How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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*Fish Lord you mean and he still weaker than Luffy and wouldn't stand a chance if not for the time-limit on G4

An admiral laugh-diff Crydo of the Fish - this is a fact, the great Monkey of Yellow - Kizaru-sama - want to this this for fun but Oda made the great Dog of Red - Akainu, AKA Papakuzi - to warn him of the mighty samurai that one (Oden, yam) of them still hunt Crydo of th Fish to this day! 20 years after his death!

Also LOL to use hype to supprt a weak characrer like Crydo of the Fish who got plenty of hype and keep dissapointed until this day? Stop trolling pleb.
that's good ... now cry ... cry more

if you can't be funny ... at least cry ... :gokulaugh:
 
Everybody seems shocked
Luffy wonder if its kaidou
Law wonders if it is his hybrid

They never saw Kaido use hybrid form before

Stop trying to make it seem as if Kidd doesn't know about hybrids.
Reach reach reach. That’s all these people do when it comes to Kidd. Kidd is simply surprised because Kaido never showed his hybrid form to him in their previous fight. But somehow what people got from this is, “kiDd HaSnT FouGhT ZoAns.”
 
I think we are really gonna get Gear 5 now. We've already seen everything Luffy's got. He 's even ran out of G4 once now. Improvement in haki is also unlikely since he just made improvements not long ago. The only logical powerup is G5 or awakening. They definitely won't be able to do what they did to Kaido before now in his hybrid form, not to mention Big Mom seems like she's really getting into this. Its time for everyone to show something different the next time we see more of this fight....
I still want to see Luffy use snakeman and tankman first. Hybrid should be slightly less durable than full zoan so Snakeman should be a decent fit.
Kaido still has awakening himself to get through.
 

Cinera

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Problem with Katakuri is actually landing a hit on him.
He is, so far, the only character that uses CoO in a satisfactory manner, actually constantly using it to avoid all attacks by deforming his body, making it seen he is some kind of "super logia".

Direct CoA clash? Zoro wins. Thing is, can he pull a Mihawk flashback to learn CoO mid fight as Luffy did?
Well katakuri is a different type of fighter. Zoro will need high speed continuous attacks more than AP which is required for kaido. Its easier for zoro to fight characters like queen/jack/cracker/king than katakuri....
How does Katakuri react to Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki.


It seems like the whatever was around Zoro's sword last chapter during Hiryu Kaen was Oden's Aura not flames nor haki flames. Same Aura is also shown this chapter and it is something only Kaido senses because he was cut by Oden using that sword
It only appears on Enma. Zoro's other swords are hardened right?


What does that say of the two commanders that fought Bound Man? One stalled him out, the other completely dominated him?
I don't really understand what you're saying? I didn't revise upwards my estimate of Cracker/Kata, I revised downwards my estimate of Boundman.
  • We know Kata is a YC 1.
  • We know Cracker is a YC 3.
  • We didn't know where Boundman stood.

I’m fine with believing this when it comes to Oda drawing moderately inconsistent character heights.

But believing that the Skull of Onigashima is surrounded by massive mountains that we only ever see from far away, and up close they all look like tiny rocks?

Nah dude, that’s your cognitive dissonance, no artist is that terrible.
  • I never thought what was on top of the skull was massive mountains?
    :choppawhat:
  • There are small mountains (a few hundred metres high) at the base of Onigashima island, not on the skull itself.
  • Dragon Kaido is hundreds of metres long.
 
Only Luffy and Zoro matter, and Zoro would never forgive himself if he lets himself get knocked out if his captain is out of commission.
It's far too late in the story for Zoro to be cursing his weakness, so we're not going to see Zoro get knocked out.

In general, I think people are too focused on rigid powerscaling. Accept this fundamental truth:
"Characters are as strong as the story requires them to be".

Right now, Luffy is out of commission.

Zoro holds Luffy's life above his own, and even above his dream:


He has unshakeable confidence in Luffy:


If he can't protect his captain, his dream is worthless.


Preskip at Thriller Bark, Zoro was too weak to protect his captain and so he had no choice but to offer up his head instead.

Because of that weakness, Zoro had to lay aside his pride and beg his rival Mihawk to train him:


It is an insult to Zoro's character for him to allow himself to be defeated, when his captain needs him the most.
  • Zoro holds Luffy's life above all.
  • He holds fulfilling Luffy's dream above his own ambition.

If Zoro must transcend himself to protect Luffy, then he will. He continue to fight while dead on his feet in order to be able to surpass Mihawk:


Zoro holds Luffy's life even above surpassing Mihawk.

If Zoro gets knocked out while Luffy is out of commission:
  • We will get a repeat of Thriller Bark with Zoro cursing his own weakness and inadequacy.
  • It would be repetitive character development (essentially redoing Thriller Bark and Sabaody)
  • Zoro's training for 2 years with Hawkeyes would be worthless.
    • Zoro did not train for 2 years to become stronger so that he may surpass Hawkeyes. He trained for 2 years to become stronger so that he could protect Luffy.
    • Failing to protect Luffy when Luffy needs him the most will be a regression for Zoro's character.

The narrative requires that Zoro be strong enough to protect his captain until he recovers, and so Zoro will be.

Mmm, don't think this is a great hill to die on. There's a good chance that Kaido and Meme just KO everyone to end act 3.
 
Kaido can't hit them even when he tries.
Loro Lreath = facetanked and sliced in half
Wind attack = all of them dodged or blocked
Shit attacks he does in this chapter = all useless

Remove BM and he gets owned by them in his Dragon Form

SNs >> Scabbards
Yes thats why dragon form is his jobber form. Even in his base he would have performed much better. Divine thunder has both devastating power and speed.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
The shading is different so it can't be
Different shading is fine, Zoro will do much better stuff than what they did.
It's certainly not anything belonging to a dead man.
Oden's aura never left Wano, whenever someone hurts Kaido he is sniffing Oden, lol.
Just a PTSD.
İ m so happy bec we dont need to afraid anymore. U know, Kaido is dead with one single Zoro attack. Eveyrone can be relax now. Dead Kaido cant do anything.
How many time more do you expect your fave to be carried?
If you cant predict the whole amount, try just the next 10 mins. :yasu:
 
Well katakuri is a different type of fighter. Zoro will need high speed continuous attacks more than AP which is required for kaido. Its easier for zoro to fight characters like queen/jack/cracker/king than katakuri....
Cracker and Jack are perfect matchups for Zoro's penetration.
Zoro can't fight King either effectively without PIS, too lacking in the mobility department.
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
kaido will go dragon form again if oda wants zoro to recreate ryuma moment
Looks like the "Ryuma moment" ended up being more of a "tease" and an actual recreation of the feat.
Too bad Kaido dodged.

But Zoro's still going to open that scar. Just gonna do it while Hybrid Kaido.
 
Did internal damage to Kaido... Something that took him THREE PAGES to recover from.
As opposed to Zoro's attack which he instantly recovered and counter attacked...
- so it's ur headcanon about internal damage :gokulaugh: Luffy also punched him with Gear 3rd gatling in wano and made kaido out for some time or when he used gear 3rd and punched him above his head :josad: all those punches did nothing kaido stood up like it's the time to see luffy again but alas he found him lying on the grou... no he gor helped by zoro again :josad:
 
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