Is this the biggest single-chapter demolition of a character & fandom?


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For the pirate king yeah they're seemingly done
Once they do comeback and reunite with luffy they're going to still have the same rivalry that they always had. Them losing now doesn't limit their future potential
What rivalry ? Was the Saturn a true rival to the Playstation ?

This Supernova trio or "competition" is just an advertisement, hyping something that's far more underwhelming than announced or that doesn't even exist.
 

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Conqueror of the Stars
Sengoku saying he will take the blame from the higher ups means that agreeing to Shanks' terms was discouraged by the higher ups, but Sengoku understood that fighting Shanks would be ridiculous.

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You don’t take blame for things that are “discouraged”, you take blame for things that are prohibited. And Sengoku allowing Shanks to live was most certainly prohibited (unless Sengoku knows that the Gorosei don’t want their slave dead). Lol
 
You guys have to stop this BM got weaker nonsense. The BM we saw was the strongest she has ever been. Kaido teasing her with her age doesn't mean there was any prime she has now left behind. BM always told him to watch with whom she's talking too.

We know that BM in her thin state was weakened to a point Jinbe could block her attacks and counterattack. The added mass made BM stronger and overall BM was at her strongest state when we've seen her loss.
That she's just this weak is another thing.
She had been sitting on her ass eating sweets. How was she on her prime compared to the version in Xebec's crew?

Nah man, I refuse to believe that Big Mom was at her strongest, especially if we consider what Shanks, another Yonko, managed to do to Kidd and his entire crew. Big Mom's feats are shit compared to that.
 
It proves that Big Mom was definitely rusted as a top tier. There's no way that she was still in her prime. Now it also makes sense why Kaido called her pathetic when Big Mom jobbed to the supernovas on the rooftop - because in Kaido's view, she has become pathetic.

But Shanks is really built different. Even Kaido can't perform such a feat like that with a single ACoC swing. Unless it's his strongest TB or Ragnarok (not counting Blazing Bagua).
Big Mom was not rusted. She just had the misfortune of being the strongest female character in a story whose author is sexist and doesn't know how to handle and write powerful female characters.
 
Oda had the chance to make Kidd established as a true rival to Luffy right now and guess what, he literally take a shit on him. Its not that he had to beat Shanks, only Miidd's fans thought this could happen but he wasnt even able to defend an attack letalone damage Shanks.

This is not a Crocoboy comeback scenario, Oda made a clear point that Kidd is not up there and there is no reason for him to come back as a PK candidate.
Never said he was a PK candidate. Just that he would defeat shanks in the future.
 
What rivalry ? Was the Saturn a true rival to the Playstation ?

This Supernova trio or "competition" is just an advertisement, hyping something that's far more underwhelming than announced or that doesn't even exist.
I have never claimed kid and law to be equal to luffy or is crew but luffy sees them as rivals and vice versa

Kid and law still have emperor level potential. Plus are still goinf to be leaders of the next gen besides luffy
 
Really? I thought the raws made Kidd look better. Shanks confirmed Kidd could have low diffed his fleet had Kidd been allowed to fire that railgun.
Shanks said "you're not even gonna beat pururu bro"
Do people really think kid and law will just disappear or die after losing to shanks and teach?
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Why the leakers said Kid's dream was broken ? It's just false information because right now Kid just got defeated. :choppawhat:
I mean who tf comes back from this
 
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