Powers & Abilities There Can no Longer be Any Doubt; Mihawk is a Conqueror

How powerful is Mihawk's Haoshoku?


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#61
Well it's heading to that direction. The keypoints were

- A sword choosing it's wielders on their own and wanting it's wielder to measure up to it's standards


With Zoro needing king's haki to tame Enma, with the foreshadowing on having the "potential" to turn it black

And we know that Mihawk has the World Strongest Blade, which was turned black, so that means that Mihawk needs to have high level mastery of coc-coating to be able to turn it black, or high level coc mastery to be able to tame the blade.

- Then there is this panel, where King asks if Zoro has kingly ambitions

With the mini-flashback going back to his ambition to become WSS, replying to King that it's indeed the case, all of this suggesting you need kingly ambitions to be able to become WSS
 
#62
In my perspective, Mihawk joining Shichibukai system literally removes any Kingly Ambition he used to have. Is not the same about Hancock and Doffy because they being Shichibukai were part of their plan.
Yeah, making exceptions to your own rules. Mihawk just as Doffy and Hancock had his reasons. He already conquered all the swordsman and is standing at the top, so he fulfilled his goal. By becoming Shichibukai, he could chill at his throne in the castle drinking wine without the marines or WG getting on his nerves - clever. Hancock does nothing but sitting on her island either. And as the Shichibukai were abandoned, Mihawk was excited, since it has been a long time he was the one being chased.
 
#63
When Zoro defeats Mihawk it will be extreme diff fight. It's not a new level.
Too much copium. And headcanon.

mihawk said Lolo will surpass his sword, ''surpass'' , that's not surpassing that little b!tch mihawk.

And to believe that Luffy's underling Lolo will extreme-diff someone who is stronger than even Yonko is still lol worhy. And a proof that Lolo fans read 2 Piece. That can never happen in this story, never ever.
 
#64
To be honest, I hate idea every top tier should have coc thing because it sent wrong message to people that people without coc are not top tier. Coc is Thst you have to be born with it. Coc can’t be trained to just have it. Is oda is tell us talent + hard work or talent > hard work (Zoro and luffy look like they work hardbut zoro worker harder than anyone) I doubt kadio is personal trainer for Yamato which why is she is strong.

It is goes like this:

Oh you work hard to build your strength but you don’t coc thing ? Too bad, you are not top tier club.

Then where people make fallacy arguments , people coc > people without coc without logic on it.

it is like claiming luffy beat Goku. Because luffy has coc. Goku don‘t have it.

How I see coc
Coc - fodder control

Advanced coc - boost your attack power and hit even harder(supposed to be better version of advanced coA)

But yeah milhawk will have conquerer haki because zoro have it. It is story wise to make sense of it.
 
#66
I am not a fan of everyone having adv CoC but Mihawk will def have it now.

I much rather would have preferred Mihawk focusing solely on CoA and forging his blade black entirely due to it, that way we would have CoA Mihawk vs CoC Shanks.

That way the notion that you don't necessary need CoC to be top tier but might well throw that out of the window now.

Dragon, Yonko and Mihawk are the top 6 atm (no order), until I see more of Admirals and Gorosei.
 
#68
Yeah, making exceptions to your own rules. Mihawk just as Doffy and Hancock had his reasons..
He never said or anyone ever said he had reasons to become Shichibukai, you are being a mihawk fanboy confirmed.

He already conquered all the swordsman and is standing at the top,.
-mihawk was never even mentioned in Wano, he never even conquered Wano Samurai
-mihawk never dueled even with Vista before, who is according to mihawk, is a famous swordsman, and mihawk postponed against him when he had chance to conquer him, he never even conquered Vista
-mihawk never conquered even Pre-Yonko Shanks, as he said he doesn't want to ''settle'' things with him after Shanks's injury, he never beat even Pre-Yonko Shanks, let alone Yonko Shanks
-you don't believe mihawk conquered Fujitora or Rayleigh, do you? :suresure:

mihawk didn't conquer shit, there is a reason Lolo novel says mihawk's title is debatable.
so he fulfilled his goal..
mihawk is a pirate, we don't know what his goal is, he literally admitted being PK is even harder than surpassing him, he says being PK > SURPASSING mihawk > mihawk, mihawk says he can't be PK even if he wanted, since even surpassing his level is not enough to be a PK. mihawk says that, you make excuses about mihawk's goal, no one ever said anything about what mihawk's goal was or is, baseless shit again.

By becoming Shichibukai, he could chill at his throne in the castle drinking wine without the marines or WG getting on his nerves - clever. Hancock does nothing but sitting on her island either. And as the Shichibukai were abandoned, Mihawk was excited, since it has been a long time he was the one being chased.
yes by being a shichibukai he can protect his insignificant island which is in paradise grandline not even in new world from Larines and Ladmirals, which makes him a government dog due to his weakness, when they are also busy with Yonko, imagine he can't even protect his insignificant island from Larines but fanboys believing he is yonko level :gokulaugh:
 
#70
He never said or anyone ever said he had reasons to become Shichibukai
He said being a Shichibukai proves he is not a conqueror, while at the same time saying "it's different for Boa and Doffy because they had a plan".
mihawk was never mentioned in Wano, never conquered Wano Samurai
So? It's an isolated country. Have they talked about Shanks? Roger? Whitebeard? It became Kaido's territory 20 years ago. Of course Mihawk won't walk into Wano solo either, having a whole country against him.
mihawk never dueled even with Vista, who is according to mihawk, is a famous swordsman, and he postponed against him, never conquered Vista
So? Vista was happy to hear Mihawk heard his name. He postponed, so what? He postponed against Krieg even though Krieg opened fire at him.
mihawk never conquered even Pre-Yonko Shanks, as he said he doesn't want to ''settle'' things with him after Shanks's injury, he never beat even Pre-Yonko Shanks, let alone Yonko Shanks
So? they had multiple fights and were basically rivals. Which means, similar if not the same growth rate. Now he doesn't want to settle because Shanks nerfed himself. Maybe it's a personal thing too, as Shanks found something more important to give his arm to than to their rivalry. Yet Mihawk gladly accepts people stronger than himself, even goes as far as to train Zoro himself to have an opponent to surpass himself.
you don't believe mihawk conquered Fujitora, Roger, Rayleigh, do you? :suresure:
Roger and Ray are from a different era. As for Fujitora, who knows.
mihawk didn't conquer shit, there is a reason Lolo novel says mihawk's title is debatable
First of all, how canon is the novel? It just tells the story from one perspective, in which some fodder marines were debating what swordsman is the strongest. And just to be clear, these marines were talking about Zoro vs. Vista vs. Mihawk vs. Shanks. So they even put Shanks into this equation.
admitted being PK is even harder than surpassing him
Yeah, because you have to be stronger than all Yonko, including Kaido, also having a powerful crew, alliances, conquer the grandline and finding the One Piece.

Wow. Those tears are salty af.

 
#76
He said being a Shichibukai proves he is not a conqueror, while at the same time saying "it's different for Boa and Doffy because they had a plan".
True, because Boa needs to think about her own island and people, who mihawk needs to think about? Baboons? There is literally no one in that island that he can worry about, he can randomly fight without being distracted.

As for Doflamingo, his island is in new world, which makes it even more valuable than other islands, plus he has underworld connections so he needs that protection.

mihawk was just chilling on his insignificant island without worrying about anyone,

this alone proves mihawk is not worthy since he cares about no one,

Lolo fans think Lolo meant the title, but he is talking about giving promises to other people, being a king by keeping his promises to others, that's how one becomes king, via connection with others.

what promises mihawk gave to baboons? what promises mihawk accomplished in his life? Literally no evidences here.

Does mihawk even want to settle things with Shanks? What is his ambition? He didn't even keep attacking WB after saying he wants to see the power difference.

Look at Blackbeard, and Shanks, they constantly challenge people, always has ambition to surpass others,

mihawk showed none of that, he constantly postpones and declines duel with Shanks, gives up to see the power difference between WB and himself once Jozu showed up.

So? It's an isolated country. Have they talked about Shanks? Roger? Whitebeard? It became Kaido's territory 20 years ago. Of course Mihawk won't walk into Wano solo either, having a whole country against him.
Kaido did mention Shanks, WB, Roger etc

You said mihawk conquered other swordsman, he didn't conquer Wano Samurai

Kaido conquered Wano Samurai,

Even Big mom didn't give a fuck and attacked them,

when did mihawk attack Wano?

Even Ace went there when he was Pre-Prime, had duel with Yamato.

mihawk is still mia.

So? Vista was happy to hear Mihawk heard his name. He postponed, so what? He postponed against Krieg even though Krieg opened fire at him.

So? they had multiple fights and were basically rivals. Which means, similar if not the same growth rate. Now he doesn't want to settle because Shanks nerfed himself. Maybe it's a personal thing too, as Shanks found something more important to give his arm to than to their rivalry. Yet Mihawk gladly accepts people stronger than himself, even goes as far as to train Zoro himself to have an opponent to surpass himself.

Roger and Ray are from a different era. As for Fujitora, who knows.
Vista is humble, look at Buggy, he didn't give a fuck, attacked him casually, or look at Crocodile, you think they are superior to Vista, or Vista is a humble guy?

Debunked.

What krieg has anything to do with this? mihawk destroyed krieg's fleet anyway, he didn't need to do more, he did nothing against Vista,

You said he conquered other swordsman, I said he didn't even conquer Vista, then you gave example about Krieg? What? Krieg isn't even a swordsman, what nonsense is this?

Shanks wanted to duel with mihawk, mihawk declined it, they could find out who is the stronger if mihawk didn't decline it, of course you fanboys would say Pre-Yonko Blackbeard retreating from Lakainu means Lakainu stronger, when Blackbeard has strategical reasons, and when his crew was bored and he shouldn't be fighting with Larines again on that island in a potential ambush after already soloing Sengoku+Garp, but when it comes to prime mihawk, mihawk declining to duel with Shanks, means nothing, double standards I guess.

If Shanks was nerfed, he couldn't be a Yonko, doesn't mihawk follow newspapers? Why he isn't curious how Shanks become a Yonko when he is nerfed and how he didn't lose to Kaido and WB? mihawk definitely can see and sense that Shanks's power has grown stronger and he doesn't want that smoke, he didn't conquer shit, he just play safe.

If you don't know if mihawk conquered Fujitora or not, why are you saying mihawk conquered all swordsman? So Fujitora is not a swordsman or not? If you don't know you shouldn't be wanking mihawk with saying he conquered every swordsman.

mihawk only accepted to train Lolo, because Lolo begged him like a little b!tch and mihawk realized Lolo is doing this for Luffy's sake, and mihawk is interested in Luffy's journey to become PK, as he even went to Shanks like little b!tch and informed Shanks about Luffy's first bounty, that's how mihawk is, a sidekick observer nothing to do with top tiers in the story, no way Oda will give this guy big ambitions and make him as powerful as ambitious Yonko, it's ridiculous,

mihawk's part in this story helping SH pirates at this point, he won't go to fight Lolo after Luffy becomes PK and they won't fight in an isolated island to see who is stronger, that's irrelevant to story, Lolo vs King is relevant only because of Luffy, Lolo vs. mihawk should be relevant to story as well, mihawk either joins Shanks and fights either BB pirates or SH pirates, and he would be weaker than Shanks by doing that,

or he can keep staying irrelevant and Lolo casually surpasses him while mihawk is still doing nothing in the story, he should lose his so called empty title due to inactivity.

First of all, how canon is the novel? It just tells the story from one perspective, in which some fodder marines were debating what swordsman is the strongest. And just to be clear, these marines were talking about Zoro vs. Vista vs. Mihawk vs. Shanks. So they even put Shanks into this equation.
People in one piece world are not sure who is the greatest swordsman,

There would be no doubt who is PK and who are Yonko.

That's the difference.

mihawk didn't conquer shit, that's why they can say Vista and Pre-Yonko Shanks, since they all fought and there was no winner.

It's that simple,

We learned mihawk wasn't even in Wano as well, he didn't conquer Wano Samurai too, you believe he conquered every swordsman where there is literally 0 evidence that he did.

Yeah, because you have to be stronger than all Yonko, including Kaido, also having a powerful crew, alliances, conquer the grandline and finding the One Piece.
According to you mihawk fanboys, mihawk is Yonko level or even above right?

mihawk says surpassing him is not enough to be PK.

If anyone is above Yonko level, it's easy to become a PK.

Luffy's biggest challenge is surpassing Yonko level, the rest is just details.

If you think Luffy's biggest challenge is not surpassing Yonko level, you are being a mihawk fanboy and a troll.

Once Luffy surpasses Yonko level, the rest is a piece of cake.

If mihawk was Yonko level, then surpassing him would make things extremely easy to be the PK.

As usual debunked hard.
 
#78
Yeah, making exceptions to your own rules. Mihawk just as Doffy and Hancock had his reasons. He already conquered all the swordsman and is standing at the top, so he fulfilled his goal. By becoming Shichibukai, he could chill at his throne in the castle drinking wine without the marines or WG getting on his nerves - clever. Hancock does nothing but sitting on her island either. And as the Shichibukai were abandoned, Mihawk was excited, since it has been a long time he was the one being chased.
Mihawk turning into Shichibukai is being a pussy. He used to hunt who ever he want to. By suddenly he wants Marines to stop hunting him so he can focus only on really low class pirates like Krieg?
 
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