Roe vs Wade Overturned?
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I think both men and women should have a say on if a women should get an abortion or not, and that decision should be realized sooner than later. No later than 3 months. We have crazy women that think its okay to murder a child up to 9 months or even after birth. That's sick. "My body, my choice" is a lie. A man puts another life into a woman. By default, its not just her body anymore. We're literally allowing millions to die because men/women don't want to be responsible of their actions. What if someone already aborted a baby that was going to cure cancer? All that potential deleted.
It's a retarded, immoral, and completely selfish decision to kill your baby.
If a woman doesn't want to keep her baby, then she can just give him to adoption.
If there's a reason for government to exist is to stop people from killing each other. A woman should not be allowed to kill her baby. And psychopath murderers disguised as physicians should not be allowed to murder babies as a business.
Babies are already alive and existing in their mother's womb.
In many cases, the murder of the baby in the womb fails, and the baby survives and grows up to become an adult.
If you want to argue that it's more acceptable to kill a baby in the womb than to kill an adult just because the body of the baby in the womb is less developed than the body of an adult, then nothing stops you from also arguing that it's acceptable for parents to kill their already born babies or even older children if they seem inconvenient to the parents.
As for the health of the mother that you mentioned, the risk of woman dying by giving birth to the child is just a hypothetical thing according to someone's judgement, which may or not be correct, and it makes no sense to use a hypothetical possibility as an excuse to deliberately act on killing someone.
It's the woman's responsibility that she got pregnant, so she has the moral obligation of protecting the life of her baby.
Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.
And even if we blame totally just the rapist, the baby has nothing to do with it anyway; The baby's life is a different one from the rapist's. The baby can't be blamed and condemned to death because of something a rapist did. If someone needs to be condemned to death, it's the rapist; Not the baby.
Instead of killing babies, what needs to be done is to promote more chivalry, raising boys to be gentlemen who protect women as common sense, instead of relying on the police for everything, and rasing girls to become ladies with self-respect who would never allow themselves to do sex outside of marriage or to risk their safety going to dangerous places with wrong companies and without the protection of a gentleman in their family.
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If a woman doesn't want to keep her baby, then she can just give him to adoption.
If there's a reason for government to exist is to stop people from killing each other. A woman should not be allowed to kill her baby. And psychopath murderers disguised as physicians should not be allowed to murder babies as a business.
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Babies are already alive and existing in their mother's womb.
In many cases, the murder of the baby in the womb fails, and the baby survives and grows up to become an adult.
If you want to argue that it's more acceptable to kill a baby in the womb than to kill an adult just because the body of the baby in the womb is less developed than the body of an adult, then nothing stops you from also arguing that it's acceptable for parents to kill their already born babies or even older children if they seem inconvenient to the parents.
As for the health of the mother that you mentioned, the risk of woman dying by giving birth to the child is just a hypothetical thing according to someone's judgement, which may or not be correct, and it makes no sense to use a hypothetical possibility as an excuse to deliberately act on killing someone.
It's the woman's responsibility that she got pregnant, so she has the moral obligation of protecting the life of her baby.
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Even if the woman got pregnant because she was raped, it's still partially her fault for making the wrong choice to be in the wrong place, at the wrong hour, and without the right company.
And even if we blame totally just the rapist, the baby has nothing to do with it anyway; The baby's life is a different one from the rapist's. The baby can't be blamed and condemned to death because of something a rapist did. If someone needs to be condemned to death, it's the rapist; Not the baby.
Instead of killing babies, what needs to be done is to promote more chivalry, raising boys to be gentlemen who protect women as common sense, instead of relying on the police for everything, and rasing girls to become ladies with self-respect who would never allow themselves to do sex outside of marriage or to risk their safety going to dangerous places with wrong companies and without the protection of a gentleman in their family.
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what the actual fuck .
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what the actual fuck .
WTF are you stupid?
I didn’t want to participate on this discussion but when I read this I couldn’t stop myself
The woman has 0 faults in this case. She’s the victim and probably traumatised for her entire life.
We live in a world where women can’t go out during the night because they’re afraid.
What you wrote is completely fucked up.
You’re talking about moral? What you wrote is the exact opposite
I didn’t want to participate on this discussion but when I read this I couldn’t stop myself
The woman has 0 faults in this case. She’s the victim and probably traumatised for her entire life.
We live in a world where women can’t go out during the night because they’re afraid.
What you wrote is completely fucked up.
You’re talking about moral? What you wrote is the exact opposite
This does not follow, Rape by definition would be without consent meaning it was never of her choice hence not her fault
I agree that to some sense, You shouldt be out at night as you could get mugged or what not so yeah that would be foolish if the woman did that however just because im making choices which could endanger me would not mean that the danger was my entirely of my own fault afteralll there's no real way to confirm wither or not someone would mug you
Even then so. I would like to add that what's to say that this would even apply to most cases regarding this matter if it does not then why would the wrong time ever be an argument?
You are correct in the first point, The offspring would have no fault for what it's parents did. like if that was the case then i'd surely be dead as my biological father was a convict however with regards to it being okay to kill or not. it's all subjective though the reason given here would be sound defense for the argument for it.
We kill thousands of animals just so we can live more conveniently yet somehow that same principle would not be okay when regards to a baby. The logic is not all there
I think teaching men to worship women would be what created this problem to begin with, If we had more mutualistic relationships rather then the clear social control which women have then this problem wouldt exist but here we are like what good would chivalry be when whats decided by the suitor would be looks above all else.
Sex outside of marriage is fine, Sticking with one person even if you hate one another has routinely brought about abusive households and so kids have to suffer as a result of the parent's stupid religious beliefs
I agree that to some sense, You shouldt be out at night as you could get mugged or what not so yeah that would be foolish if the woman did that however just because im making choices which could endanger me would not mean that the danger was my entirely of my own fault afteralll there's no real way to confirm wither or not someone would mug you
Even then so. I would like to add that what's to say that this would even apply to most cases regarding this matter if it does not then why would the wrong time ever be an argument?
You are correct in the first point, The offspring would have no fault for what it's parents did. like if that was the case then i'd surely be dead as my biological father was a convict however with regards to it being okay to kill or not. it's all subjective though the reason given here would be sound defense for the argument for it.
We kill thousands of animals just so we can live more conveniently yet somehow that same principle would not be okay when regards to a baby. The logic is not all there
I think teaching men to worship women would be what created this problem to begin with, If we had more mutualistic relationships rather then the clear social control which women have then this problem wouldt exist but here we are like what good would chivalry be when whats decided by the suitor would be looks above all else.
Sex outside of marriage is fine, Sticking with one person even if you hate one another has routinely brought about abusive households and so kids have to suffer as a result of the parent's stupid religious beliefs
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