Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1021 Spoilers Discussion

[Finalbeta]

The ZKK theory is not Zoro vs Kaido Round 2. They are not related. When you guys understand the difference then I'll have a proper conversation with you.

Marco mentioned fighting Kaido already back in Chapter 999, this was after he threw Zoro to the roof. He has been stuck on the performance floor helping. That's it. Nothing is even suggesting he will fight King for the remainder of the arc.

It's not about what "services" Zoro. It's about what "services" the story. You guys don't pay attention to dialogue. Zoro said to leave Kaido to Luffy already lol. The story has only told you guys a 100 times already that Luffy will beat Kaido.

It's quite simple, really.

By the time Zoro is done with Kaido the odds King will still be around and at the same time Zoro will take him on are about as tiny as a bacteria.

 

[Hiragaro]

Thats Oda's casual inconsistency, nothing new, imo the reasons for that is: Sanji couldn't do that cuz he was either afraid of hurting some of them, or because it would be useless anyway, he would get caught again and wouldn't be able to do shit but get caught again and again.

I mean, he tried to leave and defeated all the men around there while avoiding female, him getting caught again was most likely because it was too hard for him to properly escape without acting offensively towards females, all of that for the sake of him calling Robin's help.

Imagine dodging a barrage of laser beams from a 1,32bil. Berry guy while smiling, but appereantly not able to dodge BM and her webs...shit makes no sense. Sanji is clearly out of the Toppi Robbos league, but because she is a woman, Sanji can't even dodge her attacks now? Or burn the web? He freed himself before too...
Oda is inconsistent af it's annoying...

 

[Paperchampion23]

It's quite simple, really.

By the time Zoro is done with Kaido the odds King will still be around are about as tiny as a bacteria.

You comment literally does not make a lick of sense lol

I'm saying Zoro fights King. That's it. This has nothing to do with Kaido

 

[Finalbeta]

no bad news at all, bounties are not strength, it's you guys who try to push that idea since you know that by portrayal queen can't hold a candle so you try to rely on bounties instead

Bounties are the tool of the loser when they happen to attempt to describe power levels accurately.

 

[kenedyfake]

Ulti and Who's Who >>> Tobiroppo who didn't show basic haki

 

[ConquistadoR]

Marco mentioned fighting Kaido already back in Chapter 999, this was after he threw Zoro to the roof. He has been stuck on the performance floor helping. That's it. Nothing is even suggesting he will fight King for the remainder of the arc.

the problem i have with the momotaro theory is if that happens oda effectively shits on all the buildup in act 1&2 for two characters introduced very late in act 3 to fight kaido.

 

[Finalbeta]

Theres a level among sanji fans which zoro fans didnt have because mostly are idiots.

but who TF accepted the theory that king is as strong or stronger than bigmom?

Are u among zoro fans that accept it?

Who claimed that?

 

[IIskandar1997]

Ulti and Who's Who >>> Tobiroppo who didn't show basic haki

Franky, Nami, Robin and Brook are proof that haki is overrated

 

[nik87]

Really, Captain Morgan?



And he already has. Does Luffy use Swords? How can he scar people?

And if you are talking about Hakai, Zoro has the highest durability/pain tolerance in the crew, we know this. We've known this since Thriller Bark where he took all of Luffys pain. We've known this since most of his fights end with him losing a stupid amount of blood, moreso than any other fight lol

And yet, that doesn't make him stronger. Stop pandering bruh. Zoro isn't the MC, Luffy is.

Lol are you seriously trying to compare Luffy with Zoro? He beats him in every single stat, not even a debate.
Luffy is the MC, Zoro is stronger, by a lot.

Yes, Morgan. How comes Zoro has beaten the boss instead of Luffy? He outperformed Zoro? By getting KOed 3 times? Who said anything about scarring?

It's fascinating that you still dont get it, just how much of a strength difference there is between Zoro and basically anyone else... It's gonna be interesting when it's Zoro time again.

 

[duckman]

Ulti and Who's Who >>> Tobiroppo who didn't show basic haki

Don't you get what Oda is showing you? Not everyone uses Haki and Haki isn't the be all and end all. Many people use their DFs and prefer that instead.

But nah, you all want black ink splashes like this is bleach

 

[Hiragaro]

Ulti and Who's Who >>> Tobiroppo who didn't show basic haki

The fanbase arguments about how are they gonna beat the TB if they don't even have haki while the TB surely have it.
Oda: I am just not gonna let them use Haki.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

the problem i have with the momotaro theory is if that happens oda effectively shits on all the buildup in act 1&2 for two characters introduced very late in act 3 to fight kaido.

Zoro and Sanji will take their places first then we'll get Straw Hats vs Kaido for ten minutes until Luffy regains his haki after a new gear 4/gear 5. Marco and Yamato shouldn't be around for the Kaidos end.

 

[Adam-san]

Really, Captain Morgan?



And he already has. Does Luffy use Swords? How can he scar people?

And if you are talking about Hakai, Zoro has the highest durability/pain tolerance in the crew, we know this. We've known this since Thriller Bark where he took all of Luffys pain. We've known this since most of his fights end with him losing a stupid amount of blood, moreso than any other fight lol

And yet, that doesn't make him stronger. Stop pandering bruh. Zoro isn't the MC, Luffy is.

Don't even bother man these zoro fans are delusional. Just wait till the end of wano hopefully they'll have calmed down.

 

[ConquistadoR]

regardless of whether the other tobiroppo use haki or not, ulti and whos who are the strongest.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

regardless of whether the other tobiroppo use haki or not, ulti and whos who are the strongest.

No denying this but I don’t think the gap is that big. Like
Ulti 100
Whos who 99
Sasaki 98
Page One 97
Black Maria 96

 

[Alpha]

regardless of whether the other tobiroppo use haki or not, ulti and whos who are the strongest.

Dont know whats going on here BUT i agree with this.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Zoro and Sanji will take their places first then we'll get Straw Hats vs Kaido for ten minutes until Luffy regains his haki after a new gear 4/gear 5. Marco and Yamato shouldn't be around for the Kaidos end.

i personally dont think sanji has any business on the rooftop.

id prefer a luffy - yamato duo or luffy yamato zoro trio or even luffy 1v1 kaido. sanji has had much less portrayal this arc than luffy and zoro.

 

[Adam-san]

Pov: It is 2025 and zoro stans are saying zoro will kill blackbeard because he uses 3 swords and he'll cut down blackbeards 3 personalitiesprobably gonna happen. u never know with these zoro stans.

 

[Julius]

Imagine dodging a barrage of laser beams from a 1,32bil. Berry guy while smiling, but appereantly not able to dodge BM and her webs...shit makes no sense. Sanji is clearly out of the Toppi Robbos league, but because she is a woman, Sanji can't even dodge her attacks now? Or burn the web? He freed himself before too...
Oda is inconsistent af it's annoying...

Yeah, so i made these assumptions, like Sanji tried to escape but there wasn't another way besides going agressive, and obviously he isn't doing this.
I just hope that the next time Sanji ends up in a situation like that it ends up making more sense, otherwise it will be just boring, completely repetitive and redundant

 

[Sir Yasheen]

i personally dont think sanji has any business on the rooftop.

id prefer a luffy - yamato duo or luffy yamato zoro trio or even luffy 1v1 kaido. sanji has had much less portrayal this arc than luffy and zoro.

I mean Sanji is the straw hat who bonded with Kinemon and Momo the most after Luffy so I think he has some business up there especially with Momo heading back up there.