Powers & Abilities Oden and Kaido surpassed Whitbeard and Roger | full analysis
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I have my doubts about Zoro "besting" the Hybrid form. It wasn't made clear what that deflection really was; did he deflect Hybrid Kaido's attack or did he just deflect a still standing club to have a good shot at his body. With Kaido not really caring about Ashura as he believed he will take it easily.
Compare it to Kaido going serious and using Haoshoku barriers.
Compare it to Kaido going serious and using Haoshoku barriers.
Kaido's arms and the club are in the air so he is preparing to slam down on Zoro and gets blitzed in that moment.
The clashes before blitz suggest that Kaido has put up a haki barrier in front of himself and that's what Zoro is clashing with.
Either way, Zoro has bested Kaido in close combat and worked his way up to a clean hit, it wasnt for free like in Oden's case.
The size is pretty much the same if you realize that Zoro's scar doesnt begin where Oden's ends but begins from the intersection of two lines from Oden. The aftermath is simply due to storytelling, that was the last thing Oden ever did to Kaido, if Kaido shrugged it off like Asura then Oden has achieved nothing which isnt an option for Oda who wants to hype Oden up.
Once Zoro is done with Kaido he wont just collapse, he will die.
The difference between Asura and Paradise Waterfall is simply the dramatic storytelling requirement in Oden's case.
The scars are pretty much the same and in case that Zoro didnt even use CoC, it is looking even more impressive.
The clashes before blitz suggest that Kaido has put up a haki barrier in front of himself and that's what Zoro is clashing with.
Either way, Zoro has bested Kaido in close combat and worked his way up to a clean hit, it wasnt for free like in Oden's case.
The size is pretty much the same if you realize that Zoro's scar doesnt begin where Oden's ends but begins from the intersection of two lines from Oden. The aftermath is simply due to storytelling, that was the last thing Oden ever did to Kaido, if Kaido shrugged it off like Asura then Oden has achieved nothing which isnt an option for Oda who wants to hype Oden up.
Once Zoro is done with Kaido he wont just collapse, he will die.
The difference between Asura and Paradise Waterfall is simply the dramatic storytelling requirement in Oden's case.
The scars are pretty much the same and in case that Zoro didnt even use CoC, it is looking even more impressive.
Oden made a bigger scar!
Anyway,I think prime Roger and Whitebeard are in league of their own,maybe Xebec was on their level,who knows!
Old WB was called World's strongest man and Kaido was around already,commanding the beast pirates and all that jazz!
Kaido is strong,but i think Black Beard and Sakazuki will be stronger and give more trouble to Luffy and the straw hats!
Anyway,I think prime Roger and Whitebeard are in league of their own,maybe Xebec was on their level,who knows!
Old WB was called World's strongest man and Kaido was around already,commanding the beast pirates and all that jazz!
Kaido is strong,but i think Black Beard and Sakazuki will be stronger and give more trouble to Luffy and the straw hats!
How much bigger, did you measure it?
Roger and WB were in the league of their own ONLY IN THEIR ERA, not across all eras.
Kaido was above WB already 20 years ago while Oden was comparable to WB/Roger.
Xebec may have been great before Roger/WB era but when you line up the primes of each era, nothing special.
Old WB was weaker than both Mihawk and Kaido and perhaps weaker than all other Emperors that we see in the current era.
Blackbeard will lose to DF-less Luffy while Sakazuki may fall onto Sabo, neither of the two were ever called World's Strongest...
Roger and WB were in the league of their own ONLY IN THEIR ERA, not across all eras.
Kaido was above WB already 20 years ago while Oden was comparable to WB/Roger.
Xebec may have been great before Roger/WB era but when you line up the primes of each era, nothing special.
Old WB was weaker than both Mihawk and Kaido and perhaps weaker than all other Emperors that we see in the current era.
Blackbeard will lose to DF-less Luffy while Sakazuki may fall onto Sabo, neither of the two were ever called World's Strongest...
Kaido's subordinate declares his captain the strongest, it's now confirmed guys.
Zoro will be the strongest character by EoW, @nik87 was right all along.
Oden's arsenal:
- using Enma perfectly
- Haoshoku coating
Zoro's arsenal by EoW:
- using Enma perfectly
- Haoshoku coating
- Black blade incoming
Both are the only characters to put permanent damage on Kaido while WB and Roger weren't able to do the same.
Zoro will be the strongest character by EoW, @nik87 was right all along.
Oden's arsenal:
- using Enma perfectly
- Haoshoku coating
Zoro's arsenal by EoW:
- using Enma perfectly
- Haoshoku coating
- Black blade incoming
Both are the only characters to put permanent damage on Kaido while WB and Roger weren't able to do the same.
