Future Events Sanji's next opponents

#61
Why do people think of all admiral, sanji is going to fight greenbull?
Am i missing something?
Ryokugyus introduction mentioned three things:
1. A connection to Vegapunk - Something that has become roped into Sanjis backstory
2. A lack of respect for food - Considers eating a chore
3. A love for beautiful women - Wants to be served by a woman. Only way to make eating worth it.

Not to mention Sanjis epithet “Black Leg” is a disease that is a known killer of Bulls and other cattle.
 
#62
True, same goes for Zoro. He is going after the WSS, not his inferior rival Shanks.:finally:
Shanks dueling with Mihawk has nothing to do with vying for the WSS spot. We know this already. One became a Yonko, the other is the WSS. The goals were not the same and if Shanks is Luffy's last opponent, being a swordsman frankly does not matter (to Luffy).
 
#64
Surprisingly, he appears to be a cook aswell, Fujitora thanked him for the food and said it was delicious

I wonder about this line because the next line is Fuji telling Ryo to try the food here because it’d very tasty. I figured this was him just appreciating the food here in mariejoa not necessarily Ryokugyu cooked it
 
#66
I figured this was him just appreciating the food here in mariejoa not necessarily Ryokugyu cooked it
I had this doubt too, but makes no sense for Fujitora to thank him for the food


But it could be either:

-Fujitora thanked GB and praised the food cuz he was the one who cooked it

or

-Fujitora already knew GB was fasting to begin with, so he told him to try eating the food at Mariejoa because it was decent food, GB didn't cooked anything in this case.

My theory is that Greenbull's powers have something to do with him turning into a cook (maybe he perfoms photosynthesis?), thats why he fasts for so long, consequently these powers made him look for good food throughout his life, so that would light up his interest at eating again, forcing him to be an awesome cook looking for food good enough for him to eat.

It's like the opposite of what Sanji stands for, Sanji feeds the hungry, Sanji himself fasted for several days alongside Zeff, Sanji even missed eating rotten food after that event, he ate Cosette's food from the floor and praised it, on the other hand Greenbull chooses to fast by himself, even if there is pretty good right in front of him.

Greenbull is someone that would just be pleased by the cake Sanji baked to Big Mom, know what im saying?

Their fight could even end with Sanji making a dish for GB while he is on the ground basically defeated, Sanji feeds him and GB looks amazed by how good it is.
 
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#67
I wonder about this line because the next line is Fuji telling Ryo to try the food here because it’d very tasty. I figured this was him just appreciating the food here in mariejoa not necessarily Ryokugyu cooked it
Yeah idk if it's that he's a chef, cause next line Fuji asks him to try "the food here, it's really tasty".

But I think it still points to him being a Sanji opponent, primarily because of the next words he says about not eating and pretty women. Oda loves his parallels.


Tbh I think Kizaru and Akainu will be Luffy opponents. Fuji will be Zoro's. Kizaru might even be the main villain if a Vegapunk centric plotline comes along.
 
#68
Yeah idk if it's that he's a chef, cause next line Fuji asks him to try "the food here, it's really tasty".

But I think it still points to him being a Sanji opponent, primarily because of the next words he says about not eating and pretty women. Oda loves his parallels.


Tbh I think Kizaru and Akainu will be Luffy opponents. Fuji will be Zoro's. Kizaru might even be the main villain if a Vegapunk centric plotline comes along.
Eh I still think Kizaru is going to be dispatched to try and stop BB from taking whatever it is he Is currently after.
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I had this doubt too, but makes no sense for Fujitora to thank him for the food


But it could be either

-Fujitora thanked GB and praised the food cuz he was the one who cooked it

or

-Fujitora already knew GB was fasting to begin with, so he told him to try eating the food at Mariejoa because it was decent food.

My theory is that Greenbull's powers have something to do with him being a cook (maybe he perfoms photosynthesis?), thats why he fasts for so long, consequently these powers made him look for good food throughout his life, so that would light up his interest at eating again, forcing him to be an awesome cook looking for food good enough for him to eat.

It's like the opposite of what Sanji stands for, Sanji feeds the hungry, Sanji himself fasted for several days alongside Zeff, Sanji even missed eating rotten food after that event, he ate Cosette's food from the floor and praised it, on the other hand Greenbull chooses to fast by himself, even if there is pretty good right in front of him.

Greenbull is someone that would just be pleased by the cake Sanji baked to Big Mom, know what im saying?

Their fight could even end with Sanji making a dish for GB while he is on the ground basically defeated, Sanji feeds him and GB looks amazed by how good it is.
I kinda just saw it as like when in Japanese culture you say “Itadakimasu” which isn’t always used to thank the chef directly but the universe/establishment/etc.
 
#71
Shanks dueling with Mihawk has nothing to do with vying for the WSS spot. We know this already. One became a Yonko, the other is the WSS. The goals were not the same and if Shanks is Luffy's last opponent, being a swordsman frankly does not matter (to Luffy).
Shanks being a swordsman means that he will probably not be Luffy's last opponent.

If Mihawk is actually the WSS, then Luffy's final opponent would be weaker than Zoro's final opponent. I mean, I personally have no problem with that but there's no way it will happen
 
#72
Eh I still think Kizaru is going to be dispatched to try and stop BB from taking whatever it is he Is currently after.
Thats possible. I have a running theory going with Elbaf.

- Might be tied to Vegapunk due to Gigantification
- Thus also potentially tied to Kuma/SSG/Pacifists stuff
- Lastly tied to the Marine Science Division overall, which Sentoumaru is part of, who may involve Kizaru if this all gets blown up.

Long story short I think Elbaf is going to be pretty significant, and I can see Luffy taking on his first Admiral there before Akainu while others take on Kuma/Sentoumaru/SSG, but who knows tbh. They just don't scream "final war" to me (at least the Kuma stuff).

Don't know though and it's a farfetched theory
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Shanks being a swordsman means that he will probably not be Luffy's last opponent.

If Mihawk is actually the WSS, then Luffy's final opponent would be weaker than Zoro's final opponent. I mean, I personally have no problem with that but there's no way it will happen
Nope, Shanks didn't go for the WSS title guys. He's a Yonko, different story, not relevant to Luffy's progress. You don't know the upper limit of Shanks, because neither Mihawk or him have lost to each other.

There is more here that I don't want to get into, I've written very long posts about why I think Shanks is the endgame here, physically and thematically.
 
#73
Nope, Shanks didn't go for the WSS title guys. He's a Yonko, different story, not relevant to Luffy's progress. You don't know the upper limit of Shanks, because neither Mihawk or him have lost to each other.
So what you're saying is that Zoro defeating Mihawk wouldn't actually make him the strongest swordsman, making his dream and accomplishment meaningless?
 
#74
Thats possible. I have a running theory going with Elbaf.

- Might be tied to Vegapunk due to Gigantification
- Thus also potentially tied to Kuma/SSG/Pacifists stuff
- Lastly tied to the Marine Science Division overall, which Sentoumaru is part of, who may involve Kizaru if this all gets blown up.

Long story short I think Elbaf is going to be pretty significant, and I can see Luffy taking on his first Admiral there before Akainu while others take on Kuma/Sentoumaru/SSG, but who knows tbh. They just don't scream "final war" to me (at least the Kuma stuff).

Don't know though and it's a farfetched theory
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Nope, Shanks didn't go for the WSS title guys. He's a Yonko, different story, not relevant to Luffy's progress. You don't know the upper limit of Shanks, because neither Mihawk or him have lost to each other.

There is more here that I don't want to get into, I've written very long posts about why I think Shanks is the endgame here, physically and thematically.
I think similarly about Elbaf. I don’t think it’ll be directly connected to the emperors, rather I think it’ll be Vegapunks arc.

Honestly I’d love for characters who honestly don’t have much else to go in the story to show up here. I’m looking at:

1. Magellan
2. Enel
3. Sentomaru

Then sprinkle in SSG Information. The reason I’m looking at these three is:

1. Magellan stepped down from his position as Warden and Sengoku forced him to stay in the WG Ranks, as such him being Vegapunks current protector would work as it’s vital but shows Magellan’s shame in what happened at ID.
2. Honestly I think this is the best place for Enel to rejoin the world. He spent 2 years or so in space connected to a bunch of androids created by a genius of the old era. I think him working with Vegapunk to learn more about what he saw on the moon about his history and these androids would be a nice tie in. Plus Enels fruit kinda fits.
3. I just kinda like Sentomaru.
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So what you're saying is that Zoro defeating Mihawk wouldn't actually make him the strongest swordsman, making his dream and accomplishment meaningless?
It wouldn’t make it meaningless, as Shanks stopped trying to get the throne of WSS after he lost his sword arm.
 
#76
Uh. No lol?

I'm saying that has nothing to do with Shanks and his prowess as a fighter towards Luffy, who's not a swordsman.
that make 0 sense.... why did Mihakw clash with Shanks? for fun:seriously:? (Mihawk went after the strongest swordman in that era) Shanks maybe didnt aim for the WSS but the WSS is connected with Shanks whatever you like it or not.
Anyway is headcanon saying Shanks has no interest in WSS, why do you say shanks didnt want the WSS?
2 other Yonkos have titles, why not shanks? cuz he lost to Mihawk.
We shall see if Shanks will ever fight luffy cuz doesnt look good for shanks :suresure:
 
#77
Uh. No lol?

I'm saying that has nothing to do with Shanks and his prowess as a fighter towards Luffy, who's not a swordsman.
What does Luffy not being a swordsman have to do with it though? Unless you go the route of saying that Mihawk is only superior as a swordsman while Shanks somehow has some weird shit up his sleeve that makes him a superior fighter
 
#78
What does Luffy not being a swordsman have to do with it though? Unless you go the route of saying that Mihawk is only superior as a swordsman while Shanks somehow has some weird shit up his sleeve that makes him a superior fighter
cuz shanks is the hakiman......gosh :suresure: what a sad shit in 2022 claiming that shit.
 
#79
that make 0 sense.... why did Mihakw clash with Shanks? for fun:seriously:? (Mihawk went after the strongest swordman in that era) Shanks maybe didnt aim for the WSS but the WSS is connected with Shanks whatever you like it or not.
Anyway is headcanon saying Shanks has no interest in WSS, why do you say shanks didnt want the WSS?
2 other Yonkos have titles, why not shanks? cuz he lost to Mihawk.
We shall see if Shanks will ever fight luffy cuz doesnt look good for shanks :suresure:
What does Luffy not being a swordsman have to do with it though? Unless you go the route of saying that Mihawk is only superior as a swordsman while Shanks somehow has some weird shit up his sleeve that makes him a superior fighter

You guys think way to constrained on fighting style and titles. No Shanks was never confirmed to have lost to Mihawk ever. At all. Nada.

You can just clearly read this manga by virtue of how much more Shanks is important to the story over Mihawk. This is not a Shanks vs Mihawk statement, this is pure fact given by the manga on how important Shanks is and how much Oda hypes him up.

And I've made myself clear about this in the past, yes, I believe Luffy and Zoro's final opponents (Shanks and Mihawk) will be equal. All I'm gonna say about this. If that doesn't satisfy you then I have nothing else to say that will lol


Never claimed Shanks was some Hakiman. I claim that he and Mihawk are this world's top players. One is a Yonko, the other the WSS. Neither have lost to the other. Luffy fighting a swordsman has nothing to do with anything. Zoro fighting THE WSS is trancendental to his goals.

That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
#80
You guys think way to constrained on fighting style and titles. No Shanks was never confirmed to have lost to Mihawk ever. At all. Nada.

You can just clearly read this manga by virtue of how much more Shanks is important to the story over Mihawk. This is not a Shanks vs Mihawk statement, this is pure fact given by the manga on how important Shanks is and how much Oda hypes him up.

And I've made myself clear about this in the past, yes, I believe Luffy and Zoro's final opponents (Shanks and Mihawk) will be equal. All I'm gonna say about this. If that doesn't satisfy you then I have nothing else to say that will lol


Never claimed Shanks was some Hakiman. I claim that he and Mihawk are this world's top players. One is a Yonko, the other the WSS. Neither have lost to the other. Luffy fighting a swordsman has nothing to do with anything. Zoro fighting THE WSS is trancendental to his goals.

That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.
We shall see, cuz Black Beard is after Shanks or both will meet again and plot armor will make sure black beard will come on top so I am not sure about your statment. We shall wait and see. Importance?
Sure a movie call red if that will ever be canon :suresure:. Anyway I stop here this thread is about Sanji the cook
 
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