Powers & Abilities Zoro's Conqueror's Haki is Different

How do characters gain stronger or weaker CoC?

  • By becoming stronger in their chosen fighting style

    Votes: 19 26.8%
  • They can't. They're born with a certain, unchangeable innate capacity to learn CoC.

    Votes: 20 28.2%
  • They display dedication to their dream (e.g. Zoro)

    Votes: 42 59.2%
  • They actually achieve their dream (e.g. Ryuma, Mihawk)

    Votes: 12 16.9%
  • By becoming more charismatic

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 7.0%

  • Total voters
    71
#82
I think the reason why Kaido was shocked at Zoro's display of coc is because he managed to coat coc into his Asura, which as he stated himself is something "only a handful of the very strongest" could use.

Luffy didn't know how to coat coc before getting hit by Kaido's thunder bagua, so in a sense it was a real shock for Kaido to see that Zoro not only had coc, but managed to be able to coat it. That was the true display of Zoro's potential imo. But at the time, he couldn't control it, which the fight against King led him to(control over coc-coating while taming Enma)
That’s exactly my point. Nothing Luffy’s done CoC wise is unexpected or even remarkable. Glaring at Kaido while unconscious? So what? He doesn’t care. 2+ years he’s had this ability and trained under another CoC user, yet Zoro unlocked CoC coating before he did. Hence why Zoro’s Haki aka willpower is superior to Luffy’s.

Zoro isn’t even a CoC specialist. His real strength is armament, yet his CoC showings are better than most of the yonko and certainly better than Luffy’s given that Zoro hasn’t even using it consciously. He’s just that innately talented at CoC.
 
#83
That’s exactly my point. Nothing Luffy’s done CoC wise is unexpected or even remarkable. Glaring at Kaido while unconscious? So what? He doesn’t care. 2+ years he’s had this ability and trained under another CoC user, yet Zoro unlocked CoC coating before he did. Hence why Zoro’s Haki aka willpower is superior to Luffy’s.

Zoro isn’t even a CoC specialist. His real strength is armament, yet his CoC showings are better than most of the yonko and certainly better than Luffy’s given that Zoro hasn’t even using it consciously. He’s just that innately talented at CoC.
Demonic Spirit isn't a decoration like fodder spirits :shocking:
 
#85
That’s exactly my point. Nothing Luffy’s done CoC wise is unexpected or even remarkable. Glaring at Kaido while unconscious? So what? He doesn’t care. 2+ years he’s had this ability and trained under another CoC user, yet Zoro unlocked CoC coating before he did. Hence why Zoro’s Haki aka willpower is superior to Luffy’s.

Zoro isn’t even a CoC specialist. His real strength is armament, yet his CoC showings are better than most of the yonko and certainly better than Luffy’s given that Zoro hasn’t even using it consciously. He’s just that innately talented at CoC.
Splitting the sky isn't remarkable considering only Yonko's have done it?

But coating your weapons in CoC is remarkable when characters like Yamato have done it okay......

Come back when Zoro can actually use AdvCoC without holding Enma.
 

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#87
Splitting the sky isn't remarkable considering only Yonko's have done it?

But coating your weapons in CoC is remarkable when characters like Yamato have done it okay......

Come back when Zoro can actually use AdvCoC without holding Enma.
You gonna waste energy here

They always do this : downplay CoC and adcoc, donwplay fs , downplay other feats
When zoro will split the sky then they will hype that feat crazily.
 
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#89
Deluded.

When Luffy can scar with what blunt fists are you stupid?

When Zoro can actually knock Kaido down then I'll give that Zoro can actually give Luffy a mid diff fight.

Oda specifically said Luffy out of the 3 specialises in CoC so is ahead of Zoro who can't even do it without holding Enma.

:kobeha:
Are you dumb or what ?
Akainu scarred luffy with fist

Luffy theoretically have red roc that can but until we see that he can , we give him the doubt
 
#90
I think Zoro has had CoC all along and displayed it as early as East Blue against Mihawk. But none of the characters there, except Mihawk and perhaps Zeff, could recognize it. This sweat pearl on Mihawk indicates to me that Zoro unconsciously was using CoC while performing his final attack, not that Mihawk was impressed or scared by the attack. Thus Mihawk decided to spare him.



Mihawk also remarks upon Zoros incredible will, in other words his haki/ambition. And this was back when his skill level was closer to Johnny and Yosaku than Daz Bones.

 
#95
@Den_Den_Mushi
Nice post mate

I'll be my usual tyrant though, one reason Luffy or others haven't shown this type of CoC before might just be because Oda just made it up recently xD
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Controversial? Not really, once you look at the evidence.
Agreed. Luffy keeps harping on wanting to become pirate king, but take very few actual thought out steps to how to achieve it

Our good buddy drizzt put it best in his vid
 

Sanji D Goat

𝔓𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔰𝔰
#97
Rayleigh stated that CoC is the embodiment of the willpower of the user itself. The stronger your willpower, the stronger your conqueror's haki gets.

@Kiiro make a good point here. The reason why Zoro suddenly unlocked Adv CoC in such a short amount of time is because he finally embraces his dream of WSS and doesn't talk about Luffy's PK dream all the time. And during his flashback with Kozaburo, he finally understand the concepts of the way of the swords and thus he was able to tamed Enma fully. While I don't necessary agree that Zoro's willpower is greater than Luffy's, it's undeniable that both are in the same caliber.
 
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