Future Events The Great Debate - Will Zoro kill Kaido this arc?

After reading 1002 chapters, what you think zoro will do against kaido?


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It’s not really semantics but ok.

No, it being irrelevant is not just down to me, it’s down to the story. It doesn’t matter if he has a sword that is connected to Kaido, he can’t do anything to Kaido if he isn’t strong enough.

The story is to say that Zoro won’t be able to damage Kaido, because he isn’t strong enough regardless of the sword. Luffy is learning an beyond advanced form of CoA to get under Kaido’s scales. It doesn’t matter if Zoro has a sword that cut Kaido, because the man that cut Kaido was likely able to use that beyond-advanced form. He was stronger than Zoro. Zoro simply having the sword doesn’t mean anything if he isn’t strong enough.
The story literally states the relevance that it is the sword which wounded Kaido.
But you are claiming it is irrelevant which contradicts the manga.

Basing such irrelevance on the perceived strength of Zoro is again just your opinion.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
The story literally states the relevance that it is the sword which wounded Kaido.
But you are claiming it is irrelevant which contradicts the manga.
Basing such irrelevance on the perceived strength of Zoro is again just your opinion.
OEKaneki: Zoro is too weak to take on Kaido
Manga: Everyone in the alliance is too weak to take on Kaido
OEKaneki: No, no. Zoro is too weak
:myman:
 
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Inspector_Mu

Zoro will get his Doflamingo/Cracker in the form of Kyoshiro, and then his Katakuri in the form of King.

He'll be Luffy's inferior, but he won't be far behind.
Lol so how many 1 vs 1 will he have?
Killer
Kyoushiro
King

3? Lol even Luffy didnt get 3 battles
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His cracker was nerfed killer, his katakuri is Kyoushiro
 
Lol so how many 1 vs 1 will he have?
Killer
Kyoushiro
King

3? Lol even Luffy didnt get 3 battles
5
+ Kidd
+ Kaido
At this rate every character starts with K will be Zoro's opponent

Imagine Zoro from beating Pica with Orlombus' help, and fainting each other against nerfed Killer

now will solo YC3 Kyoshiro, then still continue to solo YC1 King which is ~ Marco / Mihawk level, then continues to battle Kaido and landing the last, killing hit on the Yonko lol
Wake up please
 
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Inspector_Mu

5
+ Kidd
+ Kaido
At this rate every character starts with K will be Zoro's opponent

Imagine Zoro from beating Pica with Orlombus' help, and fainting each other against nerfed Killer

now will solo YC3 Kyoshiro, then still continue to solo YC1 King which is ~ Marco / Mihawk level, then continues to battle Kaido and landing the last, killing hit on the Yonko lol
Wake up please
They think zoro is gonna be privileged like luffy to beat 2 commander tier in one arc
 
The story literally states the relevance that it is the sword which wounded Kaido.
But you are claiming it is irrelevant which contradicts the manga.

Basing such irrelevance on the perceived strength of Zoro is again just your opinion.
I’m not claiming it is irrelevant, I’m saying that it’s irrelevant in Zoro’s hands. It’s not my opinion to say that Zoro is too weak to to be able to do anything to Kaido, it’s an actual fact and it was demonstrated when Luffy himself, who is much stronger than Zoro, failed to scratch Kaido in G4. That’s not an opinion.
OEKaneki: Zoro is too weak to take on Kaido
Manga: Everyone in the alliance is too weak to take on Kaido
OEKaneki: No, no. Zoro is too weak
:myman:
Actually no, everyone in the alliance isn’t too weak to face Kaido, or at least won’t be. Luffy is working on that at the moment.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I’m not claiming it is irrelevant, I’m saying that it’s irrelevant in Zoro’s hands. It’s not my opinion to say that Zoro is too weak to to be able to do anything to Kaido, it’s an actual fact and it was demonstrated when Luffy himself, who is much stronger than Zoro, failed to scratch Kaido in G4. That’s not an opinion.

Actually no, everyone in the alliance isn’t too weak to face Kaido, or at least won’t be. Luffy is working on that at the moment.
Thats just the level of coa not actual strength though. We dont know what level of coa zoro has. We know it was better than luffys and has used the primary form of ryou thus far
 
I guess Sanji will beat the WSS by dreaming of all blue. :milaugh:
He be his Shanks to his Mihawk. Didn't mean mean like that. He trains on his own time and get strong just as Zoro. Oda like them as they are with their rivalry, so doubt they let the other surpassed each other. Though hey, whatever convince your 'Zoro Logic' if this Zoro be above a Yonko in one arc with less time to train for that lol :gokulaugh:.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
He be his Shanks to his Mihawk. Didn't mean mean like that. He trains on his own time and get strong just as Zoro. Oda like them as they are with their rivalry, so doubt they let the other surpassed each other. Though hey, whatever convince your 'Zoro Logic' if this Zoro be above a Yonko in one arc with less time to train for that lol :gokulaugh:.
They are not equals at all. Zoros training with mihawk left sanji behind which is why oda gave him the rs.
 
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Now to you disagreeing with "Zoro slaying Luffy's opponent that also happens to be WSC" while he is been getting matched by below Calamity level opponents that Kaidou can easily one shot is Downplaying??

Instead of imagining the conspiracies against your fav character and blaming fandoms why not rationally consider the difference that exists btween em and realise that this has like impossible odds to begin with. You would have to be very extreme fan to not realise this.
He has Zoro picture as his avatar, he is definition of extreme fanboyism lol.
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They are not equals at all. Zoros training with mihawk left sanji behind which is why oda gave him the rs.
Sanji can fight with him even without RS. He doesn't rely on it as power boost. His power is still his own. It's the skill of a person, not the equipment. Which is why he wants Usopp and Franky to modify it to get rid of Germa stuff.

Nothing shows Zoro is above there especially his past fight with Hawkins, Kyoshiro, Killer, and Gyaki said otherwise as he look badly on each of them. Just your 'Zoro-Brain' that can't see that and get lost when told the truth on something ;).
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All I’m gonna say is any of y’all that think Zoro isn’t gonna hurt Kaidou are 100% gonna have egg on ur faces. If Oden’s abilities were the sole reason why Kaidou got that scar Oda would’ve attributed the feat of hurting Kaidou to Oden’s abilities & not ‘Enma’ specifically. Moreover Oden wields dual blades, yet ‘Enma’ was given the credit for scaring Kaidou and not both of his blades. Of course Oden would’ve had to be very skilled to perform a feat like that with Enma (assuming he was even the one that did it). Also why introduce a blade that is capable of hurting Kaidou into the story & give it to Zoro if it’s gonna end up doing fck all to him?
Taking on top tier we can see, but not going to defeat Kaido or lend a major hit that gives Luffy a win on. It wouldn't feel deserving for Luffy if it was thanks to swords or even Zoro. He is the one to claim his head, no one else. Plus that also means Zoro will need to surpassed or equal someone on Roger's crew who was close to Yonko lvl if he could damage Kaido. That be too farfetch especially Zoro to progress that quickly within one arc. Look in his past fights in Wano doesn't also help us see he 'will do it'. Also Luffy been stronger one of crew and doesn't help image if his first mate surpass him or is major fact how he defeat Kaido. Doesn't make sense in the long run.

Plus Oda isn't one to use something that will get job done. Remember's Bege's plan on how he will take out Big Mom? It backfired hard as it didn't go as plan and failed. Just because we are introduce to a 'seemingly' solution to beat a Yonko, doesn't mean it will work. Oda is unpredictable so we should count this as a way for same if all it needs is a sword and Zoro using it, but who isn't even Oden's lvl. Oda knows power lvl dyanmic and wouldn't force a push that big and fast on character like that.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
It’s both. Zoro is not strong enough overall, and no, he doesn’t have stronger CoA than Luffy. He’s never had stronger CoA than Luffy.
Lol stfu like hody or bellamy could break zoros coa and dont even try zoros physical strength he pushed back a dragon bigger than oars
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He has Zoro picture as his avatar, je is definition of extreme fanboyism lol.
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Sanji can fight with him even without RS. He doesn't rely on it as power boost. His power is still his own. It's the skill of a person, not the equipment. Which is why he wants Usopp and Franky to modify it to get rid of Germa stuff.

Nothing shows Zoro is above there especially his past fight with Hawkins, Kyoshiro, Killer, and Gyaki said otherwise as he look badly on each of them. Just your 'Zoro-Brain' that can't see that and get lost when told the truth on something ;).
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Taking on top tier we can see, but not going to defeat Kaido or lend a major hit that gives Luffy a win on. It wouldn't feel deserving for Luffy if it was thanks to swords or even Zoro. He is the one to claim his head, no one else. Plus that also means Zoro will need to surpassed or equal someone on Roger's crew who was close to Yonko lvl if he could damage Kaido. That be too farfetch especially Zoro to progress that quickly within one arc. Look in his past fights in Wano doesn't also help us see he 'will do it'. Also Luffy been stronger one of crew and doesn't help image if his first mate surpass him or is major fact how he defeat Kaido. Doesn't make sense in the long run.

Plus Oda isn't one to use something that will get job done. Remember's Bege's plan on how he will take out Big Mom? It backfired hard as it didn't go as plan and failed. Just because we are introduce to a 'seemingly' solution to beat a Yonko, doesn't mean it will work. Oda is unpredictable so we should count this as a way for same if all it needs is a sword and Zoro using it, but who isn't even Oden's lvl. Oda knows power lvl dyanmic and wouldn't force a push that big and fast on character like that.
No youre just a hater trying to grab whatever you can,
vs hawkins took 3/4 out of 10 lives in minutes with just 2 swords, despite trying to escape to get tama to safety AND hawkins using his stronger cards for a 2 v 1 vs luffy and zoro
vs killer who ONLY got a hit because of interference and was that much weaker with all his strength couldnt pull a scythe out of zoro who flexed on him and got one hit kod
Gyukimaru lol, zoro was sat on top of him with a sword to his throat after easily overpowering him.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Luffy and Zoro weren't strong enough to defeat Lucci and Kaku before enies yet they did.

So the argument that Zoro isn't strong enough to go against Kaido doesn't hold much of a merit when there is enough evidence manga is putting up in this regard.

Also, none of the WG is strong enough to take on Kaido anyway. Yet, we know Kaido is falling in wano for sure. Yet, we know that the only scar Kaido ever got was not from other Yonkou but from Enma which is with Zoro now.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Though hey, whatever convince your 'Zoro Logic' if this Zoro be above a Yonko in one arc with less time to train for that lol :gokulaugh:.
The only one with such logic is you. Literally havent seen anyone else saying Zoro above Yonko. :myman:
Actually no, everyone in the alliance isn’t too weak to face Kaido, or at least won’t be. Luffy is working on that at the moment.
As if WSC would be down permanently because of Luffy, just because he is working on it. :feelsokeman:
 
The only one with such logic is you. Literally havent seen anyone else saying Zoro above Yonko. :myman:

As if WSC would be down permanently because of Luffy, just because he is working on it. :feelsokeman:
Others are saying on forum right now. You guys think he plays major role to damage so much it he reason how Luffy can finish him. Which is impossible for him to succeed like that in any forms.
 
No, he won't . And for the simplest of reasons. Oda will not draw a SH killing someone on panel.
Mad props to Oda if he does that though..I am not against SHs finally killing someone.

But ,Zoro shouldn't be involved in the slightest in the Kaidou fight to be honest in my opinion.

This is Luffy's biggest and hardest hurdle until his fight with BB for the PK tittle .
Zoro shouldn't be anywhere near their fight. It is a no go for me ,especially Zoro doing fatal damage to Kaidou.
This is the fight that will elevate Luffy to the "great pirate " status,he shouldn't have huge help from one of his subordinates.
 
Lol stfu like hody or bellamy could break zoros coa and dont even try zoros physical strength he pushed back a dragon bigger than oars
Zoro got ran through by a simple stab attack in this arc and passed out. Stop it. It makes zero sense that Zoro would have better CoA than Luffy, in the same way that it makes zero sense for Sanji to have stronger CoO than Luffy.
Luffy and Zoro weren't strong enough to defeat Lucci and Kaku before enies yet they did.

So the argument that Zoro isn't strong enough to go against Kaido doesn't hold much of a merit when there is enough evidence manga is putting up in this regard.

Also, none of the WG is strong enough to take on Kaido anyway. Yet, we know Kaido is falling in wano for sure. Yet, we know that the only scar Kaido ever got was not from other Yonkou but from Enma which is with Zoro now.
Actually it does have merit on the account that Lucci and Kaku are not Kaido. And it’s interesting that you bring up Lucci and Kaku, given that Lucci was stated to be far stronger than Kaku and when asked if they should get involved against Lucci, Zoro said he wanted no part of that action.

Regarding other manga evidence, there is plenty. Luffy went from fighting Doflamingo to Cracker to Katakuri over the course of several arcs and then got destroyed by Kaido in one shot. Zoro’s fanboys want him to go straight from fighting Pica to fighting Kaido with zero progression in between. Zoro has also never finished Luffy’s enemy, besides Morgan all the way at the beginning. Zoro has never taken part in a fight against Luffy’s main enemy except Enel, and he got destroyed. Hell, the predominant theme in the manga is that Luffy fights and beats the enemies that only Luffy can fight and beat.

Sword or no sword, Zoro is not strong enough to lay a scratch on Kaido when even Luffy couldn’t at the start of the arc (and Luffy was far stronger then than Zoro is now), and then there’s the fact that this is Luffy’s enemy, which Zoro has zero relation to other than him being handed someone else’s sword.
The only one with such logic is you. Literally havent seen anyone else saying Zoro above Yonko. :myman:

As if WSC would be down permanently because of Luffy, just because he is working on it. :feelsokeman:
When Zoro fanboys pretend that Kaido needs to go “down permanently” as a basis for their argument when no enemy that Luffy has ever fought, nor Zoro for that matter, has ever “gone down permanently”.
 
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