Questions & Mysteries Why did Luffy's fruit become relevant years after he became a famous pirate?
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Bc Imu is the fecking ruler of the entire world and does everything to be informed and eliminate potential threats (as seen during the Reverie).
You think that dude was chilling his nuts/her vag for 2+ years, not noticing anything about Luffy's powers etc. when he literally slapped it into the WGs face during Enies Lobby, Impel Down and Marineford?
You think that dude was chilling his nuts/her vag for 2+ years, not noticing anything about Luffy's powers etc. when he literally slapped it into the WGs face during Enies Lobby, Impel Down and Marineford?
Imo:
WG had the fruit, though it was just a regular devil fruit. Shanks stole it knowing it’s true name. Now years later that Luffy has almost reached its potential Shanks tells them that fruit’s true name.
the only weird thing here is Who’s who implying the WG already knew it was important since they imprisoned him. Maybe Im themselves order it and kept the information hidden from them until now. Not a coincidence Shanks and the WG meet now that Luffy is considered a big shot
WG had the fruit, though it was just a regular devil fruit. Shanks stole it knowing it’s true name. Now years later that Luffy has almost reached its potential Shanks tells them that fruit’s true name.
the only weird thing here is Who’s who implying the WG already knew it was important since they imprisoned him. Maybe Im themselves order it and kept the information hidden from them until now. Not a coincidence Shanks and the WG meet now that Luffy is considered a big shot
The only way everything can make sense is if the Gorosei does not know that GGnM and Joy Boy fruit are the same thing until recently.
Why wouldn't he? Dude even knows Vivi and Shirahoshi and the threat they posses. Ain't no way he wouldn't know Luffy and his fruit, especially given the striking resemblance b/w his strawhat and the one we saw at Im's place.
Why wouldn't he? Dude even knows Vivi and Shirahoshi and the threat they posses. Ain't no way he wouldn't know Luffy and his fruit, especially given the striking resemblance b/w his strawhat and the one we saw at Im's place.
That's pretty obvious. Luffy casually announced his powers every chance he got.
I think the main question is "how much" did the Gorosei know? Clearly they don't know everything since they don't know the awakened fruit they are talking about has a hidden name, or even the fact that it's mentioned that it's a "rumor" in 1041 (in relation to the reason they need to kill Luffy).
Someone definitely told them something, their concern about Luffy would have then started seemingly out of thin air. I'm not even fully convinced it is because they see Zunisha there. It just might be another example of Oda lore dumping at a random point out of context (i.e.CP-0 talking about momo's fruit before knowing he has it or WsW talking about him hating Shanks and relaying Sun God Nika (outside of the slavery comments, it was done to get us thinking about the character, that's what I'm talking about)
I think the main question is "how much" did the Gorosei know? Clearly they don't know everything since they don't know the awakened fruit they are talking about has a hidden name, or even the fact that it's mentioned that it's a "rumor" in 1041 (in relation to the reason they need to kill Luffy).
Someone definitely told them something, their concern about Luffy would have then started seemingly out of thin air. I'm not even fully convinced it is because they see Zunisha there. It just might be another example of Oda lore dumping at a random point out of context (i.e.CP-0 talking about momo's fruit before knowing he has it or WsW talking about him hating Shanks and relaying Sun God Nika (outside of the slavery comments, it was done to get us thinking about the character, that's what I'm talking about)
Because Shirahoshi is the mermaid princess. Robin found out immediately after reading the poneglyph her significance.
Imu would need to be told that Luffy had the gum gum fruit unless you think he’s omniscient. But again, who’s reporting that Luffy had that one specific fruit?
The world was in enough danger:
1. They were likely watching shanks and his crew to see if any of them had the fruit
2. They just found out about the son of Roger
Luffy has been hiding behind red herrings his entire life. Red Haired Shanks the last known possessor of this fruit and Ace the son of the previous pirate king.
The WG wouldn’t keep close notice of Luffy until Dressrosa because they had more worrisome things to worry about
Imu would need to be told that Luffy had the gum gum fruit unless you think he’s omniscient. But again, who’s reporting that Luffy had that one specific fruit?
The world was in enough danger:
1. They were likely watching shanks and his crew to see if any of them had the fruit
2. They just found out about the son of Roger
Luffy has been hiding behind red herrings his entire life. Red Haired Shanks the last known possessor of this fruit and Ace the son of the previous pirate king.
The WG wouldn’t keep close notice of Luffy until Dressrosa because they had more worrisome things to worry about
Imo, the WG KNEW the fruit was hidden, including Im, but none of them knew WHICH fruit it was hidden under. I believe this simple fact is something Shanks knew and told them. Thereby connecting Luffy's fruit with their knowledge of this hidden fruit.
That's all. WsW being imprisoned for this could have just been because the WG are unreasonable and they'd imprison their employees for that reason alone. They tried to kill CP-9 for failing their duties (arguably for a bigger failure), so WsW getting x amount of years for failing isn't surprising.
That's all. WsW being imprisoned for this could have just been because the WG are unreasonable and they'd imprison their employees for that reason alone. They tried to kill CP-9 for failing their duties (arguably for a bigger failure), so WsW getting x amount of years for failing isn't surprising.
Alarm bells should have been ringing at Luffy’s first bounty in East Blue among the powers that be in the Gorosei.
Firstly, they should be on the lookout for anyone called D. They run a World Government, they surely have the resources to have an office of CP0 or something just reading newspapers and bounties for a mention of anyone called D.
They were certainly aware of him by the aftermath of Alabasta, because we saw the Gorosei talk about him and say they could not ignore him. Which makes sense because
a) he‘s a D
b) he’s Garp’s grandson
c) he’s wearing a Strawhat.
And finding out his DF is easy. He’s fought hundreds upon hundreds of Marines. Simple interviews about the incidents he’s been involved in going from the lower Marines up should reveal that to them.
Oda has to somehow make the people who have run the majority of the world incompetent for them not to know. I can at least buy the idea that Imu sat in isolation in their castle not bothering about the outside world unless the info is specifically brought to them. But not for the Gorosei to be unaware.
Firstly, they should be on the lookout for anyone called D. They run a World Government, they surely have the resources to have an office of CP0 or something just reading newspapers and bounties for a mention of anyone called D.
They were certainly aware of him by the aftermath of Alabasta, because we saw the Gorosei talk about him and say they could not ignore him. Which makes sense because
a) he‘s a D
b) he’s Garp’s grandson
c) he’s wearing a Strawhat.
And finding out his DF is easy. He’s fought hundreds upon hundreds of Marines. Simple interviews about the incidents he’s been involved in going from the lower Marines up should reveal that to them.
Oda has to somehow make the people who have run the majority of the world incompetent for them not to know. I can at least buy the idea that Imu sat in isolation in their castle not bothering about the outside world unless the info is specifically brought to them. But not for the Gorosei to be unaware.
And how did Im learn who Shirahoshi is without anyone telling him? And how is he keeping track of Vivi of all people? It's pretty clear Im learns everything and keeps track of everything that might threaten his position. As I said earlier, there is no way Im didn't dig deeper after looking at his straw hat, which is featured in pretty much every bounty poster of his.