Who will beat Kaido now?


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The liquid floats upward...can someone knowledgeable enough in physics or chemistry decipher it like what matter has those liquid but floating properties...
 
TBH most people asked the same question when Zoro came back to rooftop as how could 30 broken bones Zoro could recover fast enough to take on YC level threats and then Oda came up with the ass pull medicine. So the real question is not how will Oda bring Zoro back if ZKK were to happen, but do Oda want ZKK to happen?
Also i don't think most ZKK fans cares HOW Zoro will get up tbh
ZKK fans absolutely don't give a shit about how zoro gets up, but its very important.

If Oda wanted ZKK to happen, he didn't need to make the mink medicine wear off right after zoro beat king. He could have given zoro more time. But at this point, zoro has taken so much damage that it would just be bullshit for him to recover in any capacity this arc.

Especially when you have a whole host of powerful fighters coming to stall kaido while Luffy is on the cusp of awakening.
 
I've been saying this was bad writing ever since 1010



It would be fine if Oda didn't overplay his card. If Oda merely showed that Zoro took a lot of damage, like Luffy/Kid/Law, then him getting up would be perfectly fine. However that isn't what happened. What happened is that Zoro broke like half of his bones before the mink medicine doubled that damage. What happened is that chopper, a doctor, raised the possibility of zoro dying and then we see him face to face with the grim reaper.

Zoro having a miraculous recovery at this point would utterly shit on any tension that was created by him undertaking the amount of damage he took.
I like the 3v1 because you can create good tension in that fight itself

tbh Zoro dying would be good writing... lol and this is coming from a Zoro fan
 
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My reasoning for believing Zoro is the monster samurai comes directly from Chapter 1036. There is a panel that mentions “地獄” = Jigoku, which means hell but also means samurai, so Jigoku is used to refer to both hell and samurai.

地獄の” = Jigoku no has two meanings.
King of Hell
King of Samurai


My source
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...and-deuteragonist-of-wano.20398/#post-2287681


More evidence

[Zoro is matched to the world's greatest samurai, known as the god of blade.]


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So, when does the monster samurai show up:doffyou:

Perhaps the arc Ends with these two facing off against Kaido once more.
The monster samurai and joyboy face off against the world's strongest creature.


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We've been told that a long time ago

 
Go back to Yamato's words about the two of them.
It was very clear to her that Luffy was barely standing, after coming back from a ko to fight again, on the other hand she only started to think Kaido was STARTING to suffer fatigue from seeing his PASSIVE ABILITY weaken SLIGHTLY.

It's a matter of stamina for Luffy, he thrives on long fights, the dude fought Katakuri for 30 minutes with a drilled out stomach and despite being drugged, he was in a worse place here in terms of STAMINA after taking all of that internal damage from Kaido's attacks and his own "sloppy" adv CoC draining him to the point of being completely unable to move unconscious.

yes POTENTIALLY, he would--- beat the Kaido who didn't use his own awakening yet. Luffy thought one more OKG POTENTIALLY would knock Kaido out, 4 more definitely would have the POTENTIAL to knock him out.

To grant "fresh Zoro" feats of fighting Kaido equally, when he cut a distracted unserious Kaido who assumed he didn't have CoC and was focused on trying to kill Luffy as his neck twisted, is completely different.

Barely standing Luffy has proven he can fight on par with drunk Kaido 1vs1, don't try to pretend that isn't true. Note par doesn't necessarily mean 100% equal, but there was a not insignificant CHANCE... if there wasn't Kaido wouldn't be so mad about what happened....
"on the other hand she only started to think Kaido was STARTING to suffer fatigue from seeing his PASSIVE ABILITY weaken SLIGHTLY."
that's you reading your interpretation into it
fatigue and slightly were not mentioned . all she said was kaido's power is weakening.


and pls start reading the official translation , she didnt say he was on his last legs or imply he was barely standing.

its funny you bring this excuse up for luffy as if the reason he is on his last legs atm isn't because kaido has beat him multiple times now. on the other hand throughout the fight we saw other people hurt kaido .
luffy didn't have to take damage from the scabbards and from 5 supernovas . cut the bullshit





"yes POTENTIALLY, he would--- beat the Kaido who didn't use his own awakening yet. Luffy thought one more OKG POTENTIALLY would knock Kaido out, 4 more definitely would have the POTENTIAL to knock him out."

I reckon the same number of raging thunder bagua would knock luffy out before it takes out kaido


"To grant "fresh Zoro" feats of fighting Kaido equally, when he cut a distracted unserious Kaido who assumed he didn't have CoC and was focused on trying to kill Luffy as his neck twisted, is completely different."


wasn't distracted
you are full of shit
your logic is awfully similar to the people you argue against. just in favor of a different character.


"Barely standing Luffy has proven he can fight on par with drunk Kaido 1vs1, don't try to pretend that isn't true. Note par doesn't necessarily mean 100% equal, but there was a not insignificant CHANCE... if there wasn't Kaido wouldn't be so mad about what happened...."

but here's the thing
fighting on par with drunk kaido for a period of time isn't quite the same as defeating him you absolute melt.
 
the very fact that Luffy is getting awakening on top of everything just justifies that this fight will end in a 1v1 with Luffy winning definitively over kaido. Otherwise why give Luffy so many power ups?

G4 was already beating the shit out of kaido, with awakening, Luffy will probably stomp.
 
I've been saying this was bad writing ever since 1010



It would be fine if Oda didn't overplay his card. If Oda merely showed that Zoro took a lot of damage, like Luffy/Kid/Law, then him getting up would be perfectly fine. However that isn't what happened. What happened is that Zoro broke like half of his bones before the mink medicine doubled that damage. What happened is that chopper, a doctor, raised the possibility of zoro dying and then we see him face to face with the grim reaper.

Zoro having a miraculous recovery at this point would utterly shit on any tension that was created by him undertaking the amount of damage he took.
Luffy right now miraculously recovering in 1 chapter is trash tbh.

So Zoro doing so after several chapters would not be worst at this point in Wano.
 
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