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Meme is a good comparison, Kaido isn’t. Powerful, but sloppy as fuck.
Kaido was a decent fighter when need arose

They don't look sloppy .
Nothing so far shows that topman or mars or Ethan look sloppy in there fighting style or how they do things .
Yeah the getting stop but that happens to everyone.
During marineford the admirals , warlords and WB pirates were getting stop all the damn time by each other .
 
I accepted he is not Zoro EOS fight when Sanji kicked his face
How does getting kick in the face from people who are immortal mean that. Did you also say that when Kaido was letting people hit him or BM was getting rolled out like a football. Or when Pedro bomb pushed over BM. The only people Oda won't potray like this is people like Shanks, Mihawk, Garp etc.. cause these things will actually affect them. Shanks not going to stand their n let 9 people put swords through his body. Kaido would
 

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Why lol. They are immortal. Oda already told you from Saturn first started fighting. They do not care about taking damage. Similar to how oda told us BM doesn't take damage unless it's from really strong attacks. Then proceeded to troll BM all throughout WCI and justify by saying well she not really taking damage.
Tbf Atlas has no haki, or any particular skill it's basically just Franky......Nasju should've sliced her into bits without too many troubles xD but ofc the plot demands otherwise :)
 
We'll never get to see these days. Doflamingo was truly special.

He was a high tier but he entrapped an entire country with the small alliance and an admiral, then he went on and tried to massacre the entire population with the bird cage. He kept this bird cage with ruptured organs and fighting a balloon guy.
How the fuck do y'all find a way to discuss that fodder in this thread
 
How does getting kick in the face from people who are immortal mean that. Did you also say that when Kaido was letting people hit him or BM was getting rolled out like a football. Or when Pedro bomb pushed over BM. The only people Oda won't potray like this is people like Shanks, Mihawk, Garp etc.. cause these things will actually affect them. Shanks not going to stand their n let 9 people put swords through his body. Kaido would
I'm just saying that Oda wouldn't make that against Zoro final opponent
 
I don’t think Garps name is common knowledge. We’ve seen what happens when he meets the straw hats, they’re all aware of Garp the Hero of the Marines and were shocked he was Luffys grandpa.

It’d be weird if they knew his name was Monkey D. Garp and never made the connection.
There's a difference between it currently not being common knowledge for the populace and it being known by the marines when he was a subordinate for decades.

And as it was brought up earlier, if Garp knew to keep it a secret, then it's even worse that he never told Luffy or Ace to not use the D.
 
They don't look sloppy .
Nothing so far shows that topman or mars or Ethan look sloppy in there fighting style or how they do things .
Yeah the getting stop but that happens to everyone.
During marineford the admrial , warlord WB pirates were getting stop all the damn time .
Heavily relying on healing properties is pretty sloppy.
 
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