Future Events Zoro is still going to fight King

#41
And current Robin.....:josad:
Beast pirates disguise Robin is top tier though :goyea::pepelit:
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Is it confirmed that King uses his fire to fight? I haven’t seen him use one fire based attack and now all of a sudden Zoro beats King because he has fire on his back lol. I do wish all the worst gen had fights before reaching the roof but it is what it :/
 
#42
I’m expecting Oda to do one of two things with Sanji and the RS
-have Queen able to temporarily disable it due to his knowledge of Judge, or more likely
-have Black Maria steal it, so Robin has to beat her and get it to Sanji, a la the need to beat CP9 to get the keys to Zoro/Usopp/Robin’s handcuffs.

Either way, I don’t think Sanji is swanning into the fight with Queen, armed with RS, Queen’s various plague completely neutralised from the beginning. I do very much expect to see base Sanji vs Queen, at least for a bit, with the RS being the thing that turns the tides, when he can finally use it.

We also notably don’t actually know that the RS can even deal with Queen’s plagues- we only expect it. It’s never actually been said in series that the RS can block infectious diseases- it being durable and fire resistant is what was hyped up. Does Queen, with his knowledge of the Vinsmokes, have a way to deal with raid suits? Who knows, but it certainly can’t be ruled out.

We have actually seen, three times in two chapters, Zoro being totally comfortable dealing with the fire of two characters vastly stronger than King. Zoro would have to be completely without his swords for a fight with King where King’s fire could actually play any role. He’d be as well being called King the Tornado or something in that situation, because his fire is irrelevant.

Unless Oda makes King’s magic fire different from BM and Kaido’s magic fire, there’s very little reason to see Zoro fight it. And I’m not really seeing a situation where we have Zoro cutting BM and Kaido’s fire, King having somehow better fire that Zoro can’t cut, and him then needing to learn mid fight to cut a different kind of fire. That’s just... kinda dumb.
I only expect that the RS can block the bullets and thus prevent the Plague from being injected into the body. There's much precedence for that with the Raid Suits being used for that purpose through WCI.

I guess a fitting aspect of Wildfire would be fast spreading and surrounding the target ? We've seen Zoro using the technique to cut fire in one direction to deal with a beam type attack and a sentient fire ball.

Also would Zoro need to make sacrifices in order to constantly use the fire cutting technique ? If King uses a variety of Swordsmanship techniques imbued by fire, does Zoro have to choose between using the fire cutting technique against them, or can he still use his other moves and make it so that those moves cut fire ?
 

Cinera

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#43
The only, only way Zoro vs King can believably happen is if King takes the initiative to go after Zoro himself.

This chapter gave us something to work with. King could notice his captain’s in danger if he lets the green haired swordsman continue to attack him.

But even then, Marco is preventing him from going anywhere. Do you believe King can Marco quick enough to get to Zoro?
If King can dispose of Marco quickly enough, it would actually restore some excitement for the Zoro vs King fight (King is currently the underdog vs Zoro, but defeating/getting past Marco changes that).

In such a fight, Zoro would want to defeat King quickly to get back to facing Kaido though. It will have the same urgency and impatience Zoro had in the dance hall. The readers would view such a fight as an afterthought/sideshow. Even while the fight is ongoing, the main deal would be getting back to Kaido.

It can be executed, but it seems like a waste of King's character.


Is it confirmed that King uses his fire to fight? I haven’t seen him use one fire based attack and now all of a sudden Zoro beats King because he has fire on his back lol. I do wish all the worst gen had fights before reaching the roof but it is what it :/
King's epithet is "The Wildfire". We believe that Zoro is stronger because:
  • He can completely neutralise King's fire abilities.
  • As a swordsman, Zoro is superior.
    • In the latest chapter he demonstrated offensive ability that terrified two top tiers.
 
#44
If King can dispose of Marco quickly enough, it would actually restore some excitement for the Zoro vs King fight (King is currently the underdog vs Zoro, but defeating/getting past Marco changes that).

In such a fight, Zoro would want to defeat King quickly to get back to facing Kaido though. It will have the same urgency and impatience Zoro had in the dance hall. The readers would view such a fight as an afterthought/sideshow. Even while the fight is ongoing, the main deal would be getting back to Kaido.

It can be executed, but it seems like a waste of King's character.



King's epithet is "The Wildfire". We believe that Zoro is stronger because:
  • He can completely neutralise King's fire abilities.
  • As a swordsman, Zoro is superior.
    • In the latest chapter he demonstrated offensive ability that terrified two top tiers.
We haven’t even seen King fight with his sword....but based of Jacks epithet it has nothing to do with his abilities but more how he left the battlefield, I’m not doubting he has fire abilities just that we haven’t seen him use any and do know how he uses it
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
#45
If King can dispose of Marco quickly enough, it would actually restore some excitement for the Zoro vs King fight (King is currently the underdog vs Zoro, but defeating/getting past Marco changes that).
Yes, but I find that implausible at the moment. Oda's given me no reason to believe King can even defeat Marco, let alone dispose of him quickly.
 
#46
The only, only way Zoro vs King can believably happen is if King takes the initiative to go after Zoro himself.

This chapter gave us something to work with. King could notice his captain’s in danger if he lets the green haired swordsman continue to attack him.

But even then, Marco is preventing him from going anywhere. Do you believe King can Marco quick enough to get to Zoro?
If King's Fire can counter Marco's regen then why wouldn't he be able to defeat Marco quickly?
 
#50
I mean it does make sense. Luffy went through tons of tough fights to get to the he's at right now, and Sanji was given the Raid Suit to be boosted to the next level.

Oda had to make Zoro stronger somehow, and Enma was the key to that. But Oda couldn't just have Zoro cut up a bunch of trees, and call it a day. The best option was to put him in the fight up at the rooftop to complete his training, as Haki only blooms in extreme circumstances. Once this fight fails, (and it will) when the next round of fights start to take place, Zoro will be ready to take on King by himself.
 
#55
Really there’s nothing King does that Big Mom can’t do better. Want Zoro to have a fight with a flying fire using swordsman?



Don’t need to reshuffle the deck, there’s one already in front of him.

All King provides is the potential for a one vs one victory, which isn’t up for grabs. But that’s also not an option for Luffy, Kid, Law or Killer anymore either. Nobodies calling for them to go back down that damned tower after all the time we had to wait for them to get up it in the first place, finish off Queen, Jack, Apoo and Hawkins, only to then hop back up again.
 
#58
I think people are underestimating King as being only fire, the guy could still be a legitimate opponent to Zoro.
The issue is that it would be undewhelming to have Zoro go back after being involved in a fight against two Yonkos.
So really it all depends on how Oda handles the story and setup for it.
 
J

Jo_Ndule

#59
It's obvious zoro , Killer, sanji will all fight YCs later on in act 4

This is Zoro's chance to reopen the scar coz Oda won't have underlings face Kaido again in the final round or finale in act 4.

Law Luffy vs doffy
Luffy vs katakuri
Kidd law Luffy vs kaido

This raid was never the main finale.
 
#60
I mean it does make sense. Luffy went through tons of tough fights to get to the he's at right now, and Sanji was given the Raid Suit to be boosted to the next level.

Oda had to make Zoro stronger somehow, and Enma was the key to that. But Oda couldn't just have Zoro cut up a bunch of trees, and call it a day. The best option was to put him in the fight up at the rooftop to complete his training, as Haki only blooms in extreme circumstances. Once this fight fails, (and it will) when the next round of fights start to take place, Zoro will be ready to take on King by himself.
:milaugh:
 
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