How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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But but hiken is top tier
BM was sure kaido would be heavily damaged lol

Yet Linlin shocked this chapter that Zoro can cut kaido from the oustide/inside with enma.

BM and Kaido only worry/notices Enma and Oden's haki. It is never about Zoro's power/haki
Yet, they weren't worried about emma when Zoro attacked him the first time. That proves the sword doesn't have Oden's haki in it and it's Zoro's power they are worried about.

Either the sword has Oden haki and it's always present or it doesn't have his haki.

Remember, the retrainers used "Oden's ryuo". Properly comprehend the manga.
 
You claimed Gatling did less damage than Tatsumaki.
Pathetic big talk, so much for accepting your Ls.
Clown.
what did gatling do :shame: he spammed those punches for at least twenty to thirty times and kaido stood up fine after that :risitavirus: AND THIS IS UR BOY USING ALL OF HIS HAKI HERE :virusprot: HE didn't even make a feat comparable to togen totsuka from scabbards all those punches kid expected a lot from luffy punching attacks :risicheck:
 
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I cant believe Oden while dead , will carry Zoro to become WSS

Oden is still powerful even while he is dead
This guy is some God or what ? His haki is the key for zoro to fight and cut kaido, for zoro to grow stronger and be WSS
 
Indeed, he is a true threat



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That's why Oda had to restrict him :josad:
The other Supernova needs to shine now while Luffy recovers and then be saved by Luffy when the situation looks dire!
I am sure Oda loves this drawback as he can create so much drama from it. The need of Luffy being saved and then the need of Luffy coming back to save them it all comes full circle.
 
I think we are really gonna get Gear 5 now. We've already seen everything Luffy's got. He 's even ran out of G4 once now. Improvement in haki is also unlikely since he just made improvements not long ago. The only logical powerup is G5 or awakening. They definitely won't be able to do what they did to Kaido before now in his hybrid form, not to mention Big Mom seems like she's really getting into this. Its time for everyone to show something different the next time we see more of this fight....
 
what did gatling do :shame: he spammed those punches for at least twenty to thirty times and kaido stood up fine after that :risitavirus: AND THIS IS UR BOY USING ALL OF HIS HAKI HERE :virusprot: HE didn't even make a feat comparable to togen totsuka from scabbards all those punches kid expected a lot from luffy punching attacks :risicheck:
Did internal damage to Kaido... Something that took him THREE PAGES to recover from.
As opposed to Zoro's attack which he instantly recovered and counter attacked...
 

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Fair enough.


I claim that Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki did more damage than every SN's attack bar Kong Gatling; do you disagree?

My reasoning:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido to the ground.
  • Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido. This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage.
    • She did not comment that Killer, Law or Kidd's attack damaged Kaido.
    • It should be more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Rifle).
    • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
  • Kaido acknowledged that Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki hurt him
    • The only other attack Kaido acknowledged hurt him was Red Roc.
      • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife a "trick":
      • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki received the same recognition/treatment as Luffy's Red Roc
  • He directly deploys a tornado in response to Zoro's attack


Kaido called Law and Killer's attacks "tricks" and "vexing" respectively. The only attacks that did significant damage to Kaido:
  • Luffy's Red Roc
  • Luffy's Kong Gatling
  • Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki
Luffy's Kong Gun, Kong Rifle and Rhino Schneider were included among the "tricks".


See above. Only three attacks actually did significant damage.


@sanjikun I was very wrong on Kong Gatling. Kong Gatling >>>>> Kong Organ.



  • Kaido's words also imply that Kidd has yet to deal significant damage.
  • Kidd seemed very shocked.

Anyway, you know me, I change my mind with each chapter. If Kidd shows up during the 10 minutes, I will wank him as well.



I don't think Pre Udon Boundman had some godly offensive prowess. Excluding King Kong Gun, his other attacks were mid high tier level.

BTW, I think others have addressed the Onigashima size issues adequately, so I'm not going to repeat it (but basically, Oda isn't very consistent with scaling, so looking for the most unflattering panels to downplay Onigashima's size is disingenuous).



I agree that Kong Gatling did the most damage, but I think you're greatly underestimating the damage Tatsumaki did (see above).
I still disagree on the "more damage part".
Kaido was showing signs of pain by screaming or having blanked eyes every hit he took.
His reaction to Zoro's attack is still tied to him thinking about Oden and realizing Enma is Oden's blade.
So far, for me, it's the same Oden haki BS.
But now, since that will probably get out of the way (no more reason to be surprised now), I'll be more inclined to believe Zoro's prowess.
Again, so far, for me, it's just more Oden wank.

But honestly, this is not what bothers me the most.
What bothered me the most was the clear exageration the first set of spoilers did to hype Zoro. He even drew Zoro's blade non black to make people think he managed to hit Kaido without using blackening.
That's low. Really low.
 
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