General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
I know but do you know you derived wrong conclusion because your arguments were flawed?
You cannot derive wrong conclusion unless there is something wrong with your argument.
It's elementary level logic bruhhh ..
It's like saying 2+2=5 is wrong because you got wrong conclusion as sum ...but you know how to add or know the numbers.
No... you added wrong numbers and made calculation mistake to reach to the answer 5...
You cannot derive wrong conclusion unless there is something wrong with your argument.
It's elementary level logic bruhhh ..
It's like saying 2+2=5 is wrong because you got wrong conclusion as sum ...but you know how to add or know the numbers.
No... you added wrong numbers and made calculation mistake to reach to the answer 5...
What if in that specific case it wasn't the case. Ok, I don't like this theory but lets look at it a bit: What if... Oda planned for Carrot to join, but instead decided at the last second for an unknown reason that he wouldn't do it therefore retconning his writings about Carrot.
In such a case, my conclusion "Carrot will join" would be wrong. but my reasonning "Carrot was created like a strawhat" would be right because of ALL the things I said (10 pillars / Golden rules / Carrot's characterization).
Don't you think ?
Well.. spoiler: There is no way to disprove that theory. So unless you are a relative of Oda, what I said could be relevant. Meaning that until further informations about the creation of Carrot.....
.. I'm wrong in my conclusion but I COULD be right on my reasonning.
Elementary logic.
In such a case, my conclusion "Carrot will join" would be wrong. but my reasonning "Carrot was created like a strawhat" would be right because of ALL the things I said (10 pillars / Golden rules / Carrot's characterization).
Don't you think ?
Well.. spoiler: There is no way to disprove that theory. So unless you are a relative of Oda, what I said could be relevant. Meaning that until further informations about the creation of Carrot.....
.. I'm wrong in my conclusion but I COULD be right on my reasonning.
Elementary logic.
Assuming that oda changed his intent last minute is totally illogical assumption to feed your denial and make yourself feel better.
She was off screened for most wano - ,4 years long arc. that's not last minute.
And, If carrot was created like a SH .....she would have been a SH. Just like how other SHs are.
She was never created like a SH...and thus didn't join. It's simple as this.
Many people picked on it.. with some exceptions like you.
Your theory was disproved the moment oda started off -screnning carrot and didn't make her join.
Burden of proof lies on you... you are wrong until you show us oda changed it last minute which you can't.
Case closed
She was off screened for most wano - ,4 years long arc. that's not last minute.
And, If carrot was created like a SH .....she would have been a SH. Just like how other SHs are.
She was never created like a SH...and thus didn't join. It's simple as this.
Many people picked on it.. with some exceptions like you.
Your theory was disproved the moment oda started off -screnning carrot and didn't make her join.
Burden of proof lies on you... you are wrong until you show us oda changed it last minute which you can't.
Case closed
No that's just semantics... You're theory is disproved based on the fact that Carrot did not join. You're reasoning is also false, In either way based on your own justifications or not, She ain't there so you're Pillar's is proven to be wrong. She couldn't pass the bar, So you're probably missing something. Oof Not a far gone conclusion there.
Yes, obviously it's about freedom. That's why people say her story isn't finished. She's still chained to Wano by a sense of duty. Ask yourself this. Why would Yamato protecting Momo hurt his pride if she's there because she wants to be? Wouldn't that make her just the same as the scabbards? The only reasonable conclusion is that she's only staying because Momo is too weak to protect Wano. That's what hurts his pride. That's also why she says she'll find a goal to work toward in Wano in response to Zoro's comment about Momo's pride. If she has a real reason to stay aside from protecting Wano, then he'll accept it. If she already wants to stay to explore Wano, then why dies she need to find a new goal for the sake of Momo's pride?
1. This is literally what some of you guys have been saying for years lol
2. This is a real possibility, you have no way to disprove it
Last minute, in term of writing, might mean a lot of chapter granted.
Not necessaraly. You are denying a real possibility here.
I'm not the one who keep saying "Naito killed Carrot's future"
Actually no.
This
was actually helping my theory and was nothing but a confirmation of it
Actually no. The burden of proof lies on YOU. I already proved that Carrot was build like a strawhat with the 5 golden rules and the 10 pillars. Now you need to prove to ME that Oda didn't change his mindset at the last minute.
Indeed
Nop. The 5 golden rules and the 10 pillar are still relevant to predict a new strawhat
Same thing that reborn. If Oda changed his mind at the last minute not to include Carrot, my pillar could be true but my conclusion could be wrong. You have no way of proving that this possibility is non existent.
The problem is that they are missing the point.
The freedom to choose is in Yamato's case the BIGGEST freedom. Why ? Because that seeking for freedom was setup during the fight between Yamato and Kaido.
You need to understand that Yamato became the EXACT OPPOSITE that her father wanted her to become.
In that case, Vivi is still chained to Alabsta by a sense of duty, so Vivi is not really free.
Do you see the problem with that reasonning ? Or not ?
Because hurting Momo's pride means that Momo is not yet capable of defending himself. This has nothing to do with Yamato staying.
And I agree with that. That's a sence of responsibility. But you need to understand that she was FREE to make her own choice. The point of Yamato's arc is not about the nature of the choice, its about the possibility of making that choice in the first place. Something that was denied to her by her dad for many years.
2. This is a real possibility, you have no way to disprove it
Last minute, in term of writing, might mean a lot of chapter granted.
Not necessaraly. You are denying a real possibility here.
I'm not the one who keep saying "Naito killed Carrot's future"
Actually no.
This
was actually helping my theory and was nothing but a confirmation of it
Actually no. The burden of proof lies on YOU. I already proved that Carrot was build like a strawhat with the 5 golden rules and the 10 pillars. Now you need to prove to ME that Oda didn't change his mindset at the last minute.
Indeed
Nop. The 5 golden rules and the 10 pillar are still relevant to predict a new strawhat
Same thing that reborn. If Oda changed his mind at the last minute not to include Carrot, my pillar could be true but my conclusion could be wrong. You have no way of proving that this possibility is non existent.
The problem is that they are missing the point.
The freedom to choose is in Yamato's case the BIGGEST freedom. Why ? Because that seeking for freedom was setup during the fight between Yamato and Kaido.
You need to understand that Yamato became the EXACT OPPOSITE that her father wanted her to become.
In that case, Vivi is still chained to Alabsta by a sense of duty, so Vivi is not really free.
Do you see the problem with that reasonning ? Or not ?
Because hurting Momo's pride means that Momo is not yet capable of defending himself. This has nothing to do with Yamato staying.
And I agree with that. That's a sence of responsibility. But you need to understand that she was FREE to make her own choice. The point of Yamato's arc is not about the nature of the choice, its about the possibility of making that choice in the first place. Something that was denied to her by her dad for many years.
I mean Kizaru is based on one of Oda's favourite actors... While he was a lecherous antagonist in one of his more famous movies, I hear he also had an awkward (but well meaning) father role too. Imagine Kizaru trying to help out Ussop only to scare him shitless, or Robin making morbid assumptions of his innocent/helpful intentions.
Egghead is a massive disaster for the WG, and Lucci stays a government dog to the end and informs Kizaru he's been fired for his gross incompetence and probable obstruction. The only thing Kizaru has to say to the Straw Hats: "Heyyyyy.... Think I can catch a ride?"
Egghead is a massive disaster for the WG, and Lucci stays a government dog to the end and informs Kizaru he's been fired for his gross incompetence and probable obstruction. The only thing Kizaru has to say to the Straw Hats: "Heyyyyy.... Think I can catch a ride?"
If Lucci turn 180° and is meant to become a strawhat then he will later depict the 10 pillars anyway. If he becomes a strawhat and depict none of the most ofundamental pillar, I'll admit that I'm wrong. But the probabilities is close to none.
She was on Zou with the strawhats all the way in fact.
My conclusion was wrong.
She was on Zou with the strawhats all the way in fact.
My conclusion was wrong.
1. This is literally what some of you guys have been saying for years lol
2. This is a real possibility, you have no way to disprove it
Last minute, in term of writing, might mean a lot of chapter granted.
Not necessaraly. You are denying a real possibility here.
I'm not the one who keep saying "Naito killed Carrot's future"
Actually no.
This
was actually helping my theory and was nothing but a confirmation of it
Actually no. The burden of proof lies on YOU. I already proved that Carrot was build like a strawhat with the 5 golden rules and the 10 pillars. Now you need to prove to ME that Oda didn't change his mindset at the last minute.
Indeed
Nop. The 5 golden rules and the 10 pillar are still relevant to predict a new strawhat
Same thing that reborn. If Oda changed his mind at the last minute not to include Carrot, my pillar could be true but my conclusion could be wrong. You have no way of proving that this possibility is non existent.
The problem is that they are missing the point.
The freedom to choose is in Yamato's case the BIGGEST freedom. Why ? Because that seeking for freedom was setup during the fight between Yamato and Kaido.
You need to understand that Yamato became the EXACT OPPOSITE that her father wanted her to become.
In that case, Vivi is still chained to Alabsta by a sense of duty, so Vivi is not really free.
Do you see the problem with that reasonning ? Or not ?
Because hurting Momo's pride means that Momo is not yet capable of defending himself. This has nothing to do with Yamato staying.
And I agree with that. That's a sence of responsibility. But you need to understand that she was FREE to make her own choice. The point of Yamato's arc is not about the nature of the choice, its about the possibility of making that choice in the first place. Something that was denied to her by her dad for many years.
2. This is a real possibility, you have no way to disprove it
Last minute, in term of writing, might mean a lot of chapter granted.
Not necessaraly. You are denying a real possibility here.
I'm not the one who keep saying "Naito killed Carrot's future"
Actually no.
This
was actually helping my theory and was nothing but a confirmation of it
Actually no. The burden of proof lies on YOU. I already proved that Carrot was build like a strawhat with the 5 golden rules and the 10 pillars. Now you need to prove to ME that Oda didn't change his mindset at the last minute.
Indeed
Nop. The 5 golden rules and the 10 pillar are still relevant to predict a new strawhat
Same thing that reborn. If Oda changed his mind at the last minute not to include Carrot, my pillar could be true but my conclusion could be wrong. You have no way of proving that this possibility is non existent.
The problem is that they are missing the point.
The freedom to choose is in Yamato's case the BIGGEST freedom. Why ? Because that seeking for freedom was setup during the fight between Yamato and Kaido.
You need to understand that Yamato became the EXACT OPPOSITE that her father wanted her to become.
In that case, Vivi is still chained to Alabsta by a sense of duty, so Vivi is not really free.
Do you see the problem with that reasonning ? Or not ?
Because hurting Momo's pride means that Momo is not yet capable of defending himself. This has nothing to do with Yamato staying.
And I agree with that. That's a sence of responsibility. But you need to understand that she was FREE to make her own choice. The point of Yamato's arc is not about the nature of the choice, its about the possibility of making that choice in the first place. Something that was denied to her by her dad for many years.
You had a theory which stated based on certain arguments carrot will join....
She didn't join
Which means for us your theory was wrong because in manga she didn't join.
Now you say your arguments were right and oda might have changed the decision at last minute. There is no evidence regarding it.
It's you who has to lay down proof regarding it...not us because it's you who has came up with this weird assumption that oda changed it at last minute and not us...so burden of proof lies on you...
Do one thing...take a flight to Japan....get an interview from oda ...and get us that video.
And, if you can't..... Then take your L and move aside because as of now you got everything wrong.... EVERYTHING WRONG
Btw, it's time to rename yourself WRONGIKO