My Problem with femminist media types

Adam 🍎

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most hentai is produced in america,england or other english speaking countries
just look at the front page of r34 most of it would be lewd fanart of popular characters or oc's

Anyway, Your really desperate for a win here when hentai is your main argument
imagine having porn as a argument for why the culture of japan is bad as if their culture is animated porn or some sh-t
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hentai_companies

Totally not 95% of companies based in Japan
 
Japan tried to genocide Korea first time back in 16th century i think - Japanese invasion of Korea

Then after Ruso-Japanese war at the end of 19th century and up until 1945 Japanese did unspeakable terrors to Koreans and Chinese

In current time i can link you a good pdf file submited to Geneva convention about treatment of Koreans in Japan
Oh ya i know about imperial japan was pretty shit back in their days.
 

Rej

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They are probably far more racist than us.
they changed their politics drastically after WW2, since then they are one of the most liberal nations in the world
Japanese people most often travel between China, South Korea, Australia, Indonesia and Malaysia
why should japanese people travel if they are racist? and japan has open border policies for tourism
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Zolo

Cope Doctor
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Soon it will be imposible to think your own ideas... everything will be radical and everyone will pussy out and try to stay in the middle when that middle is too far left allready
 

your source does not say 95 percent of businesses in japan are hentai related, it shows a list of companies which make hentai and has most situated in the country of japan


most hentai companies being japanese does not mean all companies in japan are hentai focused


And even then your source is wikipedia of all things with a article that says needs additional verification
so real valid stuff were talking about
 
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Gol D. Roger

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Careful, because you are targetting EXACTLY the right problem, but at the same time I think you are missing your end point. The goal should not be to go easier on incels, we should not. NEVER. Instead, we must end toxic masculinity (the key reason for all the things you are mentionning) and the roots.
Attacking someone suffering over something or anything is the most irrational thing you could do for them. As for the rest of your post, I think you're turning this into something that it's not.

If i read correclty argument was that if men will call out women for wanting someone who earns 6 figures then women shouldnt have right to call men out when they reject someone fat. And that is totally fine IMO
Well, that would be fair only if women don't go for looks but they do. In fact, they look for more than just financial stability and looks from a man. That's what I am pointing out, and it's not necessarily a bad thing to have high standards. Women should have high standards because they have the right to choose what's best for them, as do men. I think it's meaningless to call out one another for wanting the best life we could haveβ€”everyone wants it if they're given an opportunity. I do think, however, that we should be humbled by society when we confuse what we desire with what we deserve.

And it's not about who deserves to be called out more. I am just pointing out how male and female preferences are treated differently by society.

Men will also aproach way more girls than women will approach men in their lives. So ofc because of that men will get more heartbroken.
Being heartbroken is perfectly fine, it aint a problem as long as you dont blame their girl for something you are at fault.
Yes, you said the same thing that I said a bit differently. Men approach way more women because they often get rejected and it's because they don't meet women's standards. We can't blame for that? no, we can't, and neither can the people that got rejected. They have the right to reject.
Could be difference of social life where you are, but here if one of my male friends is heartbroken we talk to him, support him and so on. That is what friends are for after all.
If your friends dont do that, get new friends
It's not about you and me but what happens in general on a broader scale. Not everyone's lucky enough to have friends who support than emotionally. Men are expected to deal with their issues on their own. So even getting new friends may not help. We are treated differently for literally the same thingsβ€”that is the truth without a shadow of a doubt. The standards issue that I pointed out above is one of many areas where this often happens.

If you get rejected over and over the problem is in you. Harsh, but it is the truth
Ofc no one should be name called as long as they strive to improve themselves.
However once a person start blaming others, doesnt improve himself at all, becomes a victim in his eyes - then yes he deserves to be called incel. I am all for men becoming best version of themselves, but that involves effort. And when i see lack of effort i see finger starting to be pointed at others.
Exactly, the problem is with you if you get rejected repeatedly. And we as a society have the right and moral obligation to give them a helping hand and tell them to improve themselves, but that's where the boundary ends. We don't get to call their lives worthless for not meeting some random woman's standards of her ideal partner. Some people get rejected over things that they can't really change. Some people genuinely try to improve but still fail to meet their woman's standards.

We can't go around calling out such people for not getting girls, making their already miserable lives more miserable. When we do that to the rejected, they'll start looking for ways to retaliate and starts attacking others over their own frustrations. Neither the person suffering nor the society gets anything meaningful from such transactions. So we should focus more on resolving the issues instead of focusing on who should be blamed the most.
 

Adam 🍎

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Well, that would be fair only if women don't go for looks but they do. In fact, they look for more than just financial stability and looks from a man. That's what I am pointing out, and it's not necessarily a bad thing to have high standards. Women should have high standards because they have the right to choose what's best for them, as do men. I think it's meaningless to call out one another for wanting the best life we could haveβ€”everyone wants it if they're given an opportunity. I do think, however, that we should be humbled by society when we confuse what we desire with what we deserve.

And it's not about who deserves to be called out more. I am just pointing out how male and female preferences are treated differently by society.
Without sounding too much caveman like, women because of biological and cultural reasons always want the best "mate". Historically it was because of safety and overall quality of life reasons.

In todays time that carried through the years hence why women don't "date" as much as men. If you put a woman in the room with 10 guys she would maybe pick 1-3 that she would consider a possible "mate"

Men on other side, you can put 10 women in front of us and we would most likely be able to hook up with 7+. Cause unlike women we don't necessarily search for the best mate.

I am well aware this sounds caveman af but it is just historical facts.

It's not about you and me but what happens in general on a broader scale. Not everyone's lucky enough to have friends who support than emotionally. Men are expected to deal with their issues on their own. So even getting new friends may not help. We are treated differently for literally the same thingsβ€”that is the truth without a shadow of a doubt. The standards issue that I pointed out above is one of many areas where this often happens.
If you don't have friends that can support you emotionally there is family, therapist, priest and so on... there are always options to let out your emotions. I don't buy the whole men must be stoic, hell no, men should show feelings but not let feelings rule over them.

Sure there are unfortunate souls that don't even have options i said, but even then a man must have a way to release emotions, whether it is gym, playing games, something that lets them release pent up stress.

And we as a society have the right and moral obligation to give them a helping hand and tell them to improve themselves, but that's where the boundary ends. We don't get to call their lives worthless for not meeting some random woman's standards of her ideal partner. Some people get rejected over things that they can't really change. Some people genuinely try to improve but still fail to meet their woman's standards.
Oh i totally get that, i was a fat fuck when i started gym and i had bunch of good people help me out and not ridicule me (gym bros ftw).

Getting rejected happens to all of us, you figure out what went wrong and fix it.
Ok so if 4 girls rejected me because they like more muscular men - maybe i should hit the gym
Ok so if 4 girl rejected me because they don't find me smart - maybe i should hit the library/school
and repeat for every problem you can identify.

Is it hard? You bet your ass it is.

But what is the alternative? Remain the same person you are? Getting rejected same way over and over? If you wann stay like that sure... but if that person starts blaming others for their problems - only then i'll say fuck that person, that is an incel
 
Oh i totally get that, i was a fat fuck when i started gym and i had bunch of good people help me out and not ridicule me (gym bros ftw).

Getting rejected happens to all of us, you figure out what went wrong and fix it.
Ok so if 4 girls rejected me because they like more muscular men - maybe i should hit the gym
Ok so if 4 girl rejected me because they don't find me smart - maybe i should hit the library/school
and repeat for every problem you can identify.

Men dont gain anything from dating anyway
Women gains a atm,free housing and emotional support

Where men lose money and lose time that they could be spending on employment


This is not a fair system, dating
you have to workout and put so much effort into this just for a month of on and off sex where she then leaves finds another guy
 
:few: I feel like there's a lot of bitterness here

Men dont gain anything from dating anyway
Women gains a atm,free housing and emotional support

Where men lose money and lose time that they could be spending on employment


This is not a fair system, dating
you have to workout and put so much effort into this just for a month of on and off sex where she then leaves finds another guy
Dude what?

Men wouldn't be dating if they didn't get anything from dating.
 
Dating is one of those things where you want it but once it, It's not at all how you expected
much like how kids view adults like it's fun get to do what you want at least how kids see it but once you grow up, you realize now you have to start paying for yourself and start looking for a job not as fun as it made out to be
 
Well your parents got you. And by your own words now they got nothing
You dont be have be dating to have kids
My parents have not seen each other in 21 years not that my anecdotes matter

but there's plenty of kids which are parentless or just have a single mom or dad so a traditional household is not exactly required to have kids
 
And they gain sex minimum by dating, there ya go.
you realize that also can just go on tinder rn and have a hookup without dating right? Sex is not exclusive to dating not whatsoever especially in the modern day
so touting that as a benefit of dating is stupid as it's not a reward particular to it
 
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