Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 977 : "The Party Won't Start Now"
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Really good chapter. Much better than last week's.
Seeing Jinbe flow in so seamlessly into the crew is impressive. He somehow gels with them even better than he did in WCI. The Strawhat action was a nice appetizer before the big battle.
Denjiro and Kin'emon continue to be the best pair within the Scabbards.
The big info this chapter was the revelation of Kaido's son. I personally expect him to be much younger than some think. Maybe even as old as Momo currently is. Momo's gonna need something to do while he's captured, and I wouldn't be surprised if he and Kaido's son hit it off. When Oden died, Kaido seemed more somber over the ordeal. Like he found a kindred spirit in Oden but was forced to kill him. That second chance could live on through their sons.
Don't really care for the Flying Six beyond Drake, but they might serve as neat warm ups for the Strawhats.
Seeing Jinbe flow in so seamlessly into the crew is impressive. He somehow gels with them even better than he did in WCI. The Strawhat action was a nice appetizer before the big battle.
Denjiro and Kin'emon continue to be the best pair within the Scabbards.
The big info this chapter was the revelation of Kaido's son. I personally expect him to be much younger than some think. Maybe even as old as Momo currently is. Momo's gonna need something to do while he's captured, and I wouldn't be surprised if he and Kaido's son hit it off. When Oden died, Kaido seemed more somber over the ordeal. Like he found a kindred spirit in Oden but was forced to kill him. That second chance could live on through their sons.
Don't really care for the Flying Six beyond Drake, but they might serve as neat warm ups for the Strawhats.
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I am saying his endurance doesn't matter since someone has to defeat Biscuit Soldiers to land a hit on Cracker.
Bad comparison. I'm talking about Cracker df. Jack bad ap or not has nothing to do with his df. It's about his own strength.
Oh now I'm biased. The only portrayal you can use is Shanks/Wb and Kaido/BM event while I used
1. Narrator statement that Marco is WB right hand man
2. Marco feat against admirals
3. Marco hierarchy. Marco led WB Pirates after WB died but King will not be able to lead Beast Pirates if Kaido died since Queen didn't respect him.
I'm not saying Sanji is equal to Zoro. I'm saying Zoro is a bit stronger than Sanji. Zoro can split mountain with 1 sword but with 2 swords Denjiro easily blocked his slash. Zoro also needed 2 swords to block Hawkin's voodo doll.
Sanji dominated Page One. I don't what is your goal now, Without RS defeated Yonji and he also bruised Oven who is more durable than Katakuri. His endurance is also insane tanked Doflamingo attack who cut meteor. You still haven't debunked this.
Endurance and speed Sanji is above and with RS it's even more one sided. I give the AP to Zoro though after he mastered Enma his CoA should increase.
No need to insult you can threadban me or delete my post if you don't like arguing with me.
Because King has environmental advantage? Can he solo them on land? It even makes King worse since he cannot damage the ship. How will King performance against them useful in real battle where their movements are not limited on ship? 
Jinbei also rejected BM offer but we know he is not YC2
King only attacked the ship due to environmental advantage and failed to damage the ship. High AP yeah how willhe damage Queen who tanked BM attack?
I agree King is stronger than Queen by a small margin just like Zoro is stronger than Sanji by a small margin.
Bad comparison. I'm talking about Cracker df. Jack bad ap or not has nothing to do with his df. It's about his own strength.
Oh now I'm biased. The only portrayal you can use is Shanks/Wb and Kaido/BM event while I used 1. Narrator statement that Marco is WB right hand man
2. Marco feat against admirals
3. Marco hierarchy. Marco led WB Pirates after WB died but King will not be able to lead Beast Pirates if Kaido died since Queen didn't respect him.
I'm not saying Sanji is equal to Zoro. I'm saying Zoro is a bit stronger than Sanji. Zoro can split mountain with 1 sword but with 2 swords Denjiro easily blocked his slash. Zoro also needed 2 swords to block Hawkin's voodo doll.
Sanji dominated Page One. I don't what is your goal now, Without RS defeated Yonji and he also bruised Oven who is more durable than Katakuri. His endurance is also insane tanked Doflamingo attack who cut meteor. You still haven't debunked this.
Endurance and speed Sanji is above and with RS it's even more one sided. I give the AP to Zoro though after he mastered Enma his CoA should increase.
No need to insult you can threadban me or delete my post if you don't like arguing with me.
King literally knocked Big Mom's memories out of her head and a crew, supporting a YC2, could do nothing to stop King. But sure, he's only YC2 himself lmfao.
Jinbei also rejected BM offer but we know he is not YC2
King only attacked the ship due to environmental advantage and failed to damage the ship. High AP yeah how willhe damage Queen who tanked BM attack?
I agree King is stronger than Queen by a small margin just like Zoro is stronger than Sanji by a small margin.
The Strawhats fighting was fun. Glad to see them all working together again. Killer and Kid were really funny. The jolly pirates indeed, well Kidd is often smiling anyway, lol. Also Kinemon playing the fake it to make it card during the strategy meeting.
Nice chapter overall, I just need Viz' version now.
Nice chapter overall, I just need Viz' version now.
Portrayal, feats, bounty, rep. Anyway I look at it, hard to separate Jinbei from the likes of Perospero to group him with commanders. The cutoff to me is reserved for characters like Cracker who can laugh in the face of G4 boundman. Jinbei is just short of that.
Really depends how strict or loose you are with the term "level". To make it easier, he's closer to Drake (or the strongest flying six aside from Drake) than he is to Jack imo. You don't walk around with a 1 billion bounty just for show. Jinbei himself validated what it means to have a bounty that high
He felt Luffy (someone stronger than him) fighting a billion beli opponent was a major gamble.
Jinbei is portrayed a notch below those guys.
Really depends how strict or loose you are with the term "level". To make it easier, he's closer to Drake (or the strongest flying six aside from Drake) than he is to Jack imo. You don't walk around with a 1 billion bounty just for show. Jinbei himself validated what it means to have a bounty that high
He felt Luffy (someone stronger than him) fighting a billion beli opponent was a major gamble.
Jinbei is portrayed a notch below those guys.
Portrayal, feats, bounty, rep. Anyway I look at it, hard to separate Jinbei from the likes of Perospero to group him with commanders. The cutoff to me is reserved for characters like Cracker who can laugh in the face of G4 boundman. Jinbei is just short of that.
Really depends how strict or loose you are with the term "level". To make it easier he's closer to Drake (or the strongest flying six aside from Drake) than he is to Jack imo. You don't walk around with a 1 billion bounty just for show. Jinbei himself validated what it means to have a bounty that high
He felt Luffy (someone stronger than him) fighting a billion beli opponent was a major gamble.
Jinbei is portrayed a notch below those guys.
Really depends how strict or loose you are with the term "level". To make it easier he's closer to Drake (or the strongest flying six aside from Drake) than he is to Jack imo. You don't walk around with a 1 billion bounty just for show. Jinbei himself validated what it means to have a bounty that high
He felt Luffy (someone stronger than him) fighting a billion beli opponent was a major gamble.
Jinbei is portrayed a notch below those guys.
It was a gamble because Katakuri is strong has hell. In terms of feats Jenbei stacks up with most Commanders.
They gave him an updated bounty to represent his current threat to them. It being frozen in the past doesn't hold much weight since it was updated accordingly. He's also a veteran new world pirate who has been around for years, so there's no young growing pirate excuse.
Jinbei brought bounty up when stating fighting Katakuri was a major gamble. He explicitly stated fighting someone with a bounty that high is a major risk for someone stronger than himself. Enter Jack into the picture and the hierarchy should be clear. Can Jinbei be somewhat close? Sure, but he's clearly below. And that's my main point here.
Ok do you think Jinbei is closer to Jack than he is to Perospero? I'm more comfortable calling him Perospero level than Jack. Jinbei has great feats in certain pockets (same way Crocodile had in MF to be honest) but he doesn't have an actyal 1v1 clear cut indicator, the same BM he owned, so did Brook and the rest of the strawhats. His portrayal doesn't grant him to be equals with someone like Jack moreso than someone like Perospero.
Jinbei brought bounty up when stating fighting Katakuri was a major gamble. He explicitly stated fighting someone with a bounty that high is a major risk for someone stronger than himself. Enter Jack into the picture and the hierarchy should be clear. Can Jinbei be somewhat close? Sure, but he's clearly below. And that's my main point here.
Ok do you think Jinbei is closer to Jack than he is to Perospero? I'm more comfortable calling him Perospero level than Jack. Jinbei has great feats in certain pockets (same way Crocodile had in MF to be honest) but he doesn't have an actyal 1v1 clear cut indicator, the same BM he owned, so did Brook and the rest of the strawhats. His portrayal doesn't grant him to be equals with someone like Jack moreso than someone like Perospero.
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