Powers & Abilities Roger could not turn his Supreme Grade Sword into a Black Blade even Though he Loved his sword .......
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I think that's too far fetched. It sounds reasonable to say it gets black as the users will of cutting down an enemy is fulfilled - to some extend, but broadening the will and desire of characters beyond a fighting context (e.g. Roger couldn't fulfill his will of dethroning the WG and hence his blade didn't become black) is too far fetched. And even then. What does accomplished will mean? Zoro accomplished his will be learning how to cut Daz Bones' iron body, yet his blade didn't turn black.
I think it is a mixture of different things, which explains why even the greatest ones (Roger, Whitebeard, Xebec) couldn't turn it black. Extremely powerful CoA is key. Maybe even CoC on top of it (the sword inheriting the user's will, hence "forging" a black blade). But also maybe the style in which you fight with the sword. Like Roger preferring to use Haki barriers through his sword, while Zoro's philosophy is "to cut everything". It's hard to speculate.
But I think the CoA must be peak. And I also assume CoC plays a role too. Since a black blade seems to be even rarer than coating yourself with CoC to attack.
I think it is a mixture of different things, which explains why even the greatest ones (Roger, Whitebeard, Xebec) couldn't turn it black. Extremely powerful CoA is key. Maybe even CoC on top of it (the sword inheriting the user's will, hence "forging" a black blade). But also maybe the style in which you fight with the sword. Like Roger preferring to use Haki barriers through his sword, while Zoro's philosophy is "to cut everything". It's hard to speculate.
But I think the CoA must be peak. And I also assume CoC plays a role too. Since a black blade seems to be even rarer than coating yourself with CoC to attack.
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this is probably one of the best if not they best explanation of black blades.
Many readers see haki as just some kind of supernatural power and do not try to understand the philosophical/spiritual implications of the haki concept itself.
But instead they see everything under power level aspects and "x character > y character".
Many readers see haki as just some kind of supernatural power and do not try to understand the philosophical/spiritual implications of the haki concept itself.
But instead they see everything under power level aspects and "x character > y character".
Oh? So completing your goal makes a sword black?
therefore Zoro will fight Mihawk’s Supreme grade black blade With 3 great grade normal swords and win? Okay.
question is, what if Zoro’s goal wasn’t so lofty? What if Zoro goal from East blue was “To cut steel”… And then Zoro accomplished his goal in Alabasta… Would the criteria of “Black blades are forged when you complete your ambition” be complete?
therefore any swordsman in the entire world who has any ambition should have a black blade and yet we have only two in the entire 1000 year history of the planet…. only Two swordsmen have ever completed their goals in the entire 1000 years
is that it?
therefore Zoro will fight Mihawk’s Supreme grade black blade With 3 great grade normal swords and win? Okay.
question is, what if Zoro’s goal wasn’t so lofty? What if Zoro goal from East blue was “To cut steel”… And then Zoro accomplished his goal in Alabasta… Would the criteria of “Black blades are forged when you complete your ambition” be complete?
therefore any swordsman in the entire world who has any ambition should have a black blade and yet we have only two in the entire 1000 year history of the planet…. only Two swordsmen have ever completed their goals in the entire 1000 years
is that it?
So when Enma turns black end of Wano when Kaido is killed won't my theory make more sense?
Isn't that the only thing Enma needs to turn Black?
The Daz Bones example you gave I remember talking to you about it in a previous thread. So like I said there that It's not your tiny goals (Haki) that really matter. It's your major and final goal that does. All those small level ups and advancement (Haki , Goals, Wish etc) are a part in the journey into making a Black Blade until you reach your end game goal.
While I agree that it takes some degree of proficiency with your Blade to turn it black whether it be with CoA or CoC but I personally don't think Black Blades have anything to do with any particular fighting style and I think its has more to due with the persons "Haki" (Will, Resolve, Goal, Wish, Desire) being fulfilled.
Isn't that the only thing Enma needs to turn Black?
The Daz Bones example you gave I remember talking to you about it in a previous thread. So like I said there that It's not your tiny goals (Haki) that really matter. It's your major and final goal that does. All those small level ups and advancement (Haki , Goals, Wish etc) are a part in the journey into making a Black Blade until you reach your end game goal.
While I agree that it takes some degree of proficiency with your Blade to turn it black whether it be with CoA or CoC but I personally don't think Black Blades have anything to do with any particular fighting style and I think its has more to due with the persons "Haki" (Will, Resolve, Goal, Wish, Desire) being fulfilled.
wdym he doesnt use it to do sword slashes
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the only difference between his attacks and other "pure swordsmen" is that its coated in coc
do you stop calling luffy's attacks punches the moment they are coated in coc?
slash: cut (something) with a violent sweeping movement, typically using a knife or sword.
its as simple as we dont know what goes into making a black blade .
lol I have never thought it was simply a strength feat
tho if you want to drop a selfie , you can do so without quoting me.
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the only difference between his attacks and other "pure swordsmen" is that its coated in coc
do you stop calling luffy's attacks punches the moment they are coated in coc?
slash: cut (something) with a violent sweeping movement, typically using a knife or sword.
its as simple as we dont know what goes into making a black blade .
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tho if you want to drop a selfie , you can do so without quoting me.
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I think it has to be an almost impossible ambition (Haki, Will, Goal, Wish, Resolve). It can't be something as tiny as cutting Iron, or Defeating a Marine Captain, or a 100 mil bounty pirate. Considering there are only 2 Black Blades it should be something on a World Strongest level feat and Ambition. like the 2 known Black Blade users.
Regarding Zoro Beating Mihawk without a Black Blade.... why not???
your other points are addressed in my reply to Comrade.
Regarding Zoro Beating Mihawk without a Black Blade.... why not???
your other points are addressed in my reply to Comrade.
Well, would be reasonabe. Enma turning black after beheading Kaido. When it's only Enma that will turn black. But that would mean that Wado turns black only once he defeats Mihawk. But what about Kitetsu? Wado is tied to his dream, Enma to Kaido. But Kitetsu?
I think there has to be a foundation for everyone? Like Roger's ambition being certainly higher than just becoming the WSS swordsman. I think that ambition should at least be tied to a battle context. If it was Roger's greatest ambition to become PK, which he could become without drawing his blade, why would the blade turn black?
I think there has to be a foundation for everyone? Like Roger's ambition being certainly higher than just becoming the WSS swordsman. I think that ambition should at least be tied to a battle context. If it was Roger's greatest ambition to become PK, which he could become without drawing his blade, why would the blade turn black?
