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Made it to Scadu Altus, two bosses encountered. So far so good.
Rellanaโs Carian sword moveset is amazing, too bad you donโt get to enjoy the fight to its fullestdue to hugging the boss 99% of the time, nervous about getting 2-shot.
Honestly i feel that L2 spam of Blasphemous blade is more broken than having +10 Mimic and Tiche back to back.
Rellanaโs Carian sword moveset is amazing, too bad you donโt get to enjoy the fight to its fullestdue to hugging the boss 99% of the time, nervous about getting 2-shot.
Honestly i feel that L2 spam of Blasphemous blade is more broken than having +10 Mimic and Tiche back to back.
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Buffing the blessing is a great thing to hear. And I agree with @TheKnightOfTheSea that bosses need to be adjusted.
Cause right now, bosses(and a lot of enemies), a very tanky, and 1 or 2 shot you, and has a move designed to catch you off guard. It makes lots of encounters slow and tedious and they can kill in 1 or 2 hits. Either play perfectly or you suffer a cheap death. I've yet to bother fighting a dragon because of this.
Cause right now, bosses(and a lot of enemies), a very tanky, and 1 or 2 shot you, and has a move designed to catch you off guard. It makes lots of encounters slow and tedious and they can kill in 1 or 2 hits. Either play perfectly or you suffer a cheap death. I've yet to bother fighting a dragon because of this.
It starts to get to a point where bosses are more and more ridiculous (while still being doable). Like bosses are like Bloodborne or Sekiro bosses, but we are still slow like in Dark Souls compared to them (with the minor buffs elden ring gives you) It's still possible to beat tho, but Kai Cenat (for how cringe it is to say) deserves credit for beating the DLC, a was a shitty casual gamer, but proved on his streams than he could learn and beat this game and hard DLC
I'm thinking about switching to a build inspired by S-Hawk (Big ass sword + Beast Claws from the DLC?)
The Luffy build (dryleaf arts, Faith + Quality) is getting really annoying with some bosses
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I'm thinking about switching to a build inspired by S-Hawk (Big ass sword + Beast Claws from the DLC?)
The Luffy build (dryleaf arts, Faith + Quality) is getting really annoying with some bosses
The DLC was pretty great
even though i've played all from software games and got plat trophies on all of them, i still consider myself a casual
i don't do any challenge runs and super hard challenges, cause that ain't me
and i think this DLC is reaching the point out of the curve for me, where the difficulty is making it not fun for me
i really enjoyed all my time exploring, trying out the new weapons, watching the cutscenes and looking at the views
but the actual boss fights, were just exhausting to me, i only felt relief getting over them, so i could go back to doing what i enjoyed
it's mostly the feeling i've been having with Elden Ring endgame and the DLC here, everything else was great
if From Software insists on keeping up this frantic fighting style for the bosses, they should give us a character like Sekiro, that can react and respond in the same speed back
even though i've played all from software games and got plat trophies on all of them, i still consider myself a casual
i don't do any challenge runs and super hard challenges, cause that ain't me
and i think this DLC is reaching the point out of the curve for me, where the difficulty is making it not fun for me
i really enjoyed all my time exploring, trying out the new weapons, watching the cutscenes and looking at the views
but the actual boss fights, were just exhausting to me, i only felt relief getting over them, so i could go back to doing what i enjoyed
it's mostly the feeling i've been having with Elden Ring endgame and the DLC here, everything else was great
if From Software insists on keeping up this frantic fighting style for the bosses, they should give us a character like Sekiro, that can react and respond in the same speed back
Alright guys. Some In-Lore powerscaling for you casual FROM powerscaling enjoyers. I am pretty well versed in sorceries lore as my main was a sorcerer.
Here are the reasons I believe Rellana is intended to be Demigod level in lore.
Here are the reasons I believe Rellana is intended to be Demigod level in lore.
Alright so the first thing to note is that Rellana is Rennalaโs younger twin. Duh amirite?
Well, prior to the births of Radahn/Rykard/Ranni, Rennala is the greatest sorcerer in the history of Elden Ring by far. After Rennala, the best sorcerers in the history of Elden Ring are Azur, Lusat, and Sellen.
Azur and Lusat each discovered their own legendary sorceries (Comet Azur and Stars of Ruin respectively). Sellen also learns a legendary sorcery in the form of Founding Rain of Stars. These three are too my knowledge, the only sorcerers in the history of Elden Ring to learn and be capable of casting legendary sorceries.
Comet Azur has a minimum intelligence stat requirement of 60 intelligence. Stars of Ruin requires 43 intelligence. Founding Rain of Stars, 52.
We can gauge roughly how powerful these sorceries are supposed to be via there (in lore) high intelligence levels required to cast them. This is not just a gameplay mechanic, these sorceries are intended only for master sorcerers to be able to use in-lore.
Well.
Rennala is not only capable of casting Comet Azur, Comet Azur isnโt even her most powerful sorcery. Rennalaโs most powerful sorcery is Rennalaโs Full Moon, a signature sorcery she developed herself.
Rennalaโs Full Moon has a minimum intelligence requirement of 70. Meaning her sorcery is factually more difficult to cast than Comet Azur or any legendary sorcery, or even any other sorcery in the base game. I would also easily argue that RFM is intended to be a superior sorcery to Comet Azur in lore but that discussion is neither here nor there.
Which this makes sense, Rennala is a demigod, which means she (and spoiler alert, her children) were just destined to outright be more powerful than even the most powerful โmortalโ sorcerers in history. I do think the demigod title is somewhat political, IE Rennala becomes a Demigod only when Radagonโs political marriage to Marika is arranged, but to a certain extent being a Demigod is also about your power level tooโฆanyway.
Now controversial statement, I actually donโt think Radahn surpassed Rennala as a sorcerer. I think Radahnโs sorcery far exceeds the scale of Rennalaโs sorcery, but in terms of complexity Radahnโs sorceries are pretty middle-of-the-road. Now you can make mid tier or even low tier sorceries incredibly powerful in-lore depending on your intelligence levels, but at least in terms of the complexity of his sorceries, Radahn has nothing on Rennala.
Rykardโs only known sorcery is Rykardโs Rancor, which has an intelligence requirement of 40 and a faith requirement of 18, so we can say Rykard was also intended to be a low level legendary sorcerer on top of being a skilled warrior in lore, and also later a giant snake monster.
Ranni in lore also creates her own sorceries just like Rennala and Rykard, and she creates a mirror spell to Rennalaโs Full Moon, Ranniโs Dark Moon. This spell has an intelligence requirement of 68, but in lore is just an outright superior version of Rennalaโs Full Moon in just about every way aside from costing more FP to cast. So in lore we can argue that Ranni is at minimum a Rennala level sorcerer or perhaps even better.
So, with all that said, how does Rellana compare to all these other sorcerers?
Well, Rellanaโs Twin Moon was her own sorcery that she created when Rennala created her Full Moon spell. Rellanaโs Twin Moon has a minimum intelligence requirement of 72, making it the all-time most difficult sorcery to cast in the history of Elden Ring, in lore. Rellana also casts a variety of glintblade sorceries in addition to probably also having quite high faith to utilize her fire blade. Rellana is also an excellent warrior.
So in lore, Rellana is a sorcerer on a similar level to one of the two by-far greatest sorcerers of all time, while also being an exceptional knight herself. Ranni and Rennala were purely sorcerers, while Rellana was essentially a battle mage.
Yeah, I think they may have made Rellana a bit too powerful. I would assume Rennala is still the superior sorcerer but just to show you guys that her best sorcery is exceeded in complexity by her twin who is also a knight lol.
So yeah, I would basically argue that Messmer, like Miquella, literally has a Demigod level being in his service as Rellana is explicitly a follower of Messmer in lore. Which I think would undoubtedly make Messmer one of the more impressive Demigods (like Godwyn and Miquella-ish level).
@Uncle Van @Sentinel @TheKnightOfTheSea @Jaguark101 @Seven7
Well, prior to the births of Radahn/Rykard/Ranni, Rennala is the greatest sorcerer in the history of Elden Ring by far. After Rennala, the best sorcerers in the history of Elden Ring are Azur, Lusat, and Sellen.
Azur and Lusat each discovered their own legendary sorceries (Comet Azur and Stars of Ruin respectively). Sellen also learns a legendary sorcery in the form of Founding Rain of Stars. These three are too my knowledge, the only sorcerers in the history of Elden Ring to learn and be capable of casting legendary sorceries.
Comet Azur has a minimum intelligence stat requirement of 60 intelligence. Stars of Ruin requires 43 intelligence. Founding Rain of Stars, 52.
We can gauge roughly how powerful these sorceries are supposed to be via there (in lore) high intelligence levels required to cast them. This is not just a gameplay mechanic, these sorceries are intended only for master sorcerers to be able to use in-lore.
Well.
Rennala is not only capable of casting Comet Azur, Comet Azur isnโt even her most powerful sorcery. Rennalaโs most powerful sorcery is Rennalaโs Full Moon, a signature sorcery she developed herself.
Rennalaโs Full Moon has a minimum intelligence requirement of 70. Meaning her sorcery is factually more difficult to cast than Comet Azur or any legendary sorcery, or even any other sorcery in the base game. I would also easily argue that RFM is intended to be a superior sorcery to Comet Azur in lore but that discussion is neither here nor there.
Which this makes sense, Rennala is a demigod, which means she (and spoiler alert, her children) were just destined to outright be more powerful than even the most powerful โmortalโ sorcerers in history. I do think the demigod title is somewhat political, IE Rennala becomes a Demigod only when Radagonโs political marriage to Marika is arranged, but to a certain extent being a Demigod is also about your power level tooโฆanyway.
Now controversial statement, I actually donโt think Radahn surpassed Rennala as a sorcerer. I think Radahnโs sorcery far exceeds the scale of Rennalaโs sorcery, but in terms of complexity Radahnโs sorceries are pretty middle-of-the-road. Now you can make mid tier or even low tier sorceries incredibly powerful in-lore depending on your intelligence levels, but at least in terms of the complexity of his sorceries, Radahn has nothing on Rennala.
Rykardโs only known sorcery is Rykardโs Rancor, which has an intelligence requirement of 40 and a faith requirement of 18, so we can say Rykard was also intended to be a low level legendary sorcerer on top of being a skilled warrior in lore, and also later a giant snake monster.
Ranni in lore also creates her own sorceries just like Rennala and Rykard, and she creates a mirror spell to Rennalaโs Full Moon, Ranniโs Dark Moon. This spell has an intelligence requirement of 68, but in lore is just an outright superior version of Rennalaโs Full Moon in just about every way aside from costing more FP to cast. So in lore we can argue that Ranni is at minimum a Rennala level sorcerer or perhaps even better.
So, with all that said, how does Rellana compare to all these other sorcerers?
Well, Rellanaโs Twin Moon was her own sorcery that she created when Rennala created her Full Moon spell. Rellanaโs Twin Moon has a minimum intelligence requirement of 72, making it the all-time most difficult sorcery to cast in the history of Elden Ring, in lore. Rellana also casts a variety of glintblade sorceries in addition to probably also having quite high faith to utilize her fire blade. Rellana is also an excellent warrior.
So in lore, Rellana is a sorcerer on a similar level to one of the two by-far greatest sorcerers of all time, while also being an exceptional knight herself. Ranni and Rennala were purely sorcerers, while Rellana was essentially a battle mage.
Yeah, I think they may have made Rellana a bit too powerful. I would assume Rennala is still the superior sorcerer but just to show you guys that her best sorcery is exceeded in complexity by her twin who is also a knight lol.
So yeah, I would basically argue that Messmer, like Miquella, literally has a Demigod level being in his service as Rellana is explicitly a follower of Messmer in lore. Which I think would undoubtedly make Messmer one of the more impressive Demigods (like Godwyn and Miquella-ish level).
@Uncle Van @Sentinel @TheKnightOfTheSea @Jaguark101 @Seven7
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