Rate Sanji new Elbaf outfit ?


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Doggo

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this could emphasize the "relationship" between Vegapunk and Sora. Sora is Vegapunk's sister/daughter? or Sora is a scientist too? :noo:

im pretty sure Queen is work together with Judge and Vegapunk. He is quite old too right, i assume late 40's.
Thing is, their team worked primarily on the concept of Lineage Factor. this was their BIG DISCOVERY.
Queen so far doesn't seem to fit the bill. He just seems to focus on an entire different field, being bio hazards.
 

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Thing is, their team worked primarily on the concept of Lineage Factor. this was their BIG DISCOVERY.
Queen so far doesn't seem to fit the bill. He just seems to focus on an entire different field, being bio hazards.
so your assumption is Vegapunk, Queen, and Judge might work together in extraction of Kaido's lineage factor into devil fruit??
But yes so far Queen is more like Biohazards guy.
 
As for the doubt, Vegapunk is the most obvious answer if you ask me who made Sora's drug.

> Whoever made the drug must be someone who knows enough about the lineage factor to create a drug that could actually counteract the effects of such surgery.
> As we know, Vegapunk joined Judge to study the lineage factor and make superhumans
> Vegapunk is not an unethical evil genius, we know that he has his own moral principles. Then, Vegapunk and Judge came into conflict due to the difference in their respective morals in relation to the manipulation of emotions. And Vegapunk later sympathized with Sora.

But what really creates doubt, even though Vegapunk has neutralized the effects of emotions, we have a lot of evidence to prove that Sanji has been genetically altered
Sanji is genetically modified. Didn't that random germa scientist that works for Judge confirm it if I remember correctly? It's just that Judge's intended modification (Inborn super strength, Exoskeleton, possibly invisiblity) didn't manifest in Sanji. Either Sora's drug mutated Judge's modification somehow and it completely changed from the original, or it neutralized it and installed it's own unique modification.

If it's the second option then Sora's drug is originally made to give some lineage factor modification to it's recipient which is a very interesting possibility.
 

Doggo

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There are a few strings of storyline regarding Momonosuke+Sanji+Queen that can be REALLY interesting.
Too bad it would setup a Sanji vs Queen instead of Sanji vs King, so I dont know if I would root for it to happen.
Momo seems to be struggling with this pressure of him being more than what he currently is. The expectations are taking a toll on him.
Sanji had a similar problem during his childhood. The difference is that Momo internalizes that he is worthless, while Sanji was told that by others. An external source.
I do wonder if they are gonna have some cool interaction regarding this matter. That would be dope.
Would make me dislike Momo a little bit less. :P
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so your assumption is Vegapunk, Queen, and Judge might work together in extraction of Kaido's lineage factor into devil fruit??
But yes so far Queen is more like Biohazards guy.
No no.
I THINK Queen is just someone that, being a scientist himself, he knows about Vegapunk and Judge. I actually don't think he worked with them, precisely because his work with bio hazards is different from their work with genetics.
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Sanji is genetically modified. Didn't that random germa scientist that works for Judge confirm it if I remember correctly? It's just that Judge's intended modification (Inborn super strength, Exoskeleton, possibly invisiblity) didn't manifest in Sanji. Either Sora's mutated Judge's modification somehow and it completely changed from the original, or it neutralized it and installed it's own unique modification.

If it's the second option then Sora's drug is originally made to give some lineage factor modification to it's recipient which is a very interesting possibility.
That's what I understood as well. The modifications happened, but not as Judge planned, because of the drug interference.
That's also why his hair isn't the color of his "position". Reiju is Pink, same as her suit. Ichiji red, Niji blue and Yonji green. Sanji SHOULD have been Black (Stealth BLACK, after all).
That's why I still bet on the "Reverse Super Sayan" power up. LMAO.
 

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Sanji is genetically modified. Didn't that random germa scientist that works for Judge confirm it if I remember correctly? It's just that Judge's intended modification (Inborn super strength, Exoskeleton, possibly invisiblity) didn't manifest in Sanji. Either Sora's drug mutated Judge's modification somehow and it completely changed from the original, or it neutralized it and installed it's own unique modification.

If it's the second option then Sora's drug is originally made to give some lineage factor modification to it's recipient which is a very interesting possibility.
Sanji basically have no "Vinsmokes powerup".
so i think Sora's drug makes new power for Sanji instead of the original power from Judge.

but the Vinsmokes DNA/Blood still allowed Sanji to be able to use Raid Suit.
 
That's is literally his theory.
Judge used the Lineage Factor manipulation to imbue DF abilities within his children, without the drawbacks of the swim curse, or weakness to kairouseki. He was supposed to have invisibility, to match his suit, but Sora's drug interfered with it and somehow modified Sanji to give him the Fire power instead, while also keeping his emotions.
Am I correct, @Chrono ?
Yh pretty much. I made this theory of Sora's Drug being where DJ/HM came from since Sanji's FB came out. I thought of this because it made no sense for Sanji to have a curly eyebrow if his Lineage Factor was not modified. Since his mother doesnt have one...and Judge likely doesnt have one either. And if the curly eyebrow was a Vinsmoke inheritence thing, then Sanji's eyebrow would logically point in the same direction as his siblings. So then I made a proper theory thread on it on OJ. And a few here I think.

But the main jist is.

- Judge's modifications follow the Comic Book written about them. Why Judge follows it and who wrote the book is still unknown
- Judge planned for Sanji to be Stealth Black from the comic books. Giving him invisibility modification and a RS. And also creating his RS before birth
- Sora got her drug from Vegapunk, and it had DF properties. The drug modified Sanji's Lineage Factor completely, so instead of ending up like another Reiju ( Modfications but also has emotions)....he ended up a complete "failure". Well failure for Judge's modifications. Sora's goal was to never make her children normal human beings....she just wanted them to have emotions.
- So Sanji failed Judge's modifcations due to getting modified by Sora's Drug (made by Vegapunk).

- But yh anyways Sora's drug is the root to Sanji's flame powers. I got this idea from Gaara ( Naruto ) who thought his powers came from his Tailed Beast. But in truth it was from his mother always protecting him.

- Now the part I'm iffy about is the emotions. Did Sora's drug give Sanji emotions...thus explaining why Sanji's DJ is emotion based. Or did it just take away Judge's emotion-less modification...

But yh anyways Oda has been hinting about Sanji being special for a long time. He may try to hide it so Sanji looks normal for now.

But if you look at the small hints Oda does...such as:

- Sanji's eyebrows having the same circular energy as Celestial Bodies
- Sanji's eyebrows being similar to Devil Fruits.
- Zoro stating Sanji will transform
- Usopp stating that Sanji was born under a miraculous star
- Sanji having the same bloodtype as his brothers and not his father.

and many other hints. It's obvious Sanji is not as normal as Oda is makes him out to be.
 

Doggo

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explain, because i dont know what is Kurama Yoko lol
Spoilers from Yu Yu Hakusho.
Kurama (pink dude) is one of the main characters of Yu Yu Hakusho. The white hair dude is his "original self". He was a legendary thief in the demon world, that reborned inside a human baby to survive (pink dude). During one of the fights in the series, his enemy uses a smoke that "reverts" people. He tried to revert Kurama back to a baby, but the smoke worked too well, and reverted him back to his original Kurama Yoko self. Is was a temporary thing. But later Kurama is given a potion that gives the special smoke effect for a while, so he can temporarily activate his "Yoko" transformation.
 

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- But yh anyways Sora's drug is the root to Sanji's flame powers. I got this idea from Gaara ( Naruto ) who thought his powers came from his Tailed Beast. But in truth it was from his mother always protecting him.
Good point!! :optimistic:
- Now the part I'm iffy about is the emotions. Did Sora's drug give Sanji emotions...thus explaining why Sanji's DJ is emotion based. Or did it just take away Judge's emotion-less modification...
This is make sense because Vinsmokes has no emotion (except Reiju) and because Sora failed Sanji's modification so if Sanji is more angry, thus the Diable Jambe will be much more stronger.
 

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My arguments/assumptions about this panel from CP0 Discussion
1. CP0 know about Vegapunk use Kaido's lineage factor or bloodline elements to make a devil fruit.
2. We knew in the end, the "fruit" got eaten by Momo which is exactly looks like Kaido's Azure Dragon, but in this case the dragon is small and had pink color. I assume because Momo is still small too and there is a Japanese lore/myth that said Momonosuke is a Peach Boy.
3. "But according to G-5s Reports, one of the labs there was still functioning at the time", Vergo and Monet return?? @Akai2 :noo:
4. Now i had assumption if Vegapunk and Judge succeed in extracting devil fruit power to be somehow inside Vinsmoke's DNA / Vinsmoke's Raid Suit.
5. This means Sanji's original power was invisibility because of raid suit and original modified DNA, but somehow Sora disrupted by consuming drugs.
6. This could mean the drug what makes Sanji had Diable Jambe ability(?)
Interesting. But I don't think DJ is genetic. If rumors are correct about Sanji gaining a new ability, it'll probably be a devil fruit not an awakened latent ability.

As for Vergo and Monet, I believe the lab they're referring to was the one Law destroyed. So they probably have no intel on it's current state. So I'm gonna go with them being dead for now, but I'd sure love Vergo to come back for the meme and Mont for the :steef:
 
Interesting. But I don't think DJ is genetic. If rumors are correct about Sanji gaining a new ability, it'll probably be a devil fruit not an awakened latent ability.

As for Vergo and Monet, I believe the lab they're referring to was the one Law destroyed. So they probably have no intel on it's current state. So I'm gonna go with them being dead for now, but I'd sure love Vergo to come back for the meme and Mont for the :steef:
 
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