Future Events Who Will Defeat King?
Those are not Ws, they are just posponed Ls.
Sanji will get the RS back, the Vinsmoke shit is actually Lunaria shit from Sora, and Black Maria might not be a spider since she seems to be rather a woman combined with a spider. The spider eyes are still there
Sanji will get the RS back, the Vinsmoke shit is actually Lunaria shit from Sora, and Black Maria might not be a spider since she seems to be rather a woman combined with a spider. The spider eyes are still there
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@Jackteo how tf is the exoskeleton Lunarian ?
Those are not Ws, they are just posponed Ls.
Sanji will get the RS back, the Vinsmoke shit is actually Lunaria shit from Sora, and Black Maria might not be a spider since she seems to be rather a woman combined with a spider. The spider eyes are still there
Sanji will get the RS back, the Vinsmoke shit is actually Lunaria shit from Sora, and Black Maria might not be a spider since she seems to be rather a woman combined with a spider. The spider eyes are still there
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I was 70% King vs Zoro and 30% Sanji vs King
"Law please nerf Doffy so I don't get low diffed"
"Dressrosa citizens help me run away from Doffy until I can recover from my pathetic Haki limit"
"Brulee help me run away from Katakuri so I don't get low diffed"
"Zoro please carry me away from Apoo who knocked me out in 1 hit"
"Zoro please save me from multiple Yonko attacks because I fainted 2 minutes after I started fighting"
"Kaido please throw me into the water instead of killing me"
"Yamato please weaken Kaido further because I can't beat him alone"
"Kaido please lift Onigashima up into the air, heavily nerfing yourself because I can't beat you at full power"
"Nika fruit please save me by reviving me after I died"
"Dressrosa citizens help me run away from Doffy until I can recover from my pathetic Haki limit"
"Brulee help me run away from Katakuri so I don't get low diffed"
"Zoro please carry me away from Apoo who knocked me out in 1 hit"
"Zoro please save me from multiple Yonko attacks because I fainted 2 minutes after I started fighting"
"Kaido please throw me into the water instead of killing me"
"Yamato please weaken Kaido further because I can't beat him alone"
"Kaido please lift Onigashima up into the air, heavily nerfing yourself because I can't beat you at full power"
"Nika fruit please save me by reviving me after I died"
Both Zori and Candy boys took massive L's in this thread.
I tried to warn Candy boys back in the day Sanji vs Queen was inevitable but they kept coming at me with the derp they both can fly and use fire reason without looking at the constant portrayal Oda sets up each arc. Luffy takes strongest. Zoro takes second strongest and Sanji takes third strongest.
However half the Zoricucks however took a huge L when they didn't want Zori to fight King because it meant his ass was getting kicked off the roof where the big boys were fighting.
In conclusion the Candy boys and Zoricucks have completely embarrassed themselves at least at one point this arc.
I tried to warn Candy boys back in the day Sanji vs Queen was inevitable but they kept coming at me with the derp they both can fly and use fire reason without looking at the constant portrayal Oda sets up each arc. Luffy takes strongest. Zoro takes second strongest and Sanji takes third strongest.
However half the Zoricucks however took a huge L when they didn't want Zori to fight King because it meant his ass was getting kicked off the roof where the big boys were fighting.
In conclusion the Candy boys and Zoricucks have completely embarrassed themselves at least at one point this arc.
All of the above is copium to distract from the fact that Zoro can't deal with high flying enemies by himself, which is what my direct examples proved. You mentioning tangential unrelated plot points makes you look very sad lol.
A massively nerfed (as per Yamato's own words) Luffy just fought a yonko 1vs1, and Kaidou apologized to Luffy for having an unfair advantage over him from outside help, Zoro is hanging off of Franky's shoulders after fighting the weakest YC1.
A massively nerfed (as per Yamato's own words) Luffy just fought a yonko 1vs1, and Kaidou apologized to Luffy for having an unfair advantage over him from outside help, Zoro is hanging off of Franky's shoulders after fighting the weakest YC1.
All of the above copium is to distract from the fact that Luffy can’t deal with any opponent by himself and needs an entire village of people to save him multiple times through the fight and for his opponent to be affected by PIS and throw him off islands after fodderizing him instead of just killing him.
Luffy fights characters well beyond what Zoro could, and Kaidou and Katakuri both admitted the outside interference to the fight was on their side and was unfair. But you ignore the manga like a dumbass, so no surprise you didn't notice that.
Zoro needed Usopp to reach the dragon, Zoro needed brownbeard to even REACH Pica, Law to even reach Kaido while flying (every other R5, even Killer, managed without Law). This is directly related to mobility issues that should have been a factor vs King, but King acted full retard and didn't even use his flight at all.
Zoro also needed Marco to soften up King (far more so than Yamato or the scrubbards softened up Kaido) and was brought to full health/stamina with magical mink sauce for the time limit it had.
Kaido didn't throw Luffy off the island, he fell.
There is a certain level of PIS in all fights from all characters, Luffy downed Kaido many times and rather than punch him in the head repeatedly with internal destruction or rip out his eyeballs he would let him get back up, but actively not using flight properly for the entirity of the fight when your opponent has only a few minutes of stamina was a clown show.
Zoro needed Usopp to reach the dragon, Zoro needed brownbeard to even REACH Pica, Law to even reach Kaido while flying (every other R5, even Killer, managed without Law). This is directly related to mobility issues that should have been a factor vs King, but King acted full retard and didn't even use his flight at all.
Zoro also needed Marco to soften up King (far more so than Yamato or the scrubbards softened up Kaido) and was brought to full health/stamina with magical mink sauce for the time limit it had.
Kaido didn't throw Luffy off the island, he fell.
There is a certain level of PIS in all fights from all characters, Luffy downed Kaido many times and rather than punch him in the head repeatedly with internal destruction or rip out his eyeballs he would let him get back up, but actively not using flight properly for the entirity of the fight when your opponent has only a few minutes of stamina was a clown show.
Kaido and Katakuri only benefitted from the interference way after Luffy got unfair advantages like running away from the mirror world because of his pathetic haki limit and jumping kaido after a 14 person gauntlet + him lifting an entire island
None of the nonsense you’re spouting changes the fact that every fight condom had was a huge group effort and he could have never won 1v1
To reiterate:
"Law please nerf Doffy so I don't get low diffed"
"Dressrosa citizens help me run away from Doffy until I can recover from my pathetic Haki limit"
"Brulee help me run away from Katakuri so I don't get low diffed"
"Zoro please carry me away from Apoo who knocked me out in 1 hit"
"Zoro please save me from multiple Yonko attacks because I fainted 2 minutes after I started fighting"
"Kaido please throw me into the water instead of killing me"
"Yamato please weaken Kaido further because I can't beat him alone"
"Kaido please lift Onigashima up into the air, heavily nerfing yourself because I can't beat you at full power"
"Nika fruit please save me by reviving me after I died"
Will this loser ever get a real 1v1 by EOS?
None of the nonsense you’re spouting changes the fact that every fight condom had was a huge group effort and he could have never won 1v1
To reiterate:
"Law please nerf Doffy so I don't get low diffed"
"Dressrosa citizens help me run away from Doffy until I can recover from my pathetic Haki limit"
"Brulee help me run away from Katakuri so I don't get low diffed"
"Zoro please carry me away from Apoo who knocked me out in 1 hit"
"Zoro please save me from multiple Yonko attacks because I fainted 2 minutes after I started fighting"
"Kaido please throw me into the water instead of killing me"
"Yamato please weaken Kaido further because I can't beat him alone"
"Kaido please lift Onigashima up into the air, heavily nerfing yourself because I can't beat you at full power"
"Nika fruit please save me by reviving me after I died"
Will this loser ever get a real 1v1 by EOS?
If you think the scabbards performing a 0 damage attack on Kaido that he instantly regenerated from is more of a nerf than Luffy eating Kaido's most powerful hybrid attack unguarded then you have severe mental issues, log off, go see a doctor.
Kaidou and Katakuri's own words trump your nonsense.
If lifting the island was a nerf Kaidou could have dropped it any time he wanted, it was a nerf to Luffy though, who had to hold back his island destroying punch until Momo could move the island.
Because you need to be spoonfed:
Kaidou and Katakuri's own words trump your nonsense.
If lifting the island was a nerf Kaidou could have dropped it any time he wanted, it was a nerf to Luffy though, who had to hold back his island destroying punch until Momo could move the island.
Because you need to be spoonfed:
- Luffy directly overpowered a stitched up (non nerfed) Doflamingo using their finishers.
- Time limit drama was PIS to show off the weakness of G4 and ramp up the tensions of the arc
- Luffy kidnapped Brulee, and Katakuri was pissed, this was lucky, but not any more unfair than being trapped in a mirror world to begin with.
- Luffy and Zoro were trying to save stamina to fight Kaidou, you admit Luffy was KO'd and pre nerfed going into the R5 fight.
- G4 time limit is in canon over 10 minutes, no matter how it is portrayed.
- Luffy fell he wasn't thrown, I already explained this. Either case should be a death sentence and would have been without Luffy's own power (VoAT)
- Yamato stalled Kaidou and got wrecked, and afterwards Yamato canonically said that Luffy was barely standing and so more nerfed than Kaidou going into that fight.
- Kaidou could have dropped it any time, never mentioned this as an issue, and mentioned other things as unfair issues in his favor.
- Enel reviving using his power was not unfair, Kaidou having an awakened zoan and the freakish regeneration rate that goes along iwth that was not unfair it is part of his powers. Zoro taking external bullshit mink medicine that wasn't part of his powers however...
Scabbards weren’t the only people in that gauntlet. And their attack drew more blood from Kaido than any Luffy attack ever. Luffy taking a normal Kaido attack unguarded is no different than Luffy jumping Kaido with 4 other people at the same time. Kaido couldn’t have just stopped lifting the island because he wanted to drop it on the Flower Capital, Luffy didn’t hold back shit.
1. Doffy stitching up his organs was a temporary band-aid, it didn’t fully heal him at all. He was much weaker after Law’s Gamma Knife than before. And even with that, Luffy still needed the townspeople to help him run away from Doffy like a little bitch.
2. Luffy being a pathetic weakling isn’t PIS just because it destroys your headcanon, it’s reality.
3. Luffy kidnapping Brulee doesn’t change that he needed outside help because he’s a loser. The Mirror World is a neutral setting, nothing unfair about it.
4. Luffy trying to save stamina doesn’t change the fact that Apoo knocked him out and could have killed him if not for Zoro.
5. And? He still ran out without doing shit and needed the rest of the SN to carry his ass.
6. Doesn’t change the fact that Kaido could have easily chopped his head off which he even regrets not doing. So again Luffy has PIS to thank.
7. Yamato said Kaido’s power was weakening, all she said about Luffy was him putting the everything on his back. I’m not interested in your nonsensical fan translations, Viz > you.
8. Kaido wanted to drop the island on the Flower Capital, so no he couldn’t have dropped the island at any time without failing to achieve what he wanted to do.
9. Those were well established and made sense as part of the character’s powers. Oda realized he made Luffy too weak and had to come up with a BS way to bring Luffy back to life after he died. Zoro taking mink medicine is irrelevant to the conversation because that was to recover from damage inflicted to him by a combined Yonko attack that would have vaporized Luffy who was too slow to react to it.
So again, will Luffy ever get a real 1v1 by EOS?
1. Doffy stitching up his organs was a temporary band-aid, it didn’t fully heal him at all. He was much weaker after Law’s Gamma Knife than before. And even with that, Luffy still needed the townspeople to help him run away from Doffy like a little bitch.
2. Luffy being a pathetic weakling isn’t PIS just because it destroys your headcanon, it’s reality.
3. Luffy kidnapping Brulee doesn’t change that he needed outside help because he’s a loser. The Mirror World is a neutral setting, nothing unfair about it.
4. Luffy trying to save stamina doesn’t change the fact that Apoo knocked him out and could have killed him if not for Zoro.
5. And? He still ran out without doing shit and needed the rest of the SN to carry his ass.
6. Doesn’t change the fact that Kaido could have easily chopped his head off which he even regrets not doing. So again Luffy has PIS to thank.
7. Yamato said Kaido’s power was weakening, all she said about Luffy was him putting the everything on his back. I’m not interested in your nonsensical fan translations, Viz > you.
8. Kaido wanted to drop the island on the Flower Capital, so no he couldn’t have dropped the island at any time without failing to achieve what he wanted to do.
9. Those were well established and made sense as part of the character’s powers. Oda realized he made Luffy too weak and had to come up with a BS way to bring Luffy back to life after he died. Zoro taking mink medicine is irrelevant to the conversation because that was to recover from damage inflicted to him by a combined Yonko attack that would have vaporized Luffy who was too slow to react to it.
So again, will Luffy ever get a real 1v1 by EOS?
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Muh 14 people becomes 6 people, 1 of which was Luffy. The scrubbards were literally nothing to Kaido, Killer was literally nothing to Kaido, unawakened Kid and Law were barely more than nothing to Kaido, Asura did a small amount of legit damage, but failed to put Kaido on his back even temporarily and the wound almost instantly closed up.
The R5 were dooming that there attacks were doing nothing to Kaido while Luffy smiled with confidence. Despite Luffy doing more damage than anyone else pre adv CoC he said his attacks were too shallow after learning it, indicating that everyone elses attacks were little more than dogshit to Kaido.
Yamato did not do 10% of Kaido's health in damage against him, Luffy on the other hand took more than 10% of his health and stamina from being knocked out twice before becoming the skysplitter he currently is.
The R5 were dooming that there attacks were doing nothing to Kaido while Luffy smiled with confidence. Despite Luffy doing more damage than anyone else pre adv CoC he said his attacks were too shallow after learning it, indicating that everyone elses attacks were little more than dogshit to Kaido.
Yamato did not do 10% of Kaido's health in damage against him, Luffy on the other hand took more than 10% of his health and stamina from being knocked out twice before becoming the skysplitter he currently is.
- It made him unimpeded by it in terms of combat output. Re-read the fucking fight, he goes from matching G2 to upping his game and outclassing it. G4 would outclass Doflamingo either way, if PIS for not using KKG wasn't in place.
- He's a yonko level fighter, calling him weak is calling every other character aside from BB and Imu weak.
- He was unable to hit Katakuri and didn't understand why, rather than Katakuri turn his brain off and stop using his skills so Luffy could win, like how Oda treated King, he had Luffy do a tactical retreat to recharge his haki. Trying to leverage this against Luffy makes you look pathetic.
- He was blindsided by a sneak attack while he was trying to run somewhere else, that is like Big Mom getting kicked off the waterfall or clowned by Brook. Shanks had his arm bitten by a seaking, he's soooo weak.... Roger was stabbed by blades and he died sooo weak... Zoro nearly died from a nerfed pleasure WHILE SERIOUS lol.
- Kidd said it was worth it for the damage it did to Kaidou, considering the rest of them were down and Luffy was staring down two yonko... Luffy took 90% of the agro in the fight anyway letting them get free sneak attacks.
- Zoro would be dead if Law didn't shambles him away multiple times, if he didn't get saved by Franky a split second before he fell to his death etc. Luffy fell off the island, that was out of Kaidou's narrative control due to PIS, the same way Luffy couldn't reach the rooftop while the scabbards were fighting but could fly up Onigashima in an instant later with G4, the idea that the scabbards would pointlessly fight against Kaidou rather than characters their own level, the idea that Law would fuck around looking for the poneglyph as the scabbards almost die. that they let Momo get captured despite being faster than Kanjuro etc. I can point out PIS 1000s of times in OP. Luffy going all out that early in the fight in G4 was PIS considering G2 moves were working and then Law not shamblesing him away were two specific instances relating to the point you are trying to make.
- Cringe, girigiri de tatteru= barely standing, you can confirm yourself without relying on Liz. It's like you didn't read WCI, or any other Luffy fight before in your life, fucking stupid behaviour.
- He could drop it and pick it back up after killing everyone... very easily if it was impacting his combat ability. Even at the end he didn't relinquish the flames due to fatigue or to magically power up his finisher, they were saturated with water.
- "BS way to bring Luffy back to life after he died" So Oda writes Luffy's hearbeat stopping and it starting in the same chapter but it wasn't planned.. what the fuck are you smoking?
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