How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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Ok so what do you think is the deal with Oden's aura around Enma kaido is sensing?
Is it the key to how Enma becomes a black blade this arc?
Highly doubtful.
Oden's Aura around the sword is only seen by Kaido because that's the sword which almost killed him. Given that the shading is not for haki nor is it for flames and sane shading is repeated in this chapter, that is the most logical conclusion.
 
I agree that Kong Gatling did the most damage, but I think you're greatly underestimating the damage Tatsumaki did (see above).
I need to see a clearer picture and compare it to the previous chapters. I hesitated a bit and Oda has been very inconsistent with the damage done to Kaido. I don't want to jump to conclusion like I did with the provider's hiding infos and interpreting them his own way.

Besides Kaido's recovery's ability is too OP right now.
 

Worst

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*Fish Lord you mean and he still weaker than Luffy and wouldn't stand a chance if not for the time-limit on G4

An admiral laugh-diff Crydo of the Fish - this is a fact, the great Monkey of Yellow - Kizaru-sama - want to this this for fun but Oda made the great Dog of Red - Akainu, AKA Papakuzi - to warn him of the mighty samurai that one (Oden, yam) of them still hunt Crydo of th Fish to this day! 20 years after his death!

Also LOL to use hype to supprt a weak characrer like Crydo of the Fish who got plenty of hype and keep dissapointed until this day? Stop trolling pleb.
Base Kaido could take out G4 Luffy without too much effort as it is right now, hybrid form Kaido is on another league...luffy better unlock awakening or G5 in the next couple of chapters (if Kidd Law Killer and Zoro can stand it till luffy recovers)
 
Different shading is fine, Zoro will do much better stuff than what they did.
It's certainly not anything belonging to a dead man.
Oden's aura never left Wano, whenever someone hurts Kaido he is sniffing Oden, lol.
Just a PTSD.

How many time more do you expect your fave to be carried?
If you cant predict the whole amount, try just the next 10 mins. :yasu:
Kaido is dead and problem is solved. We dont need to fight anymore.
 

Doggo

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How does Katakuri react to Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki.



It only appears on Enma. Zoro's other swords are hardened right?



I don't really understand what you're saying? I didn't revise upwards my estimate of Cracker/Kata, I revised downwards my estimate of Boundman.
  • We know Kata is a YC 1.
  • We know Cracker is a YC 3.
  • We didn't know where Boundman stood.


  • I never thought what was on top of the skull was massive mountains?
    :choppawhat:
  • There are small mountains (a few hundred metres high) at the base of Onigashima island, not on the skull itself.
  • Dragon Kaido is hundreds of metres long.
By not letting him use it?
He can see the future, after all.
Why let someone use a move you know you cant avoid if you know when it's coming?
 
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Jo_Ndule

Reach reach reach. That’s all these people do when it comes to Kidd. Kidd is simply surprised because Kaido never showed his hybrid form to him in their previous fight. But somehow what people got from this is, “kiDd HaSnT FouGhT ZoAns.”
:milaugh:I guess Luffy doesn't know about hybrids
...being shocked even though he has seen hybrdi Drake, hybrid lucci

I guess Law is dumb to question if it is hybrid

These guys are just lame
 
I still want to see Luffy use snakeman and tankman first. Hybrid should be slightly less durable than full zoan so Snakeman should be a decent fit.
Kaido still has awakening himself to get through.
Nothing says that Hybrid won't be less durable than his dragon form given how resistant Kaido already is in his human form and that hybrid should be a titan of attack power and physical strength and other abilities, whereas Snakeman clearly lacks AP compared to Boundman which is clearly not enough against Kaido and is an immobile target when he's attacking.

Using Snakeman against Kaido would be a blunder.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
At this point there has to be g5 for luffy we seen everything already and zoro used almost every one of his best moves except ashura as well
Well there's the off chance Zoro developed a new power up during the timeskip, just like Luffy didn't develop G4 in Dressrosa but did it during the TS. Zoro's moment is arrived, just like Luffy's during that arc, so perhaps we will witness some new sparkling greatness.

It doesn't necessarily have his eye, not saying that, it could be anything.

And for Luffy's G5, Oda pretty much confirmed it, it will occur. I doubt it's this arc however. But G5 will be very useful against Akainu.
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
How does Katakuri react to Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki.



It only appears on Enma. Zoro's other swords are hardened right?



I don't really understand what you're saying? I didn't revise upwards my estimate of Cracker/Kata, I revised downwards my estimate of Boundman.
  • We know Kata is a YC 1.
  • We know Cracker is a YC 3.
  • We didn't know where Boundman stood.


  • I never thought what was on top of the skull was massive mountains?
    :choppawhat:
  • There are small mountains (a few hundred metres high) at the base of Onigashima island, not on the skull itself.
  • Dragon Kaido is hundreds of metres long.
And no. He used it on all 3. You can clearly see all of them black in the attack panel.
 

Cinera

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Tatsumaki is Commander level as it didn't do much nor put Kaido down for as long as Kong Gatling.
You're wrong:



  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
    • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido to the ground.
  • Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido. This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage.
    • She did not comment that Killer, Law or Kidd's attack damaged Kaido.
    • It should be more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Rifle).
    • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
  • Kaido acknowledged that Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki hurt him
    • The only other attack Kaido acknowledged hurt him was Red Roc.
      • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife a "trick":
      • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is the only successful attack to receive special recognition/treatment from the Yonkou
    • The other was Luffy's Red Roc.

Kong Gatling might have dealt more damage than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki, but there's nowhere it's on another level from it:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up much more blood than Kong Gatling
    • It also cut Kaido up and drew blood from him directly
  • It overwhelmed and completely destroyed Kaido's named tornado attack

@WesMidnight, @Doggo, @Luffy is the mc
 
Different shading is fine, Zoro will do much better stuff than what they did.
It's certainly not anything belonging to a dead man.
Oden's aura never left Wano, whenever someone hurts Kaido he is sniffing Oden, lol.
Just a PTSD.
The onomatopoeia is also different.
Oden's Aura is basically Oden's will/spirit which we all know is passed on through swords. Given that Kaido is the only one seeing that presence, it should be the case.
 
The narrative setup for Luffy becoming the WSS is insignificant compared to Zoro fulfilling Oden's will. The main argument in favour is the belief that Luffy will shatter Kaido's myth and Luffy's claim that he would surpass him.

Luffy has never expressed the desire to become the strongest.
Zoro fulfilling Oden's will is insignificant to Luffy becoming PK. One of Luffy's requirement of becoming PK = surpassing Kaidou. So yeah going by that narrative, Luffy will be new WSC to replace Kaidou, before playing ping-pong with BB over WSC-WSM status.
 
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Jo_Ndule

How does Katakuri react to Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki.



It only appears on Enma. Zoro's other swords are hardened right?



I don't really understand what you're saying? I didn't revise upwards my estimate of Cracker/Kata, I revised downwards my estimate of Boundman.
  • We know Kata is a YC 1.
  • We know Cracker is a YC 3.
  • We didn't know where Boundman stood.


  • I never thought what was on top of the skull was massive mountains?
    :choppawhat:
  • There are small mountains (a few hundred metres high) at the base of Onigashima island, not on the skull itself.
  • Dragon Kaido is hundreds of metres long.
Zoro won't even do that attack

Katakuri would prevent him from launching any attack which he sees it is gonna be tricky

Zoro has nothing to bypass Fs... you guys don't understand it
Luffy at one point couldn't even move left or right coz kata knew where he was going/what he was gonna do in advance

Zoro blitzing or whatever on kaido means nada...kaido doesn't have FS nor better reaction speed than Katakuri
Not even attack speed except in hybrid form perhaps
 
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