stronger than him to grow.
In zoros flashback in dressrosa there wasnt a baboon to be seen.

I just posted an example where a character learned Haki through fightning weaker opponents and because your Zorolieber inner being does not accept that your idol Zoro could train with weaker characters, you ignored it blatantly.
Lmao.
What a joke. As always.

 

[HA001]

I just posted an example where a character learned Haki through fightning weaker opponents and because your Zorolieber inner being does not accept that your idol Zoro could train with weaker characters, you ignored it blatantly.
Lmao.
What a joke. As always.

No he learned to use a different application which he couldnt do until hyous life was in danger and he removed the collar.
And i just showed you proof there were no baboons in his traning flashback to be seen which your dumbass ignored and carried on talking about speculation

 

[trav]

1: regular CoA: ability to touch Logia (, stronger offense/defense?)
2: CoA hardening: visible CoA, stronger defense and offense
3: CoA flow/aura: CoA outside of the users body. blast wave for offense. better defense too. especially vs piercing attacks
4: CoA flow/aura penetration: making the flow CoA enter the enemies body. most devastating

for a swordsman I think it stops at 3, currently.
penetration haki is the same as flow haki (3 and 4), only used differently.

it does not appear like swordsmen would meed to use stage 4 as stage 3 already gives them the ability to "bypass defenses".
ryou (3) can already penetrate Kaidos skin when used in conjunction with a sword. something that Luffy explicitely trained for (4).

Luffys has to exert additional effort to do something that swordsman can already do with flow ryou.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

No he learned to use a different application which he couldnt do until hyous life was in danger and he removed the collar.
And i just showed you proof there were no baboons in his traning flashback to be seen which your dumbass ignored and carried on talking about speculation

Oh yeah, your proof is that a panel which shows some seconds from a 2 years training is enough evidence that Zoro didn't fight the baboons.
XDDDDD

 

[HA001]

Oh yeah, your proof is that a panel which shows some seconds from a 2 years training is enough evidence that Zoro didn't fight the baboons.
XDDDDD

And your proof he did fight them again is...............


Oh yeah you dont have any.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

And your proof he did fight them again is...............


Oh yeah you dont have any.

My proof is that Luffy and Sanji fought against something to increase their strength and learn Haki, Rayleigh said that in battle Haki flourishes more in battle and using common sense, if you don't put in practice the theory, you are learning a shit. And Zoro has a tons of rivals there too for that (why the fuck did you think author gave them opponents for all the three?), but he did not use it because reasons! Oh, he is special! Zoro here is the god and he does not need to practice like all the others!
It's not like we learned from his past that he is a hard worker concerning to train and his train consisted too with, guess it, yes, fightning opponents! What's the point of training your muscles if you don't polish them in battle?

He is the messiah, he learned Haki through cutting air! Ohh, what a talent! No, wait, he didn't need to do that. He practiced it mentally, like in that filler from DB where Krilin and Gohan trained in their minds. Bah, Zoro is the greatest. Let me lick your boots!