Is jinbe gonna witness greatness soon?


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tho zoro was compared with ryuma

and chapter 1023 is named "sppiting image"referring to zoro and ryuma the deal is that oda didn't want to go further
and joyboy names rivalizes with ryuma is only comparing their feats
Imagine all that build up leading into nothingness...
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I’m not either but do you see a lot of people complaining about Zoro’s character and the utter destruction of any plot lines linked to him? And I mean in a meaningful way.

I did not. But I saw a lot of people used Shaka’s words at the beggining of Egghead island as a badge of honor.

What do you think reach Oda’s ears?
This.
I fail to realize how nobody outside of Zoro fandom is bothered by the many Wano plot points involving Zoro that were tossed into the dirt. I've never seen any famous yt/twitter analyist even ever mentioning the fact. Is as if we are crazy or something and we imagined everything, yet the panels are right there...
 
joyboy names rivalizes with ryuma is only comparing their feats
Well their feats matter more than Fuckin facial resemblances… TF? Of course the damn feats matter more…

When the arc ends, as in after Kaido is defeated ALL ANYONE TALKS ABOUT IS THE FEATS… Luffy is now going to become legend in Wano rivaling Ryuma while Zoro is some guy who looks like him… Oda didn’t even feel the need to show Zoro going to Ryumams grave because it matters that little
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I've never seen any famous yt/twitter analyist even ever mentioning the fact
@DKI
Oh you should check out Mr. Morj

Unfortunately he doesn’t tweet his opinions and he doesn’t make negative videos on his main channel but his live streams which are available on YouTube have him go off OVER AND OVER AND OVER about Wano plotlines

he even made another channel specifically for taking clips from his live streams and BASHING plotlines he doesn’t like in Wano… This is my favorite where he bashes Yamato before that chapter when she didn’t join. This was him hating before it was even cool to hate her


He promises that he will make a LENGTHY review of Wano as a whole to shit on it one day but in general the guy mostly makes positive videos so you have to dig through his Live streams to here him go off
 
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he even made another channel specifically for taking clips from his live streams and BASHING plotlines he doesn’t like in Wano… This is my favorite where he bashes Yamato before that chapter when she didn’t join. This was him hating before it was even cool to hate her


He promises that he will make a LENGTHY review of Wano as a whole to shit on it one day but in general the guy mostly makes positive videos so you have to dig through his Live streams to here him go off
Is this the guy with the downfall of one piece videos?
 
Zoro is and will always be closer to Luffy in strength to Sanji. Sometimes he is equal to Luffy in strength. Currently Luffy is stronger than Zoro and that is because of his awakening and haki growth. If Luffy didn't have both he would be equal in strength to Zoro.

The main power that allowed Luffy to hang with Kaido, fight evenly against Kaido, force Kaido to recognize Luffy as a worthy opponent and beat Kaido was his haki growth. Yes, DF awakening did play a role in Kaido's defeat but if it wasn't for his haki he wouldn't have beat Kaido.

Zoro, like Luffy, grew stronger thanks to his haki growth which included his ability to manipulate haki, it's strength, and size.

I know, some people might be thinking. Luffy haki growth was more and his is stronger. Well, you're wrong. Both of their haki (CoA/CoC) growth and strength is more or less equal. This can be determined by looking at Oden and understand his strength.

Oden is an incredibly strong character. One of the strongest samurais to ever from Wano and the strongest samurai Kaido has ever faced. Kaido ranked Oden in the same tier as Shanks, Roger, WB and Rocks.


Like Rogers, it was the strength/size of his haki that made him an incredibly strong character. Oden's haki almost 2 shot Kaido and scarred him.


Kaido told us haki is the strongest power in One Piece.


Zoro's haki strength/size surpassed Oden's in Wano.

Ever since Zoro received enma he has been trying to figure out the correct amount of haki to us to control enma.

During his battle with King, Zoro started to realize Oden was able to use enma easily even though he was using large amounts of haki.


That's when Zoro understood the key to controlling and mastering enma was using large amounts of haki. Zoro didn't match Oden's haki output. Instead, he surpassed Oden's haki output.

We know from Zoro's use of enma when we see smoke/steam coming form swords it means overwhelming large amounts of CoA haki was added to the swords.


When Zoro first start to master enma all 3 of his swords have smoke/steam coming from them which means he is using an overwhelming large amounts of haki with all 3 swords.

The reason for that is Zoro keeps the power between the number of swords he uses even. He doesn't like one sword to have more or less power than his other swords.

The proof Zoro is the one controlling the haki output, and not just allowing enma to take his haki can be determined by looking at his battle with King where he changes his haki out throughout the battle.

No smoke/steam from the swords.


Smoke/steam coming from swords.


Zoro only uses overwhelming large amounts of haki when he uses KoH attacks. KoH attacks are when Zoro uses overwhelming large amounts of CoA haki and ACoC haki together.

Proof Zoro has greater CoA haki output than Oden can easy be determined by the lack of smoke/steam coming from Oden's blackened CoA haki swords.



Now let's look at Zoro's CoC haki.

Not only can Zoro use his ACoC separately from KoH attacks.


Zoro can match his overwhelming large amounts of CoA haki with equally overwhelming large amounts of ACoC haki. When he does that he calls his fighting style, dragon sword style.

As you can see from my post, I proved Zoro has greater haki output than Oden. Factor in Zoro's CoA only being strong enough to scar Kaido and that proves even before his grow Zoro's haki was stronger than Oden's and has more potential. All oh that means Zoro surpassed Oden during Wano and has the power to kill Kaido.

That's explains why the author notes stated Zoro's DD attack could slay a dragon with a single hit. KoH has the power to scar Kaido. While Dragon style has the power to slay Kaido.

Zoro being stronger than Oden puts him much closer to Luffy strength than Sanji.

I didn't want to quote this post in the shitpost central aka battledome. :suresure:
To me KoH style is equal amounts of adCoA and AdCoC and KoH 3 Dragons style is mostly conqueror's haki.
I think the visual says it all, the "size" of the flame and the CoC lightning is about the same.


While KoH 3 Dragons style is all about the massive lightning streaks

Not bad for the CoA "specialist". :myman:
 
I didn't want to quote this post in the shitpost central aka battledome. :suresure:
To me KoH style is equal amounts of adCoA and AdCoC and KoH 3 Dragons style is mostly conqueror's haki.
I think the visual says it all, the "size" of the flame and the CoC lightning is about the same.


While KoH 3 Dragons style is all about the massive lightning streaks

Not bad for the CoA "specialist". :myman:
Bro zoro is a hakimaster and koh is the best wano pu imagine combine AcoA with Acoc none other haki user has able to do that and in the future AcOO bloom against Shiryu
 
This.
I fail to realize how nobody outside of Zoro fandom is bothered by the many Wano plot points involving Zoro that were tossed into the dirt. I've never seen any famous yt/twitter analyist even ever mentioning the fact. Is as if we are crazy or something and we imagined everything, yet the panels are right there...
Goes to show the heavy bias against Zoro or its their content on Luffy beating the big bad no matter how badly its written. Wano turned into bird shit, because of that. It ruined Kaido as well. BM is safe because I never thought she really mattered for Wano to be great. Having Zoro do a 180 from wanting to kill kaido, to believing in Luffy(after seeing him almost die multiple times) made no sense for him to say, even though I believe Zoro believes in luffy the most. So many plot points that was building to something for Zoro to best Kaido(even the anime added some filler for it) got scratched or put on hold. All of it left a bad taste in my mouth, liked we been hoodwinked.
 
Goes to show the heavy bias against Zoro or its their content on Luffy beating the big bad no matter how badly its written. Wano turned into bird shit, because of that. It ruined Kaido as well. BM is safe because I never thought she really mattered for Wano to be great. Having Zoro do a 180 from wanting to kill kaido, to believing in Luffy(after seeing him almost die multiple times) made no sense for him to say, even though I believe Zoro believes in luffy the most. So many plot points that was building to something for Zoro to best Kaido(even the anime added some filler for it) got scratched or put on hold. All of it left a bad taste in my mouth, liked we been hoodwinked.
Yup I will never get over it.
Zoro for the Wano arc has had the typical Hero's Journey like set up. Zoro visited Ebisu, met the sorrow and pain of the people caused by the Smiles and by Kaido, became friend with the local people, these people gave him to eat, despite they didnt have for themselves. He saved the daughter of Oden, the hero who couldn't kill Kaido to save his country. He was given Oden's sword, Enma, the "magic/cursed object" signature of many fantasy stories (swords and sorcery subgenre) who holds a massive simbolic importance, learning to master the object is the key to defeat the villain (the main one, not the last second random used to fill a hole). Since 15 years he has been paralleled with Ryuma, the dragonslayer, Dragon is the fruit of Kaido. Another character of the past is introduced with the same aspect as Zoro, obviously clearly with the intent of introducing us readers to Zoro's origin, that would connect him to Wano furthermore.
Then everything suddenly is scrap paper. Joyboy and Nika comes out of nowhere into play, even Zunisha appear completely random only to announce Joyboy's return and then goes back in the shadows,
Yet the most ppl out there, really believe that all of this was only written so that Zoro could fight King, a character we knew nothing of and we only had a tiny backstory once he had to fight Zoro. An opponent and a fight who had very little narrative relevance with the rest of the Wano events.
And also, AdvCoc was clearly the highlighted power up of the arc, as it was set upped since Oden flashback with Roger vs WB.
When was Nika ever heard of? Nowhere to be found prior to a random convo between who's who and jinbe while they were fighting.
That awaken came straight out of the author or some editor ass cause suddenly he decided that the mc wasn't stronger enough than anyone else around him.
Sorry if I still vent about Wano, I will never get past it. So much I can't get involved at all into this new arc. Zoro was really done dirt and it piss me off so much that only few fans are bothered by it.
 

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it piss me off so much that only few fans are bothered by it.
As Doffy would say - I have gone beyond the anger, I can only laugh now.
Oda isnt that guy, he has proven it with Wano. Spending a minute of our time being pissed about greatest fail of his career isnt worth it.
And you are not the only one who cant get into this new arc, it's all due to his writing going down the drain. Soon more things will be ruined, just like Wano was, as soon as MC interacts with them. Just get popcorn and watch.
 
Dude seriously i'm pretty mad with lolda not only for the end of wano but also this arc i understood zoro didn't go with the others for the seraphim plot but come on not showing him during a whole month or didn't even give him a plot and if you guys look at this chapter kaku was going up but he bait with those bombs(done in purpose)the only think that can save is if lilith betrays the others or someone attacks the sunny
 
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