One Piece Chapter 1069: We Owe All There Is To Desire!!
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What if EggHead gets destroyed, Vegapunk erased, Seraphim retrieved, but the old dick Vegapunk has a full backup file/AI chip that he will install in Kuma before being captured?
He could act as a bait, allow the SH to escape and his knowledge/mission/will be carried and inherited by Kuma, the SH and the Revos.
I would love to have a recovered Kuma with a sort of Cortana-like Vegapunk.
He could act as a bait, allow the SH to escape and his knowledge/mission/will be carried and inherited by Kuma, the SH and the Revos.
I would love to have a recovered Kuma with a sort of Cortana-like Vegapunk.
I've explained this, but I don't necessarily think One Piece does "powerscaling" well or the same way other Shonen logically do.
Pre-TS is chock full of circumstantial victories for Luffy (i.e. blood and water for Croc, Rubber for Enel), both of which could be have been adetriment to Lucci in Enies Lobby if they fought him. Then, all 3 probably could have beaten Moria without his Oars nonsense. It's basically like side-grade scaling, each villain posed different threats for the MC.
After the last 10 years of clear upgrades in villains ( Doffy to Kata to Kaido, Hody and Caesar were out if their league), I think the series is heading back into this territory, where villains have different advantages.
Kizaru probably isn't nearly as tanky as Kaido or can dish out the same haki directly, but because of his broken powers, Luffy could be in trouble from the speed and weight of the kicks alone.
That's my 2 cents on that. If he can't keep up Kizaru like he couldn't with Kata at first, then we are looking at something interesting imo.
Pre-TS is chock full of circumstantial victories for Luffy (i.e. blood and water for Croc, Rubber for Enel), both of which could be have been adetriment to Lucci in Enies Lobby if they fought him. Then, all 3 probably could have beaten Moria without his Oars nonsense. It's basically like side-grade scaling, each villain posed different threats for the MC.
After the last 10 years of clear upgrades in villains ( Doffy to Kata to Kaido, Hody and Caesar were out if their league), I think the series is heading back into this territory, where villains have different advantages.
Kizaru probably isn't nearly as tanky as Kaido or can dish out the same haki directly, but because of his broken powers, Luffy could be in trouble from the speed and weight of the kicks alone.
That's my 2 cents on that. If he can't keep up Kizaru like he couldn't with Kata at first, then we are looking at something interesting imo.
Personally that would bother me. The thematic reason for Luffy being weaker than Kat made sense since he is supposed to represent an upgraded version of Luffy. But we went through 200 chapters of fighting Kaido and Luffy had like 4 power ups alone in that arc.
I'll admit that pre TS most of those fights were circumstantial, but I think since post ts power levels have been more clearly established. Don't get me wrong tho, Luffy would have a very hard time putting Kizaru down.
I'll admit that pre TS most of those fights were circumstantial, but I think since post ts power levels have been more clearly established. Don't get me wrong tho, Luffy would have a very hard time putting Kizaru down.
Yeah I agree. The theme I was going for was him actually mastering FS to keep up with Kizaru. It didn't exist when Rayleigh fought him, but it can easily be retconned to be the reason he did.
For example, Luffy didnt have better FS than Kata, but Snakeman was fast enough to outpace it, which is how he won. So the question is, what happens when you need to fight the fastest man on the planet theoretically?
For example, Luffy didnt have better FS than Kata, but Snakeman was fast enough to outpace it, which is how he won. So the question is, what happens when you need to fight the fastest man on the planet theoretically?
But Kizaru would have a very, very hard time putting Luffy down. Also, FS is faster than the speed of light, if there is enough time given with FS. I think the best matchup is Kata/Brulee vs. Kizaru with mirrors and FS vs. the speed of light. Or BB with Yami Yami n Mi. For SHs, Sanji vs. Kizaru all day every day.
We should look at the Kaido fight as a team effort rather than a 1vs1. And Luffy is basically only at the entrance to the top. G5 is his only shot to even fight against Top Tiers. He'll still improve. His bounty is also at the very least 2.5m away from what it will eventually be. Law and Kid will still improve as well.
