General & Others Eiichiro Oda: "The story is in the final phase"

[Paperchampion23]

I literally cannot fathom the logic of people assuming plot with Shanks will be small and resolved in a short period of time. Let alone resolved on Elbaf for some odd reason. Like I actually still do not get why that theory took hold of this fanbase in such a way that it's convinced a large population of it happening.

Shanks has a presence that is equal to, if not more than, the presence of Blackbeard. There are also clear hints to him being not "just" Luffy's all good mentor.


There is definitely more to this game


Edit: And I'm sure we will 100% see:

- Emerald City/Vegapunk's facility (if they are related)
- Elbaf
- Lodestar
- Laugh Tale
- God Valley

In no particular order or importance. Some of these could be quick. Some of these could be visited by other factions, but I think we will see them in its entirety. They all play a particular role, for sure. There may even be locations we aren't even thinking about at this time. The fact that the 4th RP is entirely missing and it's location is unknown means that it will have to be found somewhere else post Wano, wherever that place is.

 

[Finalbeta]

Man, at this rate, Kingdom will end before One Piece does.

When would the end date be circa in your opinion?

 

[JerAx]

Didn't we already know that?

Also Oda's wearing nail polish.

yeah.
textbook pr talk.

"hey one piece is ending, get back in people"

 

[Roo]

I literally cannot fathom the logic of people assuming plot with Shanks will be small and resolved in a short period of time. Let alone resolved on Elbaf for some odd reason. Like I actually still do not get why that theory took hold of this fanbase in such a way that it's convinced a large population of it happening.

Shanks has a presence that is equal to, if not more than, the presence of Blackbeard. There are also clear hints to him being not "just" Luffy's all good mentor.


There is definitely more to this game


Edit: And I'm sure we will 100% see:

- Emerald City/Vegapunk's facility (if they are related)
- Elbaf
- Lodestar
- Laugh Tale
- God Valley

In no particular order or importance. Some of these could be quick. Some of these could be visited by other factions, but I think we will see them in its entirety. They all play a particular role, for sure. There may even be locations we aren't even thinking about at this time. The fact that the 4th RP is entirely missing and it's location is unknown means that it will have to be found somewhere else post Wano, wherever that place is.

I think Emerald city is just a different name for another island like Lodestar or God Valley.

Also why I personally believe that Shanks will play a minor role compared to the other Yonko is because he's simply not an adversary. If Luffy and Shanks meet it will likely be in a feel good short arc like Little Garden. Then his role in the story will be to die at the hands of Blackbeard imo

 

[Banchi]

Want this
Want this as a poster

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think Emerald city is just a different name for another island like Lodestar or God Valley.

Also why I personally believe that Shanks will play a minor role compared to the other Yonko is because he's simply not an adversary. If Luffy and Shanks meet it will likely be in a feel good short arc like Little Garden. Then his role in the story will be to die at the hands of Blackbeard imo

You don't know this. That's the problem. There's a lot we don't know about Shanks

 

[Roo]

You don't know this. That's the problem. There's a lot we don't know about Shanks

it goes both ways bro, just like you can assume he will play a huge role I can say the opposite

What I know for a fact is that Shanks has never been portrayed like the rest of the Yonko(as an adversary) so I am assuming the secrets he has are not villainous by any means

 

[Paperchampion23]

it goes both ways bro, just like you can assume he will play a huge role I can say the opposite

What I know for a fact is that Shanks has never been portrayed like the rest of the Yonko(as an adversary) so I am assuming the secrets he has are not villainous by any means

I mean, there are tons of reasons why he's likely not who you think he is:

You are the one claiming he's a minor character to be resolved in a secondary arc after this scene exists, not without realizing there a ton of other reasons to think hes not exactly "good". Oda wouldn't have drawn this scene if he didn't expect the reader to think that Shanks meeting them was wrong on many levels.

But if that can't convince you then I don't know what will. I'm not the only one with this line of thinking either:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/shanks-is-the-head-of-the-underworld.8947/

 

[Roo]

I mean, there are tons of reasons why he's likely not who you think he is:

You are the one claiming he's a minor character to be resolved in a secondary arc after this scene exists, not without realizing there a ton of other reasons to think hes not exactly "good". Oda wouldn't have drawn this scene if he didn't expect the reader to think that Shanks meeting them was wrong on many levels.

What? A Yonko meeting up the elders is already a twist of it's own. Oda could've just drawn it as a shock, it doesn't mean he wants to imply he's evil. Again I said Shanks has secrets, but by no means I believe they're of the evil nature anyways.

But if that can't convince you then I don't know what will. I'm not the only one with this line of thinking either:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/shanks-is-the-head-of-the-underworld.8947/

In that same panel it says Shanks doesn't get involved in politics, I fail to see why he will be the leader of the underworld

 

[Paperchampion23]

What? A Yonko meeting up the elders is already a twist of it's own. Oda could've just drawn it as a shock, it doesn't mean he wants to imply he's evil. Again I said Shanks has secrets, but by no means I believe they're of the evil nature anyways.


In that same panel it says Shanks doesn't get involved in politics, I fail to see why he will be the leader of the underworld

He's literally talking to genocidal oppressors. It wouldn't be nearly as shocking if it was Blackbeard or Kaido, who kill and control people in their own way to get what they want. Shanks has never been shown to be like this. Im does not like Blackbeard, yet the Gorosei tolerate Shanks.


This is not about him being "evil", this has to do with you saying he's less important than other Yonko lol

The Underworld is not the World Government lmao. Literally the opposite of it

 

[Roo]

He's literally talking to genocidal oppressors. It wouldn't be nearly as shocking if it was Blackbeard or Kaido, who kill and control people in their own way to get what they want. Shanks has never been shown to be like this. Im does not like Blackbeard, yet the Gorosei tolerate Shanks.

Shanks has always been diplomatic, I fail to see how this is new. Diplomacy means making deals with your enemies despite how much you hate them.

This is not about him being "evil", this has to do with you saying he's less important than other Yonko lol

I said he will play a minor role compared to the people who have had 15 years of buildup as enemies. He's still as important in other ways.

The Underworld is not the World Government lmao. Literally the opposite of it

The Underworld has politics involved, Dressrosa/PH showed it. Politics don't always mean goverment

 

[Paperchampion23]

Shanks has always been diplomatic, I fail to see how this is new. Diplomacy means making deals with your enemies despite how much you hate them.





I said he will play a minor role compared to the people who have had 15 years of buildup as enemies. He's still as important in other ways.



The Underworld has politics involved, Dressrosa/PH showed it. Politics don't always mean goverment

Listen man, believe what you want lol. Shanks being "diplomatic" is simply not true. He stopped 1 war after it went too far. For reasons we can't even truly justify as being genuine. Thats the single example you have to go by. This is the same person who's crewmate shot a bandit in the head and tore Kid's arm clean off. This is the same man, that when looking at Luffy's bounty poster, clearly had the intention of fighting him too. This is the same person Luffy intends to fight just as much as he's fighting the others.

The Underworld is not political. It's there to shift the game of power. The politics the Gorosei are referring to are the ones that were being discussed at the Reverie, where people in power make changes based on policy. Selling weapons isn't politics, its a result OF politics.

Again, i think you are severely underestimating the importance of Shanks, especially when comparing him to someone like Blackbeard. Shanks has been here since Chapter 1, he is the single most important character outside of the crew.

This is WHY he's always featured in the table of contents every volume, not Blackbeard.

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@Roo that scene with the Gorosei had 1 purpose, to make you question who Shanks is. He is by far the most egnimatic character in the series, with no obvious or clear motives because Oda has hid them.

Even Oden questioned why Shanks cried when he asked Roger a question that Oda wouldn't reveal to us. To make that scene a red herring makes no sense. We've already seen him being "diplomatic" with Sengoku.

Making that scene for shock value had a purpose.

 

[Herrera95]

One Piece could have already ended if Oda took serious his own work.

 

[KiriNigiri]

Well, "final phase" can be interpreted in many ways. Lets say we're 2/3 of the way through, that still means it's the final phase. The stage at which we are in the story doesn't translate to raw chapter numbers, as Oda can extend or shorten certain elements as he pleases.

What we have left following Wano are the things Oda has been teasing/building for practically the whole story. I'm confident he'll give them all the time they need. One Piece isn't going anywhere any time soon.