Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Lor D. Coast]

Do you think than croco couldn't defeat Sanjino brothers and Caesor?. Yes me too

None of the Vinsmoke have haki, how are they beating a logia, Croco in this case without haki or water?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Everything suggests that Killer got a bounty raise of less than 300mil.
Usopp's bounty should be above Killer's right now.

nah, Killer is Kid’s right hand, making him Zoro’s “rival”, so Oda is going to treat him specially.

Imo anything less than 600 mil wouldn’t make sense. Most Tobi roppo wouldn’t have been able to stomp hawkins as well as killer did before he pulled hostages.

 

[zzShinichi]

You ignore my messages

I try to keep away from this thread as much as possible to keep my toxicity level low

 

[Strawhats Bible]

Zoro could hurt Kaido without releasing Enma; that's why Kaido was impressed by Zoro's Onigiri. Zoro wanted to release Enma to have more impact.

You guys love to make shit up lol
Reminder this was a double attack along with Killer lmao

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

wb still had his title in marineford, do you think he was the actual world strongest. or do you think kaido is stronger than the final villain (if he/she does not have a power boost)

Think the author wanted to portray him as someone that legitimately was the strongest but hindered him.

am confident at the very least bb is growing in the same way luffy is growing so him being stronger than kaido isnt out of the question .

 

[Strawhats Bible]

I still think he’d be able to beat Kaido extreme diff in all fairness

He has 0 chance of beating Kaido on those conditions, wtf lol

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

I still think he’d be able to beat Kaido extreme diff in all fairness

Very debatable.

One solid clean hit of WB and Kaido will be fine. one solid clean hit of Kaido and Whitebeard will 80% dead.

Note that WB don't get his nakama revenge boost.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

None of the Vinsmoke have haki, how are they beating a logia, Croco in this case without haki or water?

it was rethoric question. Of course anyone is too stupid (nudle left the forum) to think that. Croc low diff. He is mihawk right hand

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

@The Bible of Kurozumis the strawhat bible?

 

[BleakAsh]

It really doesn't matter whether their fight was a decade ago or a day ago because both Mihawk & Shanks were fighting other people after they stopped duelling. The Marines definitely know well enough to make a statement about it, just like how Greenbull said it for Kaido & Sengoku told it for WB.

And even then, on a meta lvl this is direct exposition drop from Oda on the topic about Mihawk & Shanks's PL.

it does matter or any significant battles would be hinted towards..! and during that decade who did Mihawk fight as a Warlord... he definitely didn't fight any Yonko's or even admirals as he was a Shichibukai.. are we talking about Yc's? are just going assume that he has confrontations with Yonko's and that weren't even recalled during Yonko saga? i mean to our knowledge he didn't even fight against Vista in that decade long time

Your claims goes against your stance itself...

and to say marines would go off of other fights that are likely not swords fights to gauge Mihawk's swordsmanship against Shanks which they also have Likely no account of.. is also a massive stretch and tbh just plain ridiculous.

Also with that route of thought shouldn't Shanks be over Mihawk coz

Shank clashed with 2 of the strongest Pirates in the NW.. made one retreat on top of that.

Its obvious that Marines are going off of retrospective duels and the fact that Shanks lost an arm given nothing of Shanks loosing against Mihawk was ever stated..


all in all,

- your argument proves the contrary to be the case

- Mihawk didn't fight anyone notable to really be mentioned in the story in that decade

- Shanks then isn't the Shanks now and Marines are basing things not on confrontations Mihawk and Shanks had but rather their duels a decade ago

- Marines wouldn't logically base their conclusion over the fight Mihawk and Shanks had in the decade... coz that would be even more inaccurate.. rather they would chose to go off of duels that were more accurate and its convenient to assume Shanks is less skilled with one arm and the fact that Mihawk is labeled the WSS for a reason.

- basing the conclusion of a hypothetical battle on dodgy and outdated accounts of duels isn't the least accurate

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Crocodile is the coolest of the original shichibukai

 

[Roronoa-sama]

once the shichibukai system was abolished the navy sent a fleet after him , he can't live a peaceful life any more he has to fight back and that's why he joined the cross guild

why do you think crocodile called mihawk of all people ?

+ he doesn't care about being an emperor that's why he let buggy get all the glory

and moreover croco thought Mihawk like yonko

 

[Kawatsuki]

Zoro could hurt Kaido without releasing Enma; that's why Kaido was impressed by Zoro's Onigiri. Zoro wanted to release Enma to have more impact.

”need to Release more” implies he used Emma in that attack lol

Zoro fans are always skewing facts and can’t ever admit fault, as you can’t admit on panel you were wrong about the floor being wood. Biggest clown . 🤡

 

[Strawhats Bible]

@The Bible of Kurozumis the strawhat bible?

Yeah I will change my name back lmao

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Very debatable.

One solid clean hit of WB and Kaido will be fine. one solid clean hit of Kaido and Whitebeard will 80% dead.

Note that WB don't get his nakama revenge boost.

Whitebeard took many solid hits including getting half his face blown off by Akainu as well as getting stabbed clean through the stomach.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Sup WG, how's it goi--

@Paperchampion23 What do you think we’re getting next week?

1. SH focused slice of life / arriving at new island chapter?
2. Hancock-focused chapter?
3. Weevil-focused chapter?
4. Blackbeard focused chapter?
5. Direct continuation of Rev story at the end of this chapter?

I’m guessing a little bit of 5 and one of 2, 3, or 4. Hope Oda gives one chapter updates for all these factions

Basically the same^^

 

[HA001]

Very debatable.

One solid clean hit of WB and Kaido will be fine. one solid clean hit of Kaido and Whitebeard will 80% dead.

Note that WB don't get his nakama revenge boost.

Fine my ass. One solid hit from oden had him one blow from death.

 

[Dragon777]

He would have had to have a crazy powerup. The Alabasta version of Crocodile would likely get disposed by Pekoms in one hit just like Caribou

It was a completely different manga in terms of power levels. Croco was already "corrected" in MF, now is probably even stronger than that.

Also, Croco's portrayal was always this great: someone world-famous, that has challenged WB in the past, that Aokiji himself (and not Pekoms) was going to take care of.
In all honesty, it's only now that his bounty and possibly strength match his portrayal.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

Whitebeard took many solid hits including getting half his face blown off by Akainu as well as getting stabbed clean through the stomach.

He was already a dead man walking after Akainus hit on his stomach, he continued on purely will power to save his son as shown in the manga.

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

A sword profession practiced with bamboo swords and taught in dojos by professionals. Alsoknown as the art of the sword and especially common in japan.

ok so you are using the real world definition of Kendo wich doesn't apply to ANYONE in One Piece except kid Zoro