Shanks killed Mihawk and Boa that's why there are Seraphim clones of them. The current Mihawk, Boa and other warlords are actually the same as Kuma. Their clones exist because Vegapunk did the procedure on them as well.
 

Shimotsuki Ghostly

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Shanks might die to bb before the final war, him being alive by the final war would make things too bloated towards the alliance side unless he is a snitch which has a very low possibility
I feel Oda is purposely giving Shanks all this wank with Film Red and in the manga purposely, because he knows hes gonna kill him off soon or something. I'm getting Jiraiya deja vu or even Ace lmao.

Shanks getting "red flags" for real which is ironic given his red hair and red theming too lol. Drake also had the nickname of "Red Flag" too?

If Shanks dies though, I'm legit gonna be so upset regardless.
 
I feel Oda is purposely giving Shanks all this wank with Film Red and in the manga purposely, because he knows hes gonna kill him off soon or something. I'm getting Jiraiya deja vu or even Ace lmao.

Shanks getting "red flags" for real which is ironic given his red hair and red theming too lol. Drake also had the nickname of "Red Flag" too?

If Shanks dies though, I'm legit gonna be so upset regardless.
Shanks vs bb has a decent amount of build up in the manga, with whatever low screen time shanks has he is most of the time either talking about teach or directly confronted by him and now even he is in the race for the one piece and his biggest obstacle would be teach.

There is that scar that teach gave him and in road to laughtale it said that scars would lead to the characters having a battle once again like mihawk's scar to zoro. Shanks even has his jolley roger with his scar lol.

I believe shanks is rocks's son and him facing teach would fit into the pattern of the child of a powerful character does not inherit the will of their father and its often times the opposite

Monkey D. Garp - His son Dragon directly looks to overthrow the organization he works for and his grandson (who he also raised, seeing as how Luffy didn't even know he had a father) is also one of their biggest threats and aims to become Pirate King like his rival, Roger.
* Gol D. Roger - His son Portgas D. Ace completely rejected him and dedicated his life to making his pirate rival, Whitebeard, the Pirate King.
* Kaido - His son Yamato (born the same year as Momo btw) literally wants to be Kozuki Oden, the only person to ever scar him and someone he only shamefully defeated through trickery.
* Oden - While his son Momonosuke seeks to carry out his father’s will, by an ironic twist of fate he ate a Devil Fruit that turned him into a Dragon, the same form as the beast who killed his father. In fact, it was confirmed that Momo’s fruit is directly based off of Kaido’s.
* (Rocks D.) Shanks? - If what I believe to be true, Shanks is the son of Rocks D. Xebec, and was raised by his father’s rival Gol D. Roger, who he respects and reveres. Shanks seeks to stop Marshall D. Teach, the man who inherited his father’s evil will.
 

Shimotsuki Ghostly

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Shanks vs bb has a decent amount of build up in the manga, with whatever low screen time shanks has he is most of the time either talking about teach or directly confronted by him and now even he is in the race for the one piece and his biggest obstacle would be teach.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. BB was probs the pirate that Shanks tried to warn the Gorosei about too, as he tried to warn WB and thus Ace too. The WG has been underestimating BB despite what he did to Marineford and WB in front of them too and what hes capable of now as well.
I do see things playing out as you said there.

There is that scar that teach gave him and in road to laughtale it said that scars would lead to the characters having a battle once again like mihawk's scar to zoro. Shanks even has his jolley roger with his scar lol.

I believe shanks is rocks's son and him facing teach would fit into the pattern of the child of a powerful character does not inherit the will of their father and its often times the opposite
Ah interesting, it does feel like they are setup for a rematch and that solidfies it then, seals it for sure.

Aye, the sins of the father theme that OP likes to talk about too, children arent guilty of their fathers sins unless they're born Kurozumis I guess /s.

BB might be jealous of Shanks for being Xebecs son if he is his son and thus be disgusted by Shanks attitude/actions and such. Finding him to be a hypocrite or even "ungrateful" too.

Theres definitely some deep, personal shit going on with them. Buggy was wary of BB when WB and Roger fought. Buggy isnt normally that cautious of anyone too? Although he was much younger back then ofc, just a child/teenager and no DF yet I think?

Monkey D. Garp - His son Dragon directly looks to overthrow the organization he works for and his grandson (who he also raised, seeing as how Luffy didn't even know he had a father) is also one of their biggest threats and aims to become Pirate King like his rival, Roger.
* Gol D. Roger - His son Portgas D. Ace completely rejected him and dedicated his life to making his pirate rival, Whitebeard, the Pirate King.
* Kaido - His son Yamato (born the same year as Momo btw) literally wants to be Kozuki Oden, the only person to ever scar him and someone he only shamefully defeated through trickery.
* Oden - While his son Momonosuke seeks to carry out his father’s will, by an ironic twist of fate he ate a Devil Fruit that turned him into a Dragon, the same form as the beast who killed his father. In fact, it was confirmed that Momo’s fruit is directly based off of Kaido’s.
* (Rocks D.) Shanks? - If what I believe to be true, Shanks is the son of Rocks D. Xebec, and was raised by his father’s rival Gol D. Roger, who he respects and reveres. Shanks seeks to stop Marshall D. Teach, the man who inherited his father’s evil will.
Yeah there is some distinct irony with Garp and Dragon there now you mention it lmao. Fits in thematically with what you just said be fore too. Shanks is lawful/dipomatic/honourable/selfless too, the exact opposite of Blackbeard and Xebec as well.

Those are some really good points and comparisons, damn. This feels canon now you mention it like this, now its all laid out like that. I like this a lot!
 
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. BB was probs the pirate that Shanks tried to warn the Gorosei about too, as he tried to warn WB and thus Ace too. The WG has been underestimating BB despite what he did to Marineford and WB in front of them too and what hes capable of now as well.
I do see things playing out as you said there.



Ah interesting, it does feel like they are setup for a rematch and that solidfies it then, seals it for sure.

Aye, the sins of the father theme that OP likes to talk about too, children arent guilty of their fathers sins unless they're born Kurozumis I guess /s.

BB might be jealous of Shanks for being Xebecs son if he is his son and thus be disgusted by Shanks attitude/actions and such. Finding him to be a hypocrite or even "ungrateful" too.

Theres definitely some deep, personal shit going on with them. Buggy was wary of BB when WB and Roger fought. Buggy isnt normally that cautious of anyone too? Although he was much younger back then ofc, just a child/teenager and no DF yet I think?



Yeah there is some distinct irony with Garp and Dragon there now you mention it lmao. Fits in thematically with what you just said be fore too. Shanks is lawful/dipomatic/honourable/selfless too, the exact opposite of Blackbeard and Xebec as well.

Those are some really good points and comparisons, damn. This feels canon now you mention it like this, now its all laid out like that. I like this a lot!
I was planning on making a thread for this :milaugh:
 
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