One Piece Manga Spoilers - Chapter 957

[Shura]

I have a hard time understanding this.

So Big mom with her full force, and I mean like everyone is standing in front of Jinbe+ Germa, but we expect them to make it out just fine and it doesn't count as an embarrassment if they do.

Ryokugyu and Fujitora won't capture or kill Sabo, but them escaping is dehyping the admirals and a disgrace to them?
While they have to protect the holy land.

isn't it why people are memeing bigmom

 

[Shiroyru]

What the fuck? So Katakuri, Oven, Daifuku and Compote can injure an Admiral like Fujitora that much? They fought against TWO Admirals and managed to injure one of them quite good so are you gonna tell me that Katakuri + Oven can injure Fujitora like that?
Vets are even trash compared to high tiers, they will be no diffed by other YC1 characters as Katakuri proved it against Ichiji. It is bullshit that the revo commanders are a bunch of vets...

Ivankov is stronger than all other RA Commanders and he got low diffed by Magellan, who is at best YC1 (unless you think that Shiryu is already Admiral level by now). Getting low diffed by a YC1/2 means that you shouldn’t even be YC3... but I’ll be generous and say Iva is YC3. This makes the commanders either Vet or YC4 (which is really just the higher end of Vet level).

Sorry if you don’t like the math, but the story has just shown us that 3 Vets/YC4s can put in some work against an Admiral.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Yes, Kuma is YC lv but his rank is unknown. The Revolutionary Army has to be strong enough to be a threat against the WG. Thus revo commanders being vets is utter trash.

The Revolutionary Army's hierarchy is more complicated than it seems. Maybe they're split into Six factions. The sixth one being the main headquarters where you serve under Dragon.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Or it was so destroy that is dangerous to get close to it... like punk hazard but worst

There is a difference between an island being physicallt destroyed vs not appearing on any known map. It was erased, not just destroyed if it was.

 

[Haku]

Yes it means a lot because Mihawk's bounty is based purely on strength.

Not really lol... where did you get that from...

 

[Finalbeta]

Who made these?

 

[Shiroyru]

Prime Shiki was a monster but I agree

Admiral level is pretty impressive so I guess you could call him a monster

 

[ZoroGang]

I mean there is no reason why Zoro has to surpass Shanks....

Shanks is

Gets hit by straight facts then starts trolling one piece characters not mentioned at all

because it doesn’t matter what I tell you retards until oda reaches Mihawk part of the story you trolls will do what you do best

 

[CbShadow]

I never saw zoro being skillful not even one time with his swords in the manga you need absurd strength and haki to be Wss stop your bitching Mihawk is stronger then shanks and zoro will be stronger then both. Lol oda shitting all on your shanks fanatasies

A few chapters ago we saw Zoro move his head to the side to get out of the path of Kappa's attack. He then deflected Kappa's sword attack with his own sword before returning the sword to Kappa, all in one motion but you say we haven't seen him display any skillful swordsmanship.

Being the world's strongest swordsman is combination of strength and skills.

 

[MarineHQ]

isn't it why people are memeing bigmom

No they're doing that because of her running after a cake for 40 chapters, while getting blocked + punched of the sunny by Jinbe, and speed blitzed by Brook, also blocked by chopper

 

[Finalbeta]

I pray for Hancock if Fuji is going to Amazon lily

She has plot armor so not happening unless she gets away

 

[ZoroGang]

A few chapters ago we saw Zoro move his head to the side to get out of the path of Kappa's attack. He then deflected Kappa's sword attack with his own sword before returning the sword to Kappa, all in one motion but you say we haven't seen him display any skillful swordsmanship.

Being the world's strongest swordsman is combination of strength and skills.

What about that is skill? Are you incompetent? Lol so dodging an attack and flicking back the enemy’s weapon is skill or the potrayal of difference in strength

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Yes there is.

1. Zoro has to be at least as strong as prime Rayleigh for Luffy to have a shot at becoming PK.

2. Old inactive Rayleigh is capable of fighting on par with an admiral and escaping with no injuries. So prime Rayleigh should be at least Yonko level.

3. Mihawk's plot is as the strongest swordsman that means he has to be stronger than all primary sword users including shanks.

4. Zoro needs to be stronger than mihawk to achieve his goal.

Firt of all Rayleigh was never Yonko level as equal to Monsters : Golden trio + marine duo + Kaido + Rocks + BM )
He isnt also above Teach Akainu and Shanks

He is around Kizaru in his prime.
Zoro will be Rayleigh not Mihawk
Mihawk is below Kizaru Kuzan

You guys though about the island?
@Sentinel , @Jo_Ndule , @King7 , @Buusatan94 , @Bogard

It got destroyed or Shiki/Rocks made it invisible

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

There is a difference between an island being physicallt destroyed vs not appearing on any known map. It was erased, not just destroyed if it was.

Alone this shows how hardcore battle it was between the Rox and Navy+Roger. Complete island get erased from the world...

 

[Desolate Smaug]

People feel like if Zoro surpassed Shanks, it means that he will be stronger than Luffy LOOOL

People do not get it.
Luffy surpassing Shanks is simply a PROMISE. NOT HIS DREAM

His dream is to be pirate king.
a Pirate King wipes the floor with Shanks! and not defeat only!
Zoro surpassing Shanks is normal and it's not something that will put Luffy's dream at shame
Luffy's dream is BEYOND surpassing Shanks, surpassing Shanks and giving the hat back is just a promise, not the dream itself.
So, Luffy will still be above Zoro, but it doesn't mean Zoro cannot surpass Shanks because he's Luffy's idol. That's irrelevant

Zoro should find a way to curb his fainting before people can talk about him being stronger or on par with Luffy.

 

[Buusatan94]

isn't it why people are memeing bigmom

People memeing Big Mom are being trollsish and hypocrital as they always take the opportunity to criticize her and to say that she's weak using her failings and antics but conveniently choose to ignore their favorite characters' own failings and nerfed moments.

 

[Finalbeta]

She surely will. I want to see her fight Gion or Tokitake later in the arc.

I hope for a fight vs Sanji. Too hilarious that would be.

 

[Buusatan94]

I hope for a fight vs Sanji. Too hilarious that would be.

Do you hate Sanji to this point ?

 

[ZoroGang]

Zoro should find a way to curb his fainting before people can talk about him being stronger or on par with Luffy.

To bad oda just delivered him Enma which does just that

 

[CbShadow]

Ivankov is stronger than all other RA Commanders and he got low diffed by Magellan, who is at best YC1 (unless you think that Shiryu is already Admiral level by now). Getting low diffed by a YC1/2 means that you shouldn’t even be YC3... but I’ll be generous and say Iva is YC3. This makes the commanders either Vet or YC4 (which is really just the higher end of Vet level).

Sorry if you don’t like the math, but the story has just shown us that 3 Vets/YC4s can put in some work against an Admiral.

That was back pre time skip he's should be much stronger Post Time skip