Roe vs Wade Overturned?

of course you are pro life lol


it’s also morally wrong to force women and children to go through with pregnancies with no regard to how it will affect them, yall wanna care about the “baby” inside but have no problem the with the amount of damage and trauma that it will cause to the girl by birthing it

it’s not “feelings” and you can’t call it that when you know nothing and wont have to go through what they go through


pro-“lifes” keep mentioning adoption but there’s already hundreds of thousands of kids in foster care living in terrible conditions already why increase that number. unless you adopted children or frequently donated towards them then you don’t get to tell women that they should just put it up for adoption

also making the couple against their will when they aren’t ready financially and emotionally will just scar the child for life they will either have a terrible life in poverty or get abused by their parents, and who will help them when that happens? you?

pro lifes don’t actually care about the fetus because if they did they would would have supported the fetus from birth until adulthood but you don’t see any of them doing that
Terrible arguments based in "muh feelings".
Pro-choices are pathetic irresponsible people.
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what kind of life is that when a child is forced to live without love and care?
So called 'pro life' people only care about the baby's body not their mental wellbeing or quality of life.
Shit argument.
Just whataboutism.
 
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I think both men and women should have a say on if a women should get an abortion or not, and that decision should be realized sooner than later. No later than 3 months. We have crazy women that think its okay to murder a child up to 9 months or even after birth. That's sick. "My body, my choice" is a lie. A man puts another life into a woman. By default, its not just her body anymore. We're literally allowing millions to die because men/women don't want to be responsible of their actions. What if someone already aborted a baby that was going to cure cancer? All that potential deleted.
 
Let's be real. Life in the US isn't so horrible even in a foster home its not worth living.

The argument should be aimed at the health of the mother setting priority over someone who isn't alive yet.

I favor the already existing over the hypothetical person.
 
Abortion is not easy on a woman tho. Don’t let these crazies make you think women are just aborting kids like it’s nothing

it’s a hard decision
It's a retarded, immoral, and completely selfish decision to kill your baby.
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Sad day for woman . Abortion is messy subject however government should not decide whether woman wants to keep baby or not .

All i can say is republicans are hell bent on dragging the country back to 60s.
If a woman doesn't want to keep her baby, then she can just give him to adoption.

If there's a reason for government to exist is to stop people from killing each other. A woman should not be allowed to kill her baby. And psychopath murderers disguised as physicians should not be allowed to murder babies as a business.
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Let's be real. Life in the US isn't so horrible even in a foster home its not worth living.

The argument should be aimed at the health of the mother setting priority over someone who isn't alive yet.

I favor the already existing over the hypothetical person.
Babies are already alive and existing in their mother's womb.

In many cases, the murder of the baby in the womb fails, and the baby survives and grows up to become an adult.

If you want to argue that it's more acceptable to kill a baby in the womb than to kill an adult just because the body of the baby in the womb is less developed than the body of an adult, then nothing stops you from also arguing that it's acceptable for parents to kill their already born babies or even older children if they seem inconvenient to the parents.

As for the health of the mother that you mentioned, the risk of woman dying by giving birth to the child is just a hypothetical thing according to someone's judgement, which may or not be correct, and it makes no sense to use a hypothetical possibility as an excuse to deliberately act on killing someone.

It's the woman's responsibility that she got pregnant, so she has the moral obligation of protecting the life of her baby.
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Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.

And even if we blame totally just the rapist, the baby has nothing to do with it anyway; The baby's life is a different one from the rapist's. The baby can't be blamed and condemned to death because of something a rapist did. If someone needs to be condemned to death, it's the rapist; Not the baby.

Instead of killing babies, what needs to be done is to promote more chivalry, raising boys to be gentlemen who protect women as common sense, instead of relying on the police for everything, and rasing girls to become ladies with self-respect who would never allow themselves to do sex outside of marriage or to risk their safety going to dangerous places with wrong companies and without the protection of a gentleman in their family.
 
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Half of America has turned into a third world country but they're still discussing abortions and trans people in between Kim and Kanye nonsense. What's the worse that's going to happen? You're gonna have to cross state lines for an abortion? Sorry, but that's not the end of the world.

Maybe place some attention to the economic destruction and thousands of homeless people building tents in cities.
And nationwide, 50% of the homeless population spent time in foster care. Foster care is designed to provide temporary housing and care for children and adolescents until they can be either reunited with their family, taken in by relatives, adopted, or emancipated as an adult.

https://nfyi.org/issues/homelessness/#:~:text=And nationwide, 50% of the,or emancipated as an adult.
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Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.

what the actual fuck .
 
It's a retarded, immoral, and completely selfish decision to kill your baby.
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If a woman doesn't want to keep her baby, then she can just give him to adoption.

If there's a reason for government to exist is to stop people from killing each other. A woman should not be allowed to kill her baby. And psychopath murderers disguised as physicians should not be allowed to murder babies as a business.
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Babies are already alive and existing in their mother's womb.

In many cases, the murder of the baby in the womb fails, and the baby survives and grows up to become an adult.

If you want to argue that it's more acceptable to kill a baby in the womb than to kill an adult just because the body of the baby in the womb is less developed than the body of an adult, then nothing stops you from also arguing that it's acceptable for parents to kill their already born babies or even older children if they seem inconvenient to the parents.

As for the health of the mother that you mentioned, the risk of woman dying by giving birth to the child is just a hypothetical thing according to someone's judgement, which may or not be correct, and it makes no sense to use a hypothetical possibility as an excuse to deliberately act on killing someone.

It's the woman's responsibility that she got pregnant, so she has the moral obligation of protecting the life of her baby.
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Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.

And even if we blame totally just the rapist, the baby has nothing to do with it anyway; The baby's life is a different one from the rapist's. The baby can't be blamed and condemned to death because of something a rapist did. If someone needs to be condemned to death, it's the rapist; Not the baby.

Instead of killing babies, what needs to be done is to promote more chivalry, raising boys to be gentlemen who protect women as common sense, instead of relying on the police for everything, and rasing girls to become ladies with self-respect who would never allow themselves to do sex outside of marriage or to risk their safety going to dangerous places with wrong companies and without the protection of a gentleman in their family.
Oh wow
 
Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.

And even if we blame totally just the rapist, the baby has nothing to do with it anyway; The baby's life is a different one from the rapist's. The baby can't be blamed and condemned to death because of something a rapist did. If someone needs to be condemned to death, it's the rapist; Not the baby.

Instead of killing babies, what needs to be done is to promote more chivalry, raising boys to be gentlemen who protect women as common sense, instead of relying on the police for everything, and rasing girls to become ladies with self-respect who would never allow themselves to do sex outside of marriage or to risk their safety going to dangerous places with wrong companies and without the protection of a gentleman in their family.
you need to be a on a watchlist, holy shit
 
Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.
WTF are you stupid?
I didn’t want to participate on this discussion but when I read this I couldn’t stop myself
The woman has 0 faults in this case. She’s the victim and probably traumatised for her entire life.
We live in a world where women can’t go out during the night because they’re afraid.
What you wrote is completely fucked up.
You’re talking about moral? What you wrote is the exact opposite
 
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Ballel

even women in coma can produce babies.
its the most natural shit nature has given women. lets not act like women aren't meant to have babies.
in every culture and every condition , women can have babies. multiple babies and still live longer and healthier than man.

Hopefully artifical eggs and wombs will solve even this problem. but sadly i won't solve women's bitching
Ultracringe

And 'produce' babies wtf
 
WTF are you stupid?
I didn’t want to participate on this discussion but when I read this I couldn’t stop myself
The woman has 0 faults in this case. She’s the victim and probably traumatised for her entire life.
We live in a world where women can’t go out during the night because they’re afraid.
What you wrote is completely fucked up.
You’re talking about moral? What you wrote is the exact opposite
Some people here don’t interact with women(or anybody for that matter) and it shows
 
The right wing loves to shout about freedom as they also preach about controlling if can get abortions or not or if transgenders can get surgeries or not.
I think that's one of many fundamental problems with the position
 
Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.
This does not follow, Rape by definition would be without consent meaning it was never of her choice hence not her fault



I agree that to some sense, You shouldt be out at night as you could get mugged or what not so yeah that would be foolish if the woman did that however just because im making choices which could endanger me would not mean that the danger was my entirely of my own fault afteralll there's no real way to confirm wither or not someone would mug you

Even then so. I would like to add that what's to say that this would even apply to most cases regarding this matter if it does not then why would the wrong time ever be an argument?


And even if we blame totally just the rapist, the baby has nothing to do with it anyway; The baby's life is a different one from the rapist's. The baby can't be blamed and condemned to death because of something a rapist did. If someone needs to be condemned to death, it's the rapist; Not the baby.

Instead of killing babies, what needs to be done is to promote more chivalry, raising boys to be gentlemen who protect women as common sense, instead of relying on the police for everything, and rasing girls to become ladies with self-respect who would never allow themselves to do sex outside of marriage or to risk their safety going to dangerous places with wrong companies and without the protection of a gentleman in their family.

You are correct in the first point, The offspring would have no fault for what it's parents did. like if that was the case then i'd surely be dead as my biological father was a convict however with regards to it being okay to kill or not. it's all subjective though the reason given here would be sound defense for the argument for it.

We kill thousands of animals just so we can live more conveniently yet somehow that same principle would not be okay when regards to a baby. The logic is not all there


I think teaching men to worship women would be what created this problem to begin with, If we had more mutualistic relationships rather then the clear social control which women have then this problem wouldt exist but here we are like what good would chivalry be when whats decided by the suitor would be looks above all else.

Sex outside of marriage is fine, Sticking with one person even if you hate one another has routinely brought about abusive households and so kids have to suffer as a result of the parent's stupid religious beliefs
 
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