General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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I don't care enough about this to keep debating it mostly since you seem confused on what character development actually is, it was just to prove your double standards.
She was already a part of the raid deep inside the castle itself, then abandoned it in order to fight Perospero for her own reasons. She absolutely did not leave because she thought it would help the raid.
You do understand that implications =/= actual development, right?
Literally, all Carrot did on-panel was shout out Nekomamushi's name. There was no reaction beyond being surprised to see Nekomamushi showing up. After his defeat, the panel focus was still on Nekomamushi telling the others to watch out for the moon. Emotionally, Carrot was dropped immediately when Nekomamushi was informed about Perospero. The focus turned to Nekomamushi who was avenging his friend and subordinate.
This is all you can use to point to Carrot joining. I suggest you read Zou and Wano and actually acknowledge how little she has done and compare it to how Jinbe was treated in the arcs he was present for before he joined. And no, doing nothing is not subtle character development.
See point above how this is not actual development.
Brooke was constantly popping up to help the Straw Hats and was the key to figuring out the zombies' salt weakness. We also got his backstory, his dream, his isolation for 50 years and what the Straw Hats accepting him means to him, his shame at losing to Ryuma despite knowing all his moves and his resolve to take him down in their rematch, his gratitude to Franky and Zoro for helping him, his willingness in defending Luffy from Kuma, and his understanding in keeping Zoro's secret from Luffy. Brooke had more character in his introduction arc than Carrot got in her three arcs of existence.
Pot, meet kettle.
I remember you saying this months ago, and yet you still haven't produced said post.
Anime filler is not canon.
This is your biggest problem. You decided that this is somehow the goalpost that a character has to meet and that this is the only way despite it not being backed up at all in the story. No other character besides arguably Jinbe performed their role on the ship before they joined. Yet somehow you've decided that this is necessary now. You need to accept that if your supposed criterion does not match the usual standard for a crew member joining, it's probably not the keystone you think it is.
Considering Oda hasn't had anyone in the entire series listed as an official lookout, and has said being a lookout is a 4 person job, I think it's fairly safe to say that no one person is going to be recruited solely on being a lookout.
See point above that you deciding something means nothing. It's also just showing that multiple characters have been used as a scout or lookout because it is the easiest way to make side characters be useful for the crew.
Volume 83, Chapter 831.
The point that you seem to consistently ignore is that the Straw Hats are comprised of people who are either working towards being the best at their job (Zoro, Chopper, Franky) or are already highly specialized in their job (everyone else). Carrot falls into neither of these since we've had other characters, both in the crew and out, who have shown just as much or even more aptitude in being a lookout than Carrot has. Carrot's best hope for joining is as an apprentice, and I'm surprised more haven't taken up that position yet.
Oda has done that more than enough already.
See point above that you deciding something means nothing.
A) What? B) Something that can only be used once a month under certain conditions for only a few minutes is hardly the pinnacle for someone who would be needed outside during the full moon, like say, during the day.
Yes, Oda does things because he feels like it or thinks it might be fun or cool.[/QUOTE]
She was already a part of the raid deep inside the castle itself, then abandoned it in order to fight Perospero for her own reasons. She absolutely did not leave because she thought it would help the raid.
You do understand that implications =/= actual development, right?
Literally, all Carrot did on-panel was shout out Nekomamushi's name. There was no reaction beyond being surprised to see Nekomamushi showing up. After his defeat, the panel focus was still on Nekomamushi telling the others to watch out for the moon. Emotionally, Carrot was dropped immediately when Nekomamushi was informed about Perospero. The focus turned to Nekomamushi who was avenging his friend and subordinate.
This is all you can use to point to Carrot joining. I suggest you read Zou and Wano and actually acknowledge how little she has done and compare it to how Jinbe was treated in the arcs he was present for before he joined. And no, doing nothing is not subtle character development.
See point above how this is not actual development.
Brooke was constantly popping up to help the Straw Hats and was the key to figuring out the zombies' salt weakness. We also got his backstory, his dream, his isolation for 50 years and what the Straw Hats accepting him means to him, his shame at losing to Ryuma despite knowing all his moves and his resolve to take him down in their rematch, his gratitude to Franky and Zoro for helping him, his willingness in defending Luffy from Kuma, and his understanding in keeping Zoro's secret from Luffy. Brooke had more character in his introduction arc than Carrot got in her three arcs of existence.
Pot, meet kettle.
I remember you saying this months ago, and yet you still haven't produced said post.
Anime filler is not canon.
This is your biggest problem. You decided that this is somehow the goalpost that a character has to meet and that this is the only way despite it not being backed up at all in the story. No other character besides arguably Jinbe performed their role on the ship before they joined. Yet somehow you've decided that this is necessary now. You need to accept that if your supposed criterion does not match the usual standard for a crew member joining, it's probably not the keystone you think it is.
Considering Oda hasn't had anyone in the entire series listed as an official lookout, and has said being a lookout is a 4 person job, I think it's fairly safe to say that no one person is going to be recruited solely on being a lookout.
See point above that you deciding something means nothing. It's also just showing that multiple characters have been used as a scout or lookout because it is the easiest way to make side characters be useful for the crew.
Volume 83, Chapter 831.
The point that you seem to consistently ignore is that the Straw Hats are comprised of people who are either working towards being the best at their job (Zoro, Chopper, Franky) or are already highly specialized in their job (everyone else). Carrot falls into neither of these since we've had other characters, both in the crew and out, who have shown just as much or even more aptitude in being a lookout than Carrot has. Carrot's best hope for joining is as an apprentice, and I'm surprised more haven't taken up that position yet.
Oda has done that more than enough already.
See point above that you deciding something means nothing.
A) What? B) Something that can only be used once a month under certain conditions for only a few minutes is hardly the pinnacle for someone who would be needed outside during the full moon, like say, during the day.
Yes, Oda does things because he feels like it or thinks it might be fun or cool.[/QUOTE]
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It is really obvious that he created self-made criterias that favors Carrot. Even if the criterias can fit to other characters, he chooses to ignore/deny his own self-made criteria just to make Carrot “special”.
And yet until now there is still no explanations but mental gymnastics why his criterias only work for Carrot alone, while his self-made criterias could also work for other characters. Even if other characters have the exact same or more points fulfilling his criterias, he will deny it even more and moving goalposts. Trust me, he will deny that he denies his own words and criterias.
I mean, what’s new?
And yet until now there is still no explanations but mental gymnastics why his criterias only work for Carrot alone, while his self-made criterias could also work for other characters. Even if other characters have the exact same or more points fulfilling his criterias, he will deny it even more and moving goalposts. Trust me, he will deny that he denies his own words and criterias.
I mean, what’s new?
Well look at that. “Yamato knows too much” has already been debunked.
Waiting for anti Yamato to move goalposts & cope even harder
And if I may quote one of Carrot fans, he said: “Yamao is Momo’s bitch” because Yamato shares time with Momo.
now look at that. After 4 months not appearing, Carrot sticks to Neko & Wanda with a small, shared panel, almost not having any dialogue, and doing absolutely nothing. How ironic.
Carrot “bonded” with Straw Hats before Wano, only to do her own & back to Neko and Wanda. While Yamato bonds with Momo before leaving Wano for good and bonds with Straw Hats as an official Straw Hat later. Everyone who has high IQ can see the connection
Trust me, the more irrelevant Carrot is, the logic goes more like it’s to “surprise” the fans. Cope
Waiting for anti Yamato to move goalposts & cope even harder
And if I may quote one of Carrot fans, he said: “Yamao is Momo’s bitch” because Yamato shares time with Momo.
now look at that. After 4 months not appearing, Carrot sticks to Neko & Wanda with a small, shared panel, almost not having any dialogue, and doing absolutely nothing. How ironic.
Carrot “bonded” with Straw Hats before Wano, only to do her own & back to Neko and Wanda. While Yamato bonds with Momo before leaving Wano for good and bonds with Straw Hats as an official Straw Hat later. Everyone who has high IQ can see the connection
Trust me, the more irrelevant Carrot is, the logic goes more like it’s to “surprise” the fans. Cope
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This chapters indeed confirms that Yamato doesn't know sh*t. That's good. But it also completely negates any role she could have on the crew.. hehe
Plus that's not all that this chapter given us:
One setup on the relationshion between Momo and Yamato
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One setup on the future of Carrot in the war.
Let me explain first for the relation between Yamato and Momo:
Here you can clearly see that Momo is about to make the wrong descision, in a moment where Yamato is praising him. The thing is:
Yamato has the "click". This is exactly what we have been telling you all about when we say that Yamato will "go from wanting to go on an adventure to have her adventure at the sides of Momo."
Momo is implicitely telling us two things here : "I'm afraid that I can't protect the country alone" & "Can you guide me Yamato?"
As a locked up child .. Yamato is in fact the PERFECT person to make Momo understand why opening Wano's border is the best thing to do.. she is also the perfect personn to help Momo for the protection of this country.
This is the start of Yamato switch. It's all going according to plan
On Carrot side:
Oda didn't need to draw those two panels. In fact, he could have made Carrot and Neko appear in the main hall just fine. You have to understand that this was a setup chapter. And Oda choosed to give us two *simingly* unnecessary panels of Carrot and Neko going back in that specific chapter in the middle of others setups.
This is EXACTLY what Oda did before the fight of Carrot V Perospero. Here Oda is implying that Carrot won't only come back to the main hall.. but she will be facing something there.
Again.. It's all going according to plan
:cheers:
Plus that's not all that this chapter given us:
One setup on the relationshion between Momo and Yamato
&
One setup on the future of Carrot in the war.
Let me explain first for the relation between Yamato and Momo:
Here you can clearly see that Momo is about to make the wrong descision, in a moment where Yamato is praising him. The thing is:
Yamato has the "click". This is exactly what we have been telling you all about when we say that Yamato will "go from wanting to go on an adventure to have her adventure at the sides of Momo."
Momo is implicitely telling us two things here : "I'm afraid that I can't protect the country alone" & "Can you guide me Yamato?"
As a locked up child .. Yamato is in fact the PERFECT person to make Momo understand why opening Wano's border is the best thing to do.. she is also the perfect personn to help Momo for the protection of this country.
This is the start of Yamato switch. It's all going according to plan
On Carrot side:
Oda didn't need to draw those two panels. In fact, he could have made Carrot and Neko appear in the main hall just fine. You have to understand that this was a setup chapter. And Oda choosed to give us two *simingly* unnecessary panels of Carrot and Neko going back in that specific chapter in the middle of others setups.
This is EXACTLY what Oda did before the fight of Carrot V Perospero. Here Oda is implying that Carrot won't only come back to the main hall.. but she will be facing something there.
Again.. It's all going according to plan
:cheers:
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LMAO Yamato is pretty much locked in Onigashima for 20 years, knows nothing about the outside world but from Oden’s journal, have no clue about ruling a country, and Momo will ask Yamato to be his guide to rule Wano?
Meanwhile ignoring Zunisha coming to Wano so the basic bland Labbit can go back and eat grass. More mental gymnastic theories. Definitely nothing new.
Logic 404
Meanwhile ignoring Zunisha coming to Wano so the basic bland Labbit can go back and eat grass. More mental gymnastic theories. Definitely nothing new.
Logic 404
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LMAO Yamato is pretty much locked in Onigashima for 20 years, knows nothing about the outside world but from Oden’s journal, have no clue about ruling a country, and Momo will ask Yamato to be his guide to rule Wano?
More mental gymnastic theories. Definitely nothing new. Meanwhile ignoring Zunisha coming to Wano so the basic bland Labbit can go back and eat grass.
More mental gymnastic theories. Definitely nothing new. Meanwhile ignoring Zunisha coming to Wano so the basic bland Labbit can go back and eat grass.
I ship Momo X Yamato
LMAO Yamato is pretty much locked in Onigashima for 20 years, knows nothing about the outside world but from Oden’s journal, have no clue about ruling a country, and Momo will ask Yamato to be his guide to rule Wano?
Meanwhile ignoring Zunisha coming to Wano so the basic bland Labbit can go back and eat grass. More mental gymnastic theories. Definitely nothing new.
Logic 404
Meanwhile ignoring Zunisha coming to Wano so the basic bland Labbit can go back and eat grass. More mental gymnastic theories. Definitely nothing new.
Logic 404
Yamato is the best person to help Momo. This is undeniable and it's all according to plan
:cheers:
Yet another argument out the window. Been saying for months now that it makes 0 sense for Oden to endanger his family with his journal. Kin flat out said before that Oden kept secrets of his journey to protect them, but yea, he'll leave the world's secrets there so his family becomes a target.
Looks like the next big one is about to be flushed too. Momo's character arc has been all about growing up and facing his fears without help. Yamato was right there speechless when Luffy encouraged him that he has nothing to be afraid of in this world and people think she's gonna baby him by staying in Wano? She's already ditched him before despite him begging her to stay. She knows he must overcome his fears on his own and knows he can do it.
Looks like the next big one is about to be flushed too. Momo's character arc has been all about growing up and facing his fears without help. Yamato was right there speechless when Luffy encouraged him that he has nothing to be afraid of in this world and people think she's gonna baby him by staying in Wano? She's already ditched him before despite him begging her to stay. She knows he must overcome his fears on his own and knows he can do it.
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