Palestine/Israel Conflict

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Can we…not equate all Jews with the Israeli government?? I’ve been very clear that I am against their occupation of and war crimes against Palestine, so my very existence disproves the notion that Judaism is directly tied to Zionism.
Anti-semitism isn't Anti-Zionism


what Israel is doing atm is what Isis has been doing.. the difference is Isis could fabricate the religion and justify their actions...

Zionists don't even have proper grounds to justify this homicidal delinquency
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unfortunately people continue to view others by groups and not as individuals.
thats the worst part.. but the best part os that since the community being persecuted is defending those news speaking against it.. ofc not everyone is.. some are naive or have foul intentions.. but majority sure is
 
#44
So I understand that Israel is an important geopolitical ally for america and the west, but I don't understand why the american government doesn't put at least some limitations on its support to israel to curb some of israel's worst offenses.
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While I think israel as a country has the right to exist, I think they're going way too far in regards to jewish nationalism, imperialism, and human rights abuses
 
#45
So I understand that Israel is an important geopolitical ally for america and the west, but I don't understand why the american government doesn't put at least some limitations on its support to israel to curb some of israel's worst offenses.
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While I think israel as a country has the right to exist, I think they're going way too far in regards to jewish nationalism, imperialism, and human rights abuses
their course of existence is built upon prejudice... again they are no different than Isis trying to form a state... if you supporting Isreal's existence then atleast be consistent with that take.. and support Isis... not that I'm promoting you to.. I'm just calling a flaw out from your opinion

But the sole thing that would settle thos issue without further massacres is a 2 state solution... the most peaceful way to end things.. but the records of the UN says otherwise and this issue stands as one of the oldest next to Jummu and Kashmir, someone once said something along the lines "to American politics and UN org.. isreal is above the law"
which seems to be the case. ironically these are the same bozos who were caught admitting that they created and funded Isis..
 
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their course of existence is built upon prejudice... again they are no different than Isis trying to form a state... if you supporting Isreal's existence then atleast be consistent with that take.. and support Isis... not that I'm promoting you to.. I'm just calling a flaw out from your opinion

But the sole thing that would settle thos issue without further massacres is a 2 state solution... the most peaceful way to end things.. but the records of the UN says otherwise and this issue stands as one of the oldest next to Jummu and Kashmir, someone once said something along the lines "to American politics and UN org.. isreal is above the law"
which seems to be the case. ironically these are the same bozos who were caught admitting that they created and funded Isis..
Its Jammu not Jummu

Two state

What do you mean?

J&k is an integral part of India

Dont drag j&k into your debate
 
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my bad that's ironic coming from a Kashmiri my self

Kashmir is still an issue.. and another example of democratic hypocritical issue yet to be resolved....

its not about the land its the people...and we sure do know what's going on there... pretty militarized i must say..


that issue is no different from Palestine's.. both are being are sieged to control, both are open air prison like China's Muslims, racism being practiced through and through, manipulation and force expulsions to change the demography ... i mean india as a country itself is a Nationalist state.. no different than Isreal..
the government is crap... brainwashes the numbers to ridicule Islam..


alot of things consistent and parallel you'd notice.

try not to be a nationalist.. be patriotic.
 
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my bad that's ironic coming from a Kashmiri my self

Kashmir is still an issue.. and another example of democratic hypocritical issue yet to be resolved....

its not about the land its the people...and we sure do know what's going on there... pretty militarized i must say..


that issue is no different from Palestine's.. both are being are sieged to control, both are open air prison like China's Muslims, racism being practiced through and through, manipulation and force expulsions to change the demography ... i mean india as a country itself is a Nationalist state.. no different than Isreal..
the government is crap... brainwashes the numbers to ridicule Islam..


alot of things consistent and parallel you'd notice.

try not to be a nationalist.. be patriotic.
Exodus of kashmiri pandits ring a bell.?
I am an Indian by religion

Not a Muslim
Not a hindu
Not a sikh
Not a Christian

You talk about numbers mmmm

Yes, indian armed forces will send the terrorists to hell.
I have many Muslim friends.
Thank god they are not like you.

Identify yourself as an 'Indian' first then this conflict will end.
 
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Exodus of kashmiri pandits ring a bell.?
yea, but is that a way to justify whats currently happening in the disputed territory.

its like saying coz of Holocaust.. Isreal is inflicting the same pain over to palistanians? which i bet many jews would disagree upon
 
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yea, but is that a way to justify whats currently happening in the disputed territory.

its like saying coz of Holocaust.. Isreal is inflicting the same pain over to palistanians? which i bet many jews would disagree upon
What's wrong with sending terrorists to hell.

Identify yourself as an Indian first.

Religion is secondary.

I am an Indian.

I have many Muslim friends but they are not like you.

I am not justifying anything.
 
#51
What's wrong with sending terrorists to hell.

Identify yourself as an Indian first.

Religion is secondary.

I am an Indian.

I have many Muslim friends but they are not like you.

I am not justifying anything.
Thats not my point.. my point is are you trying to justify the illegal occupation by justifying it with something irrelevant?
 
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I am an Indian by religion
what does this mean?
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their course of existence is built upon prejudice... again they are no different than Isis trying to form a state... if you supporting Isreal's existence then atleast be consistent with that take.. and support Isis... not that I'm promoting you to.. I'm just calling a flaw out from your opinion
The thing is tho, israel is the only jewish state in existence and there are countless islamic republics. Muslims don't need a country of their own.

This isn't to say that Israel should discriminate against muslims who already live in the region, but if the millions of jews in the region want to form their own government, I think they should have the right to do that.
 
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what does this mean?
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The thing is tho, israel is the only jewish state in existence and there are countless islamic republics. Muslims don't need a country of their own.

This isn't to say that Israel should discriminate against muslims who already live in the region, but if the millions of jews in the region want to form their own government, I think they should have the right to do that.
Even by their own religious teaching they are not suppose to make a state until their messiah comes.. and they're seeking to form their historical empire..

bruh if Muslims were to make their historic empire then you honestly wouldn't gawk at the world map for the rest of your life lol


Not every distinct community would necessarily have a country just coz they want it.. it would literally cause major conflicts in the world.. unless the place is homed to a majority .. before this disaster Palestine was home to Jews, Christians, and Muslim.. and had a mutual livelihood.. but now... bruh it can't get any dire
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this guy reallly...


i just asked you a question and this is what you reply back... i never said i supported what happened to the pundits.. i even assumed what you said is right... but you are just dodging my question.
 
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Its Jammu not Jummu

Two state

What do you mean?

J&k is an integral part of India

Dont drag j&k into your debate
Not going to lie, I think the issues with J&K are the fault of the kashmiris. If any of them hate india, they should just go to pakistan. Pakistan was created for the very purpose of allowing people living in british india to choose to live in an islamic republic.

If indian kashmir is so bad then just cross over to pakistani kashmir, millions of people did it during partition, there's no reason for them to continue to live in indian land and commit acts of terrorism and advocate for secession. That's basically the entire reason Kashmir is militarized.

When I visited banglore a few years ago, there were many muslim neighborhoods I drove by. Those neighborhoods weren't under military occupation. That only happens in the region where there is continuous civil unrest.
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I also think its unfair to compare J&K to Israel/Palestine. India didn't colonize kashmir, it was always part of india.
 
#55
possibly, but I feel like you're being a bit too aggressive about this
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A lot of people just see the military occupation on the news and assume that india is unequivocally the bad guys. irl, literally every single person living in kashmir had and still has the option to move to Pakistan.

The fact is, India isn't a nation state; rather, it is the union of several states, similar to america. And just like america in the civil war, the existence of secessionist movements are a threat to the union. If Kashmir breaks off, who's to prevent punjab or the dravidian states from breaking off?

After america had its civil war, the south was also under military occupation, its literally the only way to deal with secessionists.
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Anyways, excuse me if my opinion is a bit misinformed. I'm not actually from india, but I have a lot of family that lives there so I know a bit about it.
 
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First Bleak ash brought j&k into this debate comparing j&k to i & p.

Without any knowledge you are deleting posts.

@Tejas
yea i did coz its comparable.. and its reasonable to bring it up..


i see some uninformed numbers here as well.. i concede ik less when it comes to the pundiths.. but i do know what's relevant and what not.


i'd like to talk more about it in detail.. i mean i have indian friend against this illegal occupation..
but damn its a drag..
I'll come with bulk info tho.. and not by Indian media.. thats the most unreliable source out on the planet... epitome of bias nationalist industry
 
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