Break Week ZKK Wasn't a "Baseless" or "Delusional" Theory

I think Wano was a wake up call for many, Oda rushed many plot lines and characters for no reason. Oda has shown that he doesnt really care too much about anyone not named Luffy ( Or Shanks).
Exactly for me the worst part of it i think Loda knew all of the theories discussions about ZKK he used that to keep dead garbage arc alive
He is trying to pull the same crap in this arc with Kizaru but doubt too many people will fall for it
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Crafting theories based off of the information presented is what makes following a long term series fun.
Not if it threatens to make goofy bros insecure :suresure:
 
ZKK was valid and you can tell Oda played with the idea
It wasn't Valid

Just cause people believed so, it doesn't mean it was ever valid
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ZKK wasn't about Zoro defeating Kaido but Zoro killing him.

The expectation was that Luffy would overcome Kaido in combat and Zoro would slay Kaido afterwards.

Anyway, I'm not salty that ZKK didn't happen and don't really want to argue that it should have happened.

I'm mostly pushing back against the meme of using ZKK as a metaphor for wacky, harebrained theories that people are throwing around.
You're salty it didn't happen
If you weren't salty, you wouldn't make this copium thread
 
Exactly for me the worst part of it i think Loda knew all of the theories discussions about ZKK he used that to keep dead garbage arc alive
He is trying to pull the same crap in this arc with Kizaru but doubt too many people will fall for it
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Not if it threatens to make goofy bros insecure :suresure:
Making theories that luffy fandom dislikes is the most fun tbh
 
ZKK wasn't about Zoro defeating Kaido but Zoro killing him.

The expectation was that Luffy would overcome Kaido in combat and Zoro would slay Kaido afterwards.

Anyway, I'm not salty that ZKK didn't happen and don't really want to argue that it should have happened.

I'm mostly pushing back against the meme of using ZKK as a metaphor for wacky, harebrained theories that people are throwing around.
I think Zoro got a very raw deal in wano. Zkk not happening isn’t that much of a surprise, but nothing surfaced about his ancestry in the manga is.
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

warmth of the sun and the cool of the shade
There's a reason many Zoro fans considered Oda's handling of Zoro's character a disappointment. Powerscaling and the ZKK agenda aside, Oda just abandoned many of the threads he set up involving Zoro:
  • The second coming of Ryuma/Ryuma parallels in general
    • The comments that perhaps the legend of Ryuma slaying a dragon might be replicated
  • Kaido's statement that there would never be a monstrous samurai of the likes of Kozuki Oden again
  • Zoro saying he would round up the samurai
  • Zoro wanting to visit Ryuma's grave
    • The plot with Shusui in general, Ryuma said it was that sword's will that Zoro wield it, and then Oda just had it replaced and never gave Zoro any closure
  • Zoro's interest in the Nidai Kitetsu
  • Zoro's lineage
  • Zoro seeing the Grim Reaper/death
  • Zoro getting recognised as a hero
  • Etc.
All of this is still going to be addressed. Pluon is a huge plot point in One Piece, and Oden's dream of opening Wano's borders involves it. We just had Lucci and Kaku, known for kidnapping Robin over Pluton, reappear, and we're dealing with ancient science tech, now.

We just cut back to Wano, because, why? An earthquake ripped across the whole world due to Imu firing his flying death weapon.

That earthquake will free Big Mom and Kaido from their underground magma prison, either by draining the magma/lava through cracks in the earth, or cooling it with sea water, allowing them to rise forth once more.

There's no way the Straw Hats are going to be able to escape Kizaru and this fleet, even with their Sunny/Vegaforce combo idea. Kizaru can catch up with them. Hell, the Blackbeard Pirates haven't even revealed their hand, yet.

Egghead is Ohara mixed with Sabaody; an island being threatened by a massive military force for harboring information about the Void Century, with Luffy directly challening a Celestial Dragon. We think we're going one place, Fishmen Island, but, instead, big Kuma teleport.

Egghead ends with a mass S-Bear teleport, IMO. Not sure if everyone goes to the same place, but, Zoro will wind up in Wano, with Tashigi in tow, either through her showing up at Egghead and being teleported, or through the Marines invading Wano.

I'd also like Luffy to be there to fight Big Mom, but that will probably be saved for Elbaf, due to Linlin's ties to the Giant country.

:lumazed:

Everything you listed was being set up for Act 4:

Zoro will visit Ryuma's grave, get the Nidai Kitetsu

Zoro will round up the Samurai, and defend Wano's borders from the Marines and Pirates

Zoro will be recognized as Ryuma's descendant, and a new Sword God, a hero of Wano

And Zoro will uphold Ryuma's legacy by slaying Kaido over the Flower Capital

:zosmug:
 
All of this is still going to be addressed. Pluon is a huge plot point in One Piece, and Oden's dream of opening Wano's borders involves it. We just had Lucci and Kaku, known for kidnapping Robin over Pluton, reappear, and we're dealing with ancient science tech, now.

We just cut back to Wano, because, why? An earthquake ripped across the whole world due to Imu firing his flying death weapon.

That earthquake will free Big Mom and Kaido from their underground magma prison, either by draining the magma/lava through cracks in the earth, or cooling it with sea water, allowing them to rise forth once more.

There's no way the Straw Hats are going to be able to escape Kizaru and this fleet, even with their Sunny/Vegaforce combo idea. Kizaru can catch up with them. Hell, the Blackbeard Pirates haven't even revealed their hand, yet.

Egghead is Ohara mixed with Sabaody; an island being threatened by a massive military force for harboring information about the Void Century, with Luffy directly challening a Celestial Dragon. We think we're going one place, Fishmen Island, but, instead, big Kuma teleport.

Egghead ends with a mass S-Bear teleport, IMO. Not sure if everyone goes to the same place, but, Zoro will wind up in Wano, with Tashigi in tow, either through her showing up at Egghead and being teleported, or through the Marines invading Wano.

I'd also like Luffy to be there to fight Big Mom, but that will probably be saved for Elbaf, due to Linlin's ties to the Giant country.

:lumazed:

Everything you listed was being set up for Act 4:

Zoro will visit Ryuma's grave, get the Nidai Kitetsu

Zoro will round up the Samurai, and defend Wano's borders from the Marines and Pirates

Zoro will be recognized as Ryuma's descendant, and a new Sword God, a hero of Wano

And Zoro will uphold Ryuma's legacy by slaying Kaido over the Flower Capital

:zosmug:
I still hope we get sandai into a black blade my hope is after the slaying over the capital zoro leaves it on wano possibly returning it to tengu blackened or on ryuma grave by shusui forever symbolizing that just like ryuma this blade was used to slay a dragon "a legendary feat".

As we know zoro will replace a blade if it will make him stronger so at that point just like he did with shusui/enma he will leave sandi for the nidai as taming nidai will make him even stronger.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
ZKK

-turned FN Lucci from Oda's biggest dickrider to a Lee33 clone.
-turned Cinera from an essay connoisseur into a timid observer.
-turned HA001 from most active into a ghost.
-Gave Finalbeta a purpose in life other than WorstGen.

And much much more.

If that's not the greatest theory ever, I don't know what is.
 

Fujishiro

Cheese for everyone!
What cope? Are you gonna tell me the fact King is using an attack with a dragon form is a cope ? Or maybe Kaido using also a magma form at the end is a cope?
Or the fact Ryuma's anime adaptation has the title of "Dragon Damnation" ?

A compensation prize ? Exactly what I said. Oda made that because Zkk wasn't going to happen.
You said its already happened but it didnt.
 
You said its already happened but it didnt.
I said for Oda.
For Oda, Zoro cut a dragon above the capital. It doesn't matter if the dragon is real or made of magma for him.
The Ryuma's adaptation is the arc where he cut a dragon above the capital. Not before or after that, just that thing.

So I am asking you once again, why the adaptation has the title "103 Mercies Dragon Damnation" ?

Same as the final attack of Zoro ?

The theory "Zoro killing a dragon" was accurate and real. And for Oda, it was a parallel and it happened, simple as that.

But not for us the fans since no one could have guessed that Oda gonna use a shitty alternative, the real dragon was Kaido and not a dragon made of magma by King ....
 

Fujishiro

Cheese for everyone!
I said for Oda.
For Oda, Zoro cut a dragon above the capital. It doesn't matter if the dragon is real or made of magma for him.
The Ryuma's adaptation is the arc where he cut a dragon above the capital. Not before or after that, just that thing.

So I am asking you once again, why the adaptation has the title "103 Mercies Dragon Damnation" ?

Same as the final attack of Zoro ?

The theory "Zoro killing a dragon" was accurate and real. And for Oda, it was a parallel and it happened, simple as that.

But not for us the fans since no one could have guessed that Oda gonna use a shitty alternative, the real dragon was Kaido and not dragon made of magma by King ....
It didnt happen for Oda mate, he gave zoro fans a consolation prize because in his mind it didnt happen and was never going to happen.
 
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